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Will you be selling avalon modules?
The USD price doesn't appear yet 
I don't know about you but if I were them, I'd be piecing together a board for testing if I had gotten chips and a pcb in hand. I know that he was asking BKK about specific parts and what was available in quantity. Since they will be the first proxy testing for BKK's design, they have pledged to share all data with him to speed the completion of the project. The sooner the Klondike board is finished the sooner we can all hash with it.
The USD price doesn't appear yet
So how many here are on the short list for Tuesday?
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I see your view, but people could already do massive purchases of ASIC's that are in people's hands (with enough money) and GPU's to take a significant portion of the hash rate as it is.
It seems like your post is implying that there should be a maximum of these chips each person can buy?
Not really, I guess the point i was trying to make is: it makes no difference to TH whether they sell 12 boards to 100 people or 100 boards to 12 people, either way they will be selling. But to you or I there is a big difference in what they choose to do. Maybe you have 10k laying around but I dont, nor would I have the resources to power a farm, but keeping in the spirit of the idea of BitCoin is what I was suggesting. But they will do what they wish.
Sorry, if this question has already been answered, but I'm wondering why the body of your TerraHash DX large is so damn expensive?
15BTC (currently 1500$) for a case, a psu and some fans/brackets, etc.? I'm really interested in buying one of those miners, but common..
This stuff shouldn't cost more than 3BTC.
Ya I thought it was way too expensive at first, but then I started thinking about it.15BTC (currently 1500$) for a case, a psu and some fans/brackets, etc.? I'm really interested in buying one of those miners, but common..
This stuff shouldn't cost more than 3BTC.
It is expensive, but you couldn't buy even just the PSU for 3BTC. 10 chips will use ~1300W, so you're looking at a 1.5-1.6kW PSU, preferably something 80Plus Gold or better to reduce heat and consumption. Those criteria really narrow down your list of potential PSUs, and none of them are cheap. Then you've got half a dozen fans (120mm? 140mm?), which is easily another 1BTC.
Then remember that the whole thing is a custom designed, custom built enclosure, which prolly isn't cheap. You can't just log onto Newegg or eBay and pick one up for $50. I have no idea what it even costs then to make, with or without the brackets inside.
And then remember that they are selling these for a profit, which is why they do all of this to begin with. It's still on the high side, but nothing absurd.
Sorry, if this question has already been answered, but I'm wondering why the body of your TerraHash DX large is so damn expensive?
15BTC (currently 1500$) for a case, a psu and some fans/brackets, etc.? I'm really interested in buying one of those miners, but common..
This stuff shouldn't cost more than 3BTC.
15BTC (currently 1500$) for a case, a psu and some fans/brackets, etc.? I'm really interested in buying one of those miners, but common..
This stuff shouldn't cost more than 3BTC.
so how much is this board, is it 1.99 or 6.99 BTC? and can this run stand-alone without the
chassis?
http://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/
chassis?
http://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/
It depends if you provide the Avalon chips it's 1,99.
Otherwise your paying for the chips also.
so how much is this board, is it 1.99 or 6.99 BTC? and can this run stand-alone without the
chassis?
http://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/
chassis?
http://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/
Am I blind, or did they not announce yet when they are actually shipping the products?
"Q. When do you start shipping?
A. The boards for which we provide the Avalon ASICs, will start shipping around late July. We have already ordered 20,000 Avalon chips, and will order more in the coming days. As soon as we start receiving those chips, we will start shipping out our orders.
For assembly services, once we receive the chips from you, we will be able to ship out the finished boards in less than 2 weeks."
@TerraHash
Any updates on how the board bring up process is going ?
Also your thoughts on purchase quantity limits since demand will most likely exceed supply ?
Any updates on how the board bring up process is going ?
Also your thoughts on purchase quantity limits since demand will most likely exceed supply ?
Am I blind, or did they not announce yet when they are actually shipping the products?
So how many here are on the short list for Tuesday?
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I see your view, but people could already do massive purchases of ASIC's that are in people's hands (with enough money) and GPU's to take a significant portion of the hash rate as it is.
It seems like your post is implying that there should be a maximum of these chips each person can buy?
As of Today, June 14th it does not appear that BkkCoins has any chips as in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.751
Someone is sending him 17 sample chips.
BkkCoins designed these boards no?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.751
Someone is sending him 17 sample chips.
BkkCoins designed these boards no?
So how many here are on the short list for Tuesday?
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
20,000 chips actually, but yeah short list
I have exactly 7BTC waiting for 64 board, and that news about usd payment are damn bad to me. I invested a lot (for me), and now, if they convert the price, I will have very hard time to buy anything... Please stick with the original plan. Many people are not prepared to changes.
WTS account registered 30th may 
WTS account registered on the day website was opened.
WTS account registered 30th may
and so it begins. ugh.
WTS account registered 30th may
So how many here are on the short list for Tuesday?
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
Actually I doubt the prices will be quite that bad. They are fixing prices in USD, sure, but there's no reason to assume they're going to jack the prices too much.
for the K64 they were going 6.99BTC when BTC was ~125-130, so I'm gonna say around 950 for the K64, give or take. That's increasing the price slightly from what the conversion would have been, to compensate for the increased risk of accepting paypal and possibly dealing with chargebacks
As for how many... I'm personally betting that the site goes down in flames and the server running it is discovered to have become a puddle of molten slag on the floor lol
So how many here are on the short list for Tuesday?
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
I figure: 10,000 chips divided by 16 per K16 Board, is 625 small boards or 156 large boards.
We don't yet know the USD they are will be asking but we should assume at least 100% mark-up on the chip price (so as to be able to buy twice as many chips) plus the cost of the board and MOB, plus the operating costs of their SMT line, plus paying themselves. So maybe the wiser here can throw some more numbers at this and come up with a guesstimate of what they need to ask for their products.
I wonder if there will be/should be a maximum # per customer per round? It would keep in the spirit of "decentralized" and "P2P" I think. I am sure that there are many here with the funds ready to buy out the lot, I would hate to see that happen. I mean we are talking about 2,820Gh/s lets not lose sight of the responsibility of such power. That is almost 2% of today's network speed.
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