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This is all I want to know, have been waiting since Friday just to hear a yes/no.  This is going to be critical info so I hope we can find out today.

Go do that.

I don't read the 28 pages.

Can somebody tell me why is Terrahash not a scam?


And when will be possible to order some devices?

How many days will be needed to ship the device from you location to germany?

terrahash, do the modular boards ship with heatsinks?

I have a lot of power supplies, fans, and crate cases that I can easily use with these boards, but coming up with a custom heatsink to fit the boards could be difficult.

According to their website here:  http://terrahash.com/blog/

They believe they are getting their chips in mid July, so we would expect to see an order for chips dated during the first week of April for a July 15th delivery.

Look forward to the proof of the chip order today!

Sorry but that's not true, price of Asic chips it's the same price than 1 month ago 760 Bitcoins for 10,000 chips. Why we must pay now with dollars?, I want to pay with bitcoins... today 1 Bitcoin = 100$ tomorrow maybe 1 Bitcoin 150$ or 99$ but 10,000 Avalon asic chips have same price 760 Bitcoins.

If they want to buy more Avalon chips they must pay with bitcoins not dollars...

That's true, I didn't stop and do the math, their cost of chips would be about $510 for a 64 board and $128 on the 16 board.

The cost seems not possible since 64 chips would cost more than that
While the final cost did seems a little more than expected 

do the boards come with a heatsink?

Well if $250 is your cost for a 18Gh unit perhaps $900 is a bit steep?

Since a ready to run unit (including cooling and power) from others costs about $50 a GH
you may want to consider $40 a GH for your units   $180 for 4.5gh,  $720 for 18GH

I'd consider paying more if you could guarantee a delivery date of a working unit

Today, Monday 17 June 2013:

- Price up +28%
- No bitcoin payment, now dollars.
- Not provide evidence you have ordered chips and their expected arrival date.
- Not tested klondike PCB.

but of course, you will start taking orders tomorrow Tuesday at 9:00 am Pacific Standard Time...  

$55 a GH without a power supply without heatsinks (4.5gh)

and $50 a GH for the 18Gh unit just makes it too expensive.

You would have to be able to deliver before BFL which gives you 5Gh for the same money and you get power supply and cooling.

I believe K16 price is justified, and K64 price is actually reasonable too. However, with the DX Large with 10 K64 boards priced at $10,500, you're not only not offering any discount whatsoever for purchasing 10 K64s, you're charging $1500 on top of it for the case. There's no consideration for the economy of scale; the DX Large price is simply not sustainable and I don't know that the ROI is there b/c it drives up the cost of each board by more than one BTC. Please reconsider your price for this item.

How much k64 will cost in BTC now?

this ratio must be maintained so we can make profit in 2 months
5BTC/10GHS/10M difficulty

the goal is to make 3x ROI with an asic
1xROI for your investment
2xROI for the investment of your next machine, to catch up the difficulty
3xROI to make your profit

so right now a 18 GHS should cost 5 at max

so now the price in USD 18 GH/sec Modular board (Klondike 64) $ 900.00

have you taken in consideration, that when your products will be available they will not be worth it, at current price, because of difficulty?

example the 18GH unit, with 36M difficulty, should not cost more than 2.5 btc

No you're not *simply* requesting information and pointing out inconsistencies.  What you are doing is purposely kicking up sh*t and making accusations with absolutely no proof.
Yes, you can check whatever you want in ebay preferences.  Yes you can make your computer look like it's coming from anywhere.  And none of that in any way proves that it is Terrahash.  Yet you state that it doesn't exonerate him.  Last time I checked, it was supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until you prove yourself innocent just because one person decided to start throwing out wild accusations.


How many people are on ebay?  How many people have been selling preorders on ebay?  It could be any one of them.  There's nothing to suggest that it is Terrahash, other than *your* assumption and accusation that it is.
"This order will be placed (and paid for) on Tuesday June 18th, 9AM PST.  Ordering does not open to the public until 24 hours after this time, so this is a special place in line and will be one of the first orders shipped.  Your order will ship via Fedex Overnight, insured, with a tracking number."

This statement alone actually suggests that it is someone who intends to place a preorder and resell it for a profit.  Just like all the people who bought in on group buys of chips or the USB block erupter and resold them on eBay for profit.  BTC mining right now is rife with people who have no interest in mining themselves and are only buying hardware because they've seen how much people desperate for hardware will pay.  They've seen some of the miner auctions on ebay hit $30,000 and they're looking to make a quick buck.  Many more people are buying more hardware than they need and reselling the surplus for profit to make back their money and get their hardware effectively cheap or free.

Now, until you actually have something substatial that suggests the auction is terrahash, why don't you take your unfounded allegations and keep them to yourself.

Agreed. If it's not your listing, I think you should report it to EBay.

If nothing else, they have stolen your photos of the board. That alone should get the listing pulled, or at least the photos pulled. Plus the listing is borderline misleading, since the design isn't yet proven (technically speaking - I have no doubt it will ultimately work.)

If I were you I'd try and start policing ebay a bit maybe. The listing there COULD perhaps influence people to think badly of Terrahash themselves.

Is Pay Pal going to be ready by Tuesday?