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It was a setup. You could have at least replied and said that it is not doable, but now we know you are unprofessional. See, I like playing these games with companies to see for myself how they react, and now I know for sure I don't want get my friends involved who could have split the cost with me because they are very interested in mining.  

Lol, it's truly sad that you would even go as far as scapegoating me of all people, to prove a point. That says a whole lot about you. I'm really one of the least relevant people to ever post on these forums. You have made a huge joke of yourself.

By the way, the proper way to "not honor" a request is to politely reject it, rather than be like BFL and not respond. See you need to be like KnC and take your scams to the next level, and hire someone to dedicate their time to responses. The scam game is evolving dude, you're falling behind, taking cheap shots like you do will not keep you afloat.

I invite everyone to clearly read through all my posts. You will soon discover I am more than what I appear to be at the surface in a single thread. I am Bitcoins psychological warfare horse, and I do it for non-profit.

When the chips get shipped, it will be obviously who is blowing smoke and who has hashing miners.  Everyone and their dog will be releasing video of their chips and their assembly process.

I think it is a bit early to get worried.

Don't let the douche that wanted free gear to cloud your judgement.

Terrahash wishes to earn our business.
We are supposed to trust folks that can not find it worthwhile to answer some rather benign questions about the business?

Millions of Terrahashes per day are at stake.

They claim to have an Avalon chip order in direct.
That claim is how old, a month? Longer?

What if they do NOT have one?
How many weeks behind would they be?
How many weeks behind are potential miners purchased through TERRAHASH?
(if they happen to be less than honest)

Let me add my opinion. There's is totaly nothing, that we customers should care about. They do not take any money in preorders and they just anounce that they will build the machines. That's it! What this mean for us?

It means they can post whatever they want, whenever they want. Everything that we hope to see and also that we want to see and any evidence that we want, everything is expectation of every (you) individual. So if you're not satisfied with the given information, you just may be on the wrong place. As this is how do you live your life.

They do not request that we do research on them, they do not want any kind of predictions, while every single person can came up with conspiracy theory. They will do what will, and IMHO, we can do the best for them, if we don't create any pressure.

I know that out of social status of people, there will be allways someone who will have something against a new company. Not because of lack of information in the building of company, at the beginning, but because of himself.

However, I can only say that TerraHash is one of the companies, that have allready put a lot more effort, among all of the companies, that are allready announcing of building a miner or just a working PCB with Avalon chips. Well, if there's still open position for a free 18GH/s unit, discussed above, I am in. I promise I won't change my thoughts, since I have no expectations!

Sorry for my English!

Funny that. I was actually reading this forum for a month(ish) before that. I saw the press release, and the "possible scam" thread within 1/2 hour of each other. I had actually registered to follow the BKKCoins project just a bit before that. Then the "official" thread started up.

The two impressions I've gotten from you have been basically that you and your associates are trying to set up a service that caters to what people like me want, and a certain amount of "holy shit, what did I just step in?"

I do agree that showing the avalon preorder would ease some of the FUD, but I can also understand being reticent. Since you have not started taking preorders and have to my mind been forthcoming and responsive to most everything, I'm really only waiting to see who gets to market first. Of the projects I consider to be real, I see you having just two competitors. KNC and Steamboat. I suspect Steamboat will beat you to market, but I don't think he's able or honestly inclined to take it as far as you are trying to.

I think you might be wise to hire a pr guy, if it's in your budget, cuz some of these guys are brutal. And their opinion seems to carry quite a bit of weight, even when it's pure bullshit. A PR guy is trained to deal with that.

Just remember that there is no such thing as bad publicity, if you let it roll off ya and actually ARE delivering on your end. Once you bring it to market, the haters will be strangely silent.

With the above in mind, and for those just waiting to denounce ANYONE who shows an ounce of support for a new project, I am not on your side, but I am rooting for you. You have, to my mind, the second best proposed commercial machines, and unlike KNC, I won't have to import my miner from Europe. It's hard enough to do interstate business, let alone international. Plus, by the time you get to market I'll be in Idaho, so I could easily drive down and get them myself. To the US market, even though your specs are middle of the road compared to others who are actively developing ASICS, you have some serious advantages if you can pull this off. And if you are even close to on schedule, you'll pull in some serious coin.

Cheers, good luck, and I wish I was where you are instead of where I am.

I will say that with as much 'pull' as this forum has, and the fact that the majority of customers you might get depends heavily on 'approval' from the bitcoin community I would suggest you purchase Avalon chips as soon as humanly possible. Without the chips and a working prototype of a ASIC miner you WILL have a hard time attracting sales.

Most of the Avalons ordered by people directly (through group buys etc) will go into DYI designs and other projects, and if you do have a lot of traffic outside the forum I would assume the bulk of those potential customers would have interest in only fully assembled miners.

Just my 2 satoshi.

I still don't understand some people. ALL they have done so far is inform of their intentions. They have taken NO money, made NO presales, and haven't scammed ANYONE. What is their possible motivation to 'prove' anything before they even have a single product open for ordering?

Damn, just because BFL happened to be the slowest people in history to deliver on orders does not mean you have the right to act as entitled children.

And some people in the Bitcoin community feel that they are entitled to any piece of information about another that they desire.

+1

The transaction ID for your purchase of Avalon chips?

Be forthcoming with information, so people don't have a reason to see ulterior motives.

When people request information, and you refuse to answer, it makes folks think you have something to hide.

For most, it isn't about trolling. It is about integrity.

Interesting...and pretty sad if true.

I do not doubt that there are questions to be answered, but It feels a lot like everyone is sort of jumping to conclusions. They haven't even started taking pre-orders yet, what would 'being a scam' at this stage even mean?

I'm leaning that way as well, though I am watching the race rather eagerly

Agreed that there are definite gaps that need to be filled before anyone should feel comfortable sending them anything. However they aren't there yet.

Unfortunately with mining... If you wait until it's 100% safe the return is low because someone crazier than you took an earlier risk when it was only 50% safe.  If I had to purchase today... I think I would end up with steamboat, though he is a bit more expensive compared to terrahash.

Thanks,
We need this information to make sure they are legit.

They refused to work via escrow.

They refused to show their Avalon chip order #.

They refused to post their California company registration info.

They refused to post their company info (from the one registered in DE).

I believe they stated that they WERE located in an office where they were not.
While some say that they were a little over exuberant, it shows to others a lack of integrity.

We all know they were just starting up, so why not say that they were interested in moving to location X?
No, they stated that they were located where they were not.


All of the above are Red Flags.

You seem to have a dog in this fight. Since I'm looking to buy assembled boards, in the event you are right, nothing will happen to me since I'm waiting for demonstrated product. But unless you are holding something out, you have the same evidence as the rest of it, and I'm sorry couselor, it's inconclusive.

I am new on this forum, but hardly unknown on the internet. While you didn't specifically point that gun at me, I resent the implication. I wish I still lived in San Jose, I'd meet up with these guys and get some video. But unfortunately, my old ass is in the People's Republic of Pennsylvania and all I can do is watch from a distance.

There is a hard corps of people on this forum that seem to view everything and everyone as a scam. Sorry if y'all got burned in the past. It's happened to practically everyone at some point. The newbie bashing is endemic to forums regardless of subject, and it gets really fucking annoying really fucking fast. You were a newbie not very long ago. In fact, your register date (    February 27, 2013, 01:02:47 AM) is about a week before I discovered this forum. Prior to that what little I knew about bitcoin came from Youtube, where I've been a member for many years, and bits and scraps in the news. Life being the bitch that it often is, my personal issues caused me to miss out on the early adoption of this interesting and potentially profitable hobby. I'm trying to rectify that, and ASIC looks like the next wave. If that offends you, happy to be of service.

Now crank down the fucking volume and give people a chance. At one time William Gates was a newbie. And the early days of Microsoft were not exactly marked with professionalism either.

Nothing has happened yet...

Thanks for the quick run down. It seems like the address thing could of been an honest mistake.

I still haven't decided where/how I'll get my chips on a board, I guess I'm going to wait and see how all the assembly companies develop and await their progress reports/evidence.

I'll line up to get one.

Will the product be available to pick up locally?