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legendary
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September 25, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
I have just sent a PM to everyone that would like to be involved with the Lawsuit,

If you would like to be involved but did not receive a PM please PM me ASAP as information is being requested.



@Terrahash, you still have a chance to do right by your customers by communicating and or refunding those that want out. It's up to you.

sent you a PM
member
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September 25, 2013, 08:24:02 AM
oops nvm Smiley
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
September 25, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Hi all,

I need some help!

I live in Europe and paid my order with Paypal. 45 days for opening a dispute are gone.

What can i do for a refund? I can't have a lawyer in the US...

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

There is a thread going around on how to get a refund for BFL that some are saying works. I will see if i can dig it up for you.

Edit: complete thoughts..... Need.... More..... Coffee...

People are suggesting that this should also work for TerraHash.
newbie
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September 25, 2013, 07:35:55 AM
Hi all,

I need some help!

I live in Europe and paid my order with Paypal. 45 days for opening a dispute are gone.

What can i do for a refund? I can't have a lawyer in the US...

Any suggestions?

Thank you!
legendary
Activity: 2198
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September 25, 2013, 07:28:33 AM
ONE OF DUKES PREVIOUS HELPFUL POSTINGS: Almost sounds like BAR at times...lol

DUKES HELPFUL QUOTE
All this silly bickering about my order is before yours is totally childish.

The order queue is not a childish bragging ground.  It is how we can grade how TH is coming along with filling our orders.  Once people in the order queue start receiving estimates and their actual orders people will start to get an idea on how long they can expect to wait until receiving their orders.  As far as TH "going quiet" I would much rather have them working on servicing and filling our orders than answering every random question here.  It think this is a good medium to announce updates and frequent questions but not customer specific questions.


Oh and by the way, I have looked at your post in here to see what and how constructive and helpfull you have been....lol, I didnt see shit that benefited anyone.....so you go fly a kite too! and I was a customer of TH like you and everyone else in here,,and ill sure f**king post all i want and when I want until this worthless thread is closed.
Thank you.
legendary
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September 25, 2013, 07:15:16 AM
TrashHash ..... I've asked twice about there $6 g/hash deal and nothing.  Been over the time they say the would have listed in their store. Oh hum.
Don't hold your breath,,, all that hoopla about more pre orders for hosting is just another high risk attempt to raise capitol. If they can find more loosers like duke to fall for it.
legendary
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September 25, 2013, 07:11:42 AM
Bar, for what you wasted or will loose on your investment with terrahash,,,,,you could have bought probably 4-5 Terrahash's worth of mining gear from cointerra and made boo koos worth of bitcoin and money,,,,but not now Sad

I kinda feel sorry for you ,,,at first I was envious on how much you ordered, and gee you were the first in line to! of course you made sure we all were aware of that since the beginning,,, I guess the horn tooting is all over now......whats the old saying,,,the bigger you are the harder you will fall, remember that in life, and don't brag and boast so much as you did early on,,,, nothing personal,,,,we like you ,,,,,,,, and im probably older than most in here, and also have learned the hard way Smiley good luck with getting your money back.

I'm sorry but you completely discredited yourself by saying you were envious of Bar.  You don't sound like a wise old investor, you sound like a bratty child who is schattenfrued.  I'm sure Bar like the rest of us knew the risks before he ordered, I'm sure Bar like most of the others who ordered didn't risk money we couldn't afford to lose.  That being said, I plan on getting my money back from Terrahash and if you have nothing useful to add to the discussion go fly a kite.
ya ya ya ya  ,,ok Jr. you have fun to getting your money back sucker, be sure to post in here and let us all know how it works out for ya. And if you consider that discrediting myself ,thats fine,,,I wasn't f**king stupid enough to throw in THOUSANDS like bar and maybe you to some unknown,,...thats my wisdom right there ya fool.

PS: and WTF are you German or something?? schattenfrued  lol,,,,, "heil hitler"  Ive lost more money than you have probably have made in your entire life...at least im in the black and not the red.
member
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September 25, 2013, 03:19:01 AM
TrashHash ..... I've asked twice about there $6 g/hash deal and nothing.  Been over the time they say the would have listed in their store. Oh hum.
member
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September 24, 2013, 10:24:36 PM


PS: They will answer their phone Smiley


for now...
im done with this pre order crap
full member
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September 24, 2013, 10:09:42 PM
Bar, for what you wasted or will loose on your investment with terrahash,,,,,you could have bought probably 4-5 Terrahash's worth of mining gear from cointerra and made boo koos worth of bitcoin and money,,,,but not now Sad

I kinda feel sorry for you ,,,at first I was envious on how much you ordered, and gee you were the first in line to! of course you made sure we all were aware of that since the beginning,,, I guess the horn tooting is all over now......whats the old saying,,,the bigger you are the harder you will fall, remember that in life, and don't brag and boast so much as you did early on,,,, nothing personal,,,,we like you ,,,,,,,, and im probably older than most in here, and also have learned the hard way Smiley good luck with getting your money back.

I'm sorry but you completely discredited yourself by saying you were envious of Bar.  You don't sound like a wise old investor, you sound like a bratty child who is schattenfrued.  I'm sure Bar like the rest of us knew the risks before he ordered, I'm sure Bar like most of the others who ordered didn't risk money we couldn't afford to lose.  That being said, I plan on getting my money back from Terrahash and if you have nothing useful to add to the discussion go fly a kite.
legendary
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September 24, 2013, 08:46:28 PM
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Bar, for what you wasted or will loose on your investment with terrahash,,,,,you could have bought probably 4-5 Terrahash's worth of mining gear from cointerra and made boo koos worth of bitcoin and money,,,,but not now Sad


2 Tera Hz! Wow! And they say it's low power consumer! Don't see any wattage rating though?
It's a Pre order?
And you can only pay with Bitcoin or Bank Wire Transfer?  Cheesy
Must be very confident in their ability to deliver the product by their delivery date. Roll Eyes

Run. Don't look back.

Oh they now except paypal and credit card!!! cointerra,, these guys have their shit together,,,lol,,,,   ok, here ya go gang,,,from cointerra today:



Hello Bitcoin Mining Enthusiasts,

We have recently released a new video demonstrating a working FGPA, as well as additional GoldStrike1 ASIC chip details.

To watch the video and read the full release, please head to http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/ .

If you can't wait and just want the GoldStrike ASIC specs, here they are!
•Global Foundries: 28nm HPP process.Clock-speed: 1.4 GHz (min binning speed) to 2    GHz (max binning speed)
•Die size: 3 dies of 10x10 mm for a total of 300 sqmm.
•Hash rate: 504 GH/s to 720 GH/s based on binning speed
•Hashes per sq mm: 1.68 GH/s/mm2 to 2.4 GH/s/mm2
•Power consumption: <0.6 watts/GH/s (@ 0.765 volts)
•Architecture: pipelined unrolled hashing units
•Tape-out due: 1st week of October

System cooling:  Custom designed liquid cooling by CoolIT Systems capable of 400 watts per chip, though the chip will not exceed 300 watts in normal operating condition. incorporating  3x high speed 12cm fans with 4U sized radiator at the back.  System box was recently upgraded from 2u to 4u to allow for larger fans and radiator to provide significant increase in cooling capacity and reduced fan noise  - 12cm fans are much quieter than 9cm fans.

Logistics: By design, all suppliers (excluding ASIC), including PCB design, board and box assembly provided locally in Austin to reduce shipping delays of parts between locations and eliminate delays due to logistics or customs.

Significant payments made to fab to expedite process from usual 90+ days to 65 days.

Chips expected back, early December.

Systems expected to begin shipping to customers, Mid December.

We are proud of the progress we have made and hope that you enjoy the short video we have put together.

If you have any questions, you can always reach us at [email protected] or 512-270-6050.

PS: They will answer their phone Smiley
legendary
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September 24, 2013, 08:14:47 PM
Terrahash was online
But no response
sr. member
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September 24, 2013, 07:30:52 PM
Quote
Bar, for what you wasted or will loose on your investment with terrahash,,,,,you could have bought probably 4-5 Terrahash's worth of mining gear from cointerra and made boo koos worth of bitcoin and money,,,,but not now Sad


2 Tera Hz! Wow! And they say it's low power consumer! Don't see any wattage rating though?
It's a Pre order?
And you can only pay with Bitcoin or Bank Wire Transfer?  Cheesy
Must be very confident in their ability to deliver the product by their delivery date. Roll Eyes

Run. Don't look back.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
Bar, for what you wasted or will loose on your investment with terrahash,,,,,you could have bought probably 4-5 Terrahash's worth of mining gear from cointerra and made boo koos worth of bitcoin and money,,,,but not now Sad

I kinda feel sorry for you ,,,at first I was envious on how much you ordered, and gee you were the first in line to! of course you made sure we all were aware of that since the beginning,,, I guess the horn tooting is all over now......whats the old saying,,,the bigger you are the harder you will fall, remember that in life, and don't brag and boast so much as you did early on,,,, nothing personal,,,,we like you ,,,,,,,, and im probably older than most in here, and also have learned the hard way Smiley good luck with getting your money back.
legendary
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September 24, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
Now this is what I like to see  Wink Notice the true pro's are not afraid to show their faces! unlike Terrahash where all we ever saw was hands... what were they afraid of ?..hmmmm

http://cointerra.com/cointerra-demonstrates-working-fpga-releases-additional-chip-details/
newbie
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September 24, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
OMG this thread just get's even more entertaining!

Are you people seriously going to allow this idiot who has completely lost touch with reality since day 1 waste any more of your time?

That is if he actually is a real customer with an actual investment and not an associate of TH who is trying to buy time as he has done all along.

If the above is not true then he has completely lost touch with reality, just read all his previous posts to see that.

Why would anybody EVER follow him anywhere???

Anyway good luck all, glad people are finally coming to their senses but wow what an epic long time it took to get there!

Let the train wreck continue..........

legendary
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September 24, 2013, 01:25:42 PM
Just because you hire a lawyer doesn't mean you talk to him immediately.
At least in my experience dealing with them.

Very true.  Good lawyers are selective on their cases.  For what its worth sounds like Bar's gave him good advice on not including Bitcoin with money in one.  

Also it can be a slow experience.  Even if you have all the right things, and lawyer lined up it takes time.  Also i would consult with multiple lawyers if you are able to and pay the fee if they charge it for consult.  Even if you have all the paperwork done, they will contact TH... wait for reply.  I bet they dont reply.  Then depends on lawyer from there, but it will take time.

My personal opinion was when TH announced they needed 3 months to do full refunds, chances are they had 3 months of operating cash left.  Again could be wrong.  But i would be a little worried on timeframe.
legendary
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September 24, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
Regarding the project as a whole. Since Yifu is offering chip refunds now, we can go that route. But as you know, chips were only about 50-60% cost in our operation, that is all we would be able to refund everyone.

Another option is to get a refund now, and buy the Gen 2 chips in October. Yifu has announced that the Gen 2 chips will be fully compatible with Gen 1. So, we would be able to use the current boards, heat sinks, cases and most (if not all) of the components. And everyone will get about 8-10 times more hashing power for same price. (This is just an estimate, we will get more details once he releases the specs.) And we'll get another month and a half to sort out the issues with the current design. Instead of depending upon BkkCoins this time, we will hire people here to build upon and improve his design. We will open source everything we do.



Terrahash,

Please indicate what your plan is moving forward.
I understand things can be difficult.
If Avalon is not giving info on the 55nm, please indicate that.
If you are in a quandary regarding the k16 or k64 - please be forthcoming on the Klondike page - there are more minds working on the project now, they will assist. If you are open-source, be open-source.


I suggest the following:
~Come completely clean on your current k16/k64 situation. (Post on the Klondike boards your progress)
~State what was done with all the Avalon 110nm orders. (I assume you saw the wisdom in cancelling and refunding those orders)
~Move forward publicly with an upgrade option to the 55nm. (Even if you don't have all the specs yet from Avalon, or a fully efficient board with 110nm, the Klondike with Avalon chips is the best open-source option out there at this time for Asics - many will continue to support it)
~Refunds must become an option for those that want them. (If you can only go 1/2 now and 1/2 later, then so be it, just make it happen)

I can promise, we will be more open and be better with customer service this time!


Please live up to this and respond with your plan within 48 hours.

Thank you.





wow that sure was a waste of your time typing ...nice try though
hero member
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September 24, 2013, 11:51:38 AM
Just because you hire a lawyer doesn't mean you talk to him immediately.
At least in my experience dealing with them.

Point taken, and I agree with that. It is simply another thing to consider, as I mistakenly read his first message as it being already well in progress. Those that hes talked to in PM would know more on what he's stated so far about it. The entire message as a whole was just to point out that people should really think twice about just sitting back and letting others do the leg work on this, especially given the track record of the person leading the effort.

Sure, if it's a small order, it may not be worth to pursue alone, but anyone with larger orders should do it themselves, it's not difficult. Take his own Lawyer's advice!
full member
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So sexy, it hurts.
September 24, 2013, 11:50:15 AM
Regarding the project as a whole. Since Yifu is offering chip refunds now, we can go that route. But as you know, chips were only about 50-60% cost in our operation, that is all we would be able to refund everyone.

Another option is to get a refund now, and buy the Gen 2 chips in October. Yifu has announced that the Gen 2 chips will be fully compatible with Gen 1. So, we would be able to use the current boards, heat sinks, cases and most (if not all) of the components. And everyone will get about 8-10 times more hashing power for same price. (This is just an estimate, we will get more details once he releases the specs.) And we'll get another month and a half to sort out the issues with the current design. Instead of depending upon BkkCoins this time, we will hire people here to build upon and improve his design. We will open source everything we do.



Terrahash,

Please indicate what your plan is moving forward.
I understand things can be difficult.
If Avalon is not giving info on the 55nm, please indicate that.
If you are in a quandary regarding the k16 or k64 - please be forthcoming on the Klondike page - there are more minds working on the project now, they will assist. If you are open-source, be open-source.


I suggest the following:
~Come completely clean on your current k16/k64 situation. (Post on the Klondike boards your progress)
~State what was done with all the Avalon 110nm orders. (I assume you saw the wisdom in cancelling and refunding those orders)
~Move forward publicly with an upgrade option to the 55nm. (Even if you don't have all the specs yet from Avalon, or a fully efficient board with 110nm, the Klondike with Avalon chips is the best open-source option out there at this time for Asics - many will continue to support it)
~Refunds must become an option for those that want them. (If you can only go 1/2 now and 1/2 later, then so be it, just make it happen)

I can promise, we will be more open and be better with customer service this time!


Please live up to this and respond with your plan within 48 hours.

Thank you.




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