Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) - page 176.

shtako

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Quote from: drAGon925 on July 14, 2014, 08:51:52 AM

Quote from: lunokhod2 on July 12, 2014, 12:53:09 PM

Anoncoin is now accepting donations:

Acoin7tkEib9d8BfomQYUK66z5fhwN3DgV

Most of your donations will be used for the setting up of bounties for public relations work, but some may also be used for specific code development tasks as well. Specific bounties that we envision for the immediate future include

Creation of press releases
Writing of Blog entries
Writing of popular articles about Anoncoin
Writing of in-depth articles on the wiki and
Web design and support.

As soon as enough ANC has been donated, we will set up a dedicated page describing the conditions attached to these bounties.

For your info, the above public address is owned by the lead developer, Meeh.

It would be good to have some list of donors?
Maybe it would speed up the desire for donating.

One last point then I will drop this userid, I know I've irritated a few people.

Donations for writing articles *yawn*, press releases and so on.

Making the focus of anonymity political would solve that problem.

A press release like 'Anoncoin is creating country specific solutions to anonymity. Currently we are working on a wallet that would be easily used in Whateverthefuckistan and would allow users to hide the wallet from computer searches' etc etc, could easily be picked up by a major news outlet and syndicated. Some thought would have to go into side issues of course, you don't want to read in the jew york times '20 n koreans executed for having anc wallets'.

There would be plenty of donations and plenty of offers of help from top notch amateurs.

On the other hand, 'please donate so we can write articles about our coin' doesn't cut it.

Oh wait, 'please donate and we will put your name on the donation hero list'. No disrespect intended drAgon, i like all of your other comments and learned a bit from them. That one flopped though.

auf wiedersehen

I just wanted to say, don't drop your username. I don't agree with everything you write, but your focus on the political quality of anoncoin is refreshing. There has to be room for different opinions.

drAGon925

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Quote from: drAGon925 on July 14, 2014, 08:51:52 AM

Quote from: lunokhod2 on July 12, 2014, 12:53:09 PM

One last point then I will drop this userid, I know I've irritated a few people.

Donations for writing articles *yawn*, press releases and so on.

Making the focus of anonymity political would solve that problem.

A press release like 'Anoncoin is creating country specific solutions to anonymity. Currently we are working on a wallet that would be easily used in Whateverthefuckistan and would allow users to hide the wallet from computer searches' etc etc, could easily be picked up by a major news outlet and syndicated. Some thought would have to go into side issues of course, you don't want to read in the jew york times '20 n koreans executed for having anc wallets'.

There would be plenty of donations and plenty of offers of help from top notch amateurs.

On the other hand, 'please donate so we can write articles about our coin' doesn't cut it.

Oh wait, 'please donate and we will put your name on the donation hero list'. No disrespect intended drAgon, i like all of your other comments and learned a bit from them. That one flopped though.

auf wiedersehen

I agree with you, it is generally written. But initiated by the member-s of forum, not devs I think,
and maybe donation will be the beginning of anything that would be ok for ANC.
We see by the response that is not the best accepted.

I mentioned the list, perhaps awkwardly, but as this Bitcoin Forum has a list, any new item incorporated into the ANC makes me happy.

And example is the donation of one member before few weeks, he gave 10% of his ANC for the possible project,
even if project fails, at least to the rest written on a list that he is donated..

I personally am not afraid of any donor lists, not hiding from anyone,
and the same time I still prefer that my transaction will be anonymous if I want to, because I think it's my right to be, or if the other party wants to work that way.

Today 10-100 ANC looks nothing, but if you can help the ANC, it's really nothing to donate.

So I will repeat you address, and ask you to stay with us

Acoin7tkEib9d8BfomQYUK66z5fhwN3DgV

drAGon925

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Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Congratulations to everyone else....but I still don't have my coins from Cryptsy. Sad

Got an email from support saying that all the problems had been fixed in a site wide audit, but to reply if coins were still missing. Replied to that email explaining that I'm still missing over 70% of coins after over 2 weeks, and sent the same info to the "Customer Service Manager" I have been speaking to for the last couple weeks. No response 24 hrs later. Sent them both emails again. 24 hours later, still no response....

Cryptsy is very unstable for ANC,

I have canceled my buy order, and btc not showing in half hour...

So I believe you for that 70% , ask them to cancel all your withdraw orders, and get back your ANCs on cryptsy,
that is something, then try again first with small amonut.

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Your paragraph about cryptonote, if it's accurate, explains to me why that coin would be flawed to someone who values better anonymity. I'm very sure 90%+ of people do not know that.

It's not correct, as pointed out above.

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Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but could someone explain to me how working with the Monero devs could improve anonymity? Didn't Monero implement CryptoNote which utilizes ring signatures? Meaning that it merely clouds the sender because you know it is one of X people involved in the signature? And the anonymity relies heavily on the members involved in the ring signature. My understanding of the Zerocoin implementation is that it would be cryptographically impossible to link the sender to the receiver.

Ring signatures add obfuscation, but there are already stealth addresses, so even without ring signatures tracking a transaction is extremely difficult and requires reducing the anonymity set in other ways until you've figured it out.

If you're particularly interested, our annotated version of the CryptoNote whitepaper is a good starting point. Section 4.3 describes the unlinkable nature of transactions, ring signatures are only covered in 4.4, and 4.5 shows how they're combined in a standard transaction.

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Quote from: drAGon925 on July 15, 2014, 12:41:25 PM

Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but could someone explain to me how working with the Monero devs could improve anonymity? Didn't Monero implement CryptoNote which utilizes ring signatures? Meaning that it merely clouds the sender because you know it is one of X people involved in the signature? And the anonymity relies heavily on the members involved in the ring signature. My understanding of the Zerocoin implementation is that it would be cryptographically impossible to link the sender to the receiver.

No details for now, it is a possibility, because obviously there has been contact between Meeh and Monero dev.
Every communication and cooperation can only help ANC,
so I welcome this opportunity!
We need to involve as many people as possible, buyers and friends of the Anoncoin with Zerocoin implantation.

Yeah - this is about identifying areas where Monero and Anoncoin are trying to accomplish the same thing, and instead of duplicating effort we're finding ways of only developing something once so that both Anoncoin and Monero can use and benefit from it:)

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Quote from: drAGon925 on July 15, 2014, 12:41:25 PM

Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but could someone explain to me how working with the Monero devs could improve anonymity? Didn't Monero implement CryptoNote which utilizes ring signatures? Meaning that it merely clouds the sender because you know it is one of X people involved in the signature? And the anonymity relies heavily on the members involved in the ring signature. My understanding of the Zerocoin implementation is that it would be cryptographically impossible to link the sender to the receiver.

No details for now, it is a possibility, because obviously there has been contact between Meeh and Monero dev.
Every communication and cooperation can only help ANC,
so I welcome this opportunity!
We need to involve as many people as possible, buyers and friends of the Anoncoin with Zerocoin implantation.

Wow, going across the aisle to XMR, I like it!

What could this mean for ANC? Always been a fan but lately I'm in XMR.

drAGon925

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Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but could someone explain to me how working with the Monero devs could improve anonymity? Didn't Monero implement CryptoNote which utilizes ring signatures? Meaning that it merely clouds the sender because you know it is one of X people involved in the signature? And the anonymity relies heavily on the members involved in the ring signature. My understanding of the Zerocoin implementation is that it would be cryptographically impossible to link the sender to the receiver.

No details for now, it is a possibility, because obviously there has been contact between Meeh and Monero dev.
Every communication and cooperation can only help ANC,
so I welcome this opportunity!
We need to involve as many people as possible, buyers and friends of the Anoncoin with Zerocoin implantation.

Apraksin

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Quote from: Rspigler on July 15, 2014, 11:39:46 AM

Congratulations to everyone else....but I still don't have my coins from Cryptsy. Sad

Got an email from support saying that all the problems had been fixed in a site wide audit, but to reply if coins were still missing. Replied to that email explaining that I'm still missing over 70% of coins after over 2 weeks, and sent the same info to the "Customer Service Manager" I have been speaking to for the last couple weeks. No response 24 hrs later. Sent them both emails again. 24 hours later, still no response....

Weird, I withdrew about 900 ANC a few hours ago and had them 15 minutes later.

Rspigler

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Congratulations to everyone else....but I still don't have my coins from Cryptsy. Sad

Got an email from support saying that all the problems had been fixed in a site wide audit, but to reply if coins were still missing. Replied to that email explaining that I'm still missing over 70% of coins after over 2 weeks, and sent the same info to the "Customer Service Manager" I have been speaking to for the last couple weeks. No response 24 hrs later. Sent them both emails again. 24 hours later, still no response....

As for this weird argument about whether anonymity has an effect on the long term success of this coin; that is the ONLY reason I'm interested in this coin. It is the only thing that sets it apart from all other coins and will hopefully have a huge impact on the crypto world.

Maybe I'm missing something, but could someone explain to me how working with the Monero devs could improve anonymity? Didn't Monero implement CryptoNote which utilizes ring signatures? Meaning that it merely clouds the sender because you know it is one of X people involved in the signature? And the anonymity relies heavily on the members involved in the ring signature. My understanding of the Zerocoin implementation is that it would be cryptographically impossible to link the sender to the receiver.

Meeh, have a great vacation. You definitely deserve it!

drAGon925

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Quote from: meeh on July 15, 2014, 08:21:12 AM

Quote from: drAGon925 on July 15, 2014, 03:06:29 AM

any news on blockchain? Wink

I will ask on IRC, lately I've gotten help from a lot of good people, so I can focus on C++, ANC, Abscond and those. And not running around fixing server stuff all the time

Meanwhile use http://ancblockchain.com/chain/Anoncoin
Trusted blockchain explorer, the maintainer works with us as well wrt server issues. (Thanks geekz)

I'm joking with geekz... he is doing a great work there.

Take a break, and get back for new wins

While you will fly on a plane, here is a song to listen : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEthXBHsEac

meeh

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:)

Quote from: drAGon925 on July 15, 2014, 03:06:29 AM

any news on blockchain? Wink

I will ask on IRC, lately I've gotten help from a lot of good people, so I can focus on C++, ANC, Abscond and those. And not running around fixing server stuff all the time

Meanwhile use http://ancblockchain.com/chain/Anoncoin
Trusted blockchain explorer, the maintainer works with us as well wrt server issues. (Thanks geekz)

meeh

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:)

Quote from: drAGon925 on July 15, 2014, 12:53:51 AM

If nothing else, we will have a new drunk photo for twitter

Oh yea

, hang on! Flight is going in four hours!

Thanks ppl!

Apraksin

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Quote from: meeh on July 14, 2014, 09:19:29 PM

I would also like to add this; fluffypon(the dev) and the Monero coin is someone we might co-work with to increase anonymity, but again, we haven't decided much else than that we don't shittalk eachother. So not you fans too Wink

Intriguing news! Please elaborate when possible.

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Quote from: geekz on July 15, 2014, 02:47:12 AM

Quote from: meeh on July 14, 2014, 09:19:29 PM

Blog update finally; https://sigterm.no/blog/30/

Great news meeh! May be we can have Anoncon wallet with i2p working for mobile phones.

It would be awesome.

So much awesomeness on the way. Cheesy

Hello to India!

TripleAwesome : )

any news on blockchain? Wink

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Quote from: meeh on July 14, 2014, 09:19:29 PM

Blog update finally; https://sigterm.no/blog/30/

Great news meeh! May be we can have Anoncon wallet with i2p working for mobile phones.

It would be awesome.

So much awesomeness on the way. Cheesy

drAGon925

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Quote from: meeh on July 14, 2014, 09:19:29 PM

Blog update finally; https://sigterm.no/blog/30/

Other news; Nothing is decided yet, but it might end up in a agreement where I work some % of my dayjob to speedup the i2pd process, meaning I'm founded to program on it, again resulting in i2pd would be ready faster and I can implement it. But I will get back to you guys if this becomes a reality/actual deal.

I would also like to add this; fluffypon(the dev) and the Monero coin is someone we might co-work with to increase anonymity, but again, we haven't decided much else than that we don't shittalk eachother. So not you fans too Wink

Side note; Yes, We're still working on Zerocoin, no problems there, so don't start thinking that because we're might co-work with Monero in the future we have given up on Zerocoin or anything in that form.

If nothing else, we will have a new drunk photo for twitter

after few mushrooms maybe new coin Anoner0 ; )

have a nice trip and get back safe with news!

meeh

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:)

Blog update finally; https://sigterm.no/blog/30/

Other news; Nothing is decided yet, but it might end up in a agreement where I work some % of my dayjob to speedup the i2pd process, meaning I'm founded to program on it, again resulting in i2pd would be ready faster and I can implement it. But I will get back to you guys if this becomes a reality/actual deal.

I would also like to add this; fluffypon(the dev) and the Monero coin is someone we might co-work with to increase anonymity, but again, we haven't decided much else than that we don't shittalk eachother. So not you fans too Wink

Side note; Yes, We're still working on Zerocoin, no problems there, so don't start thinking that because we're might co-work with Monero in the future we have given up on Zerocoin or anything in that form.

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Quote from: meeh on July 14, 2014, 02:52:30 PM

Quote from: matthewh3 on July 13, 2014, 03:48:58 PM

Quote from: meeh on July 13, 2014, 12:54:57 PM

Quote from: matthewh3 on July 13, 2014, 12:03:29 PM

''''''''

make[1]: g++: Command not found

Installing GCC/G++ compiler usually solves this problem

I myself prefer to install the meta package build-essential. It includes make, gcc etc.. including g++ IIRC.

I installed build-essential and the compilation got much further this time. However it still exited with the following error.

Code:

alert.cpp:6:53: fatal error: boost/algorithm/string/classification.hpp: No such file or directory
 #include 
                                                     ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1

So I installed libboost1.54-dev for a try and then got a much shorter compilation effort with the following error code.

Code:

$ make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=-
g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/obj -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/leveldb/include -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/leveldb/helpers -DUSE_NATIVE_I2P -I/home/bob/anoncoin/i2psam -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
In file included from serialize.h:22:0,
                 from netbase.h:10,
                 from util.h:34,
                 from alert.h:13,
                 from alert.cpp:11:
allocators.h:12:53: fatal error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory
 #include  // for OPENSSL_cleanse()
                                                     ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1

Although I have the package openssl already installed so got stuck there.

> I installed build-essential and the compilation got much further this time. However it still exited with the following error.

Great to hear it worked better, however sad to hear it didn't compile 100%. Do you got the libssl-dev package installed? IIRC that's the name of openssl development files. you can simply do a "ls /usr/include/openssl/", if it's listing files it's something wrong with our build scripts, if you get a error you're just missing the development files

he could just follow the compilation documentation in doc/

meeh

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Quote from: matthewh3 on July 13, 2014, 03:48:58 PM

Quote from: meeh on July 13, 2014, 12:54:57 PM

Quote from: matthewh3 on July 13, 2014, 12:03:29 PM

''''''''

make[1]: g++: Command not found

Installing GCC/G++ compiler usually solves this problem

I myself prefer to install the meta package build-essential. It includes make, gcc etc.. including g++ IIRC.

I installed build-essential and the compilation got much further this time. However it still exited with the following error.

Code:

alert.cpp:6:53: fatal error: boost/algorithm/string/classification.hpp: No such file or directory
 #include 
                                                     ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1

So I installed libboost1.54-dev for a try and then got a much shorter compilation effort with the following error code.

Code:

$ make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=-
g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/obj -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/leveldb/include -I/home/bob/anoncoin/src/leveldb/helpers -DUSE_NATIVE_I2P -I/home/bob/anoncoin/i2psam -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
In file included from serialize.h:22:0,
                 from netbase.h:10,
                 from util.h:34,
                 from alert.h:13,
                 from alert.cpp:11:
allocators.h:12:53: fatal error: openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory
 #include  // for OPENSSL_cleanse()
                                                     ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1

Although I have the package openssl already installed so got stuck there.

> I installed build-essential and the compilation got much further this time. However it still exited with the following error.

Great to hear it worked better, however sad to hear it didn't compile 100%. Do you got the libssl-dev package installed? IIRC that's the name of openssl development files. you can simply do a "ls /usr/include/openssl/", if it's listing files it's something wrong with our build scripts, if you get a error you're just missing the development files

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