Official BlackCoin statement from CryptoRush - Very shocking information - page 18.

Zackgeno96

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ok this is beyond serious READ THIS CAREFULLY,

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[20:32] Mode is +ns
[20:35] Either he's gonna join us quick or we'll have to wait for ~8 hours
[20:38] cool
[20:39] could it be those 25k coins where sent before the fork?
[20:40] well even if that happened, it means the integrity broke aomewhere
[20:40] but we keep a close eye on missing money if it ever happens, and BC was fine
[20:41] yeah
[21:15] Soepkip about?
[21:15] ive finished the report
[21:15] the daemon created/fabricated balances
[21:15] 22,052,756.46576266 is the reported missing amount. this was not a problem before the update as I said our total balance was just over 1 mil
[21:16] we had BC unupdated for a good 8 hours, at the point of take down it was just over 1 mil
[21:21] hmm
[21:22] well you'll have to wait for rat4
[21:22] i checked up with other exchanges if they had problems and they seem not to have any so far.
[21:22] but could be their wallet implementation is different from yours
[21:23] yea we have a unique wallet implementation
[21:23] which shouldnt change anything, though
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[22:02] Mode is +ns
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[03:40] hey Linkandzelda
[03:41] hey
[03:41] whats up Soepkip, rat4
[03:42] he's awaken from his sleep mode
[03:42] hi
[03:42] heya
[03:42] i filled rat4 in with the details
[03:42] sorry to bother you

[03:42] so far as i had them
[03:43] so let me explain best I can what happened to refresh the details
[03:43] I built my exchange to work around the daemon's account feature for managing user trades and balances/deposits/withdraws
[03:44] so every user on site has thier own daemon account with addresses and balance tied to it
[03:44] this worked fine for BC up until the latest upgrade
[03:45] which basically, I dont knpow how, but it gave users too many coins (too many being an extra 21 million in total)
[03:45] we only had just over 1 mil on site before the upgrade
[03:46] so we re-launched BC after the upgrade, then noticed 30 mins later all our coins were gone Sad

[03:47] we have 53 BC lft on site, and I know I had 2k of my own coins on site, so users have withdrawn coins they didnt have
[03:47] same situation as Zeitcoin
[03:48] at this present moment our balance integrity for BC is broken, we cant resume trading without major damage
[03:50] oh and of course, we found out 30 mins too late these details after re-launching it
[03:50] anything you guys can do to help?
[03:50] I'm surprised that someone uses accounts of daemon
[03:51] yea I regret it now but thats how I decided to make the system... next version will not opperate that way for sure. so much trouble caused
[03:51] do getbalance and getbalance "*" return the same?
[03:51] let me find out, one sec
[03:53] yes identical values
[03:59] try checkwallet it can find some coins if you played with wallet.dat
[04:00] maybe some coins currenlty in stake, see stake in getinfo
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[04:20] rat4 let me take a look
[04:21] rat4: stake is 0
[04:23] what says checkwallet ?
[04:25] true
[04:26] "wallet check passed" : true
[04:32] just in case you can dumpwallet, stop daemon, move wallet.dat to another place, start daemon and importwallet
[04:32] but it's unlikely that it can find something
[04:33] hmm
[05:51] hey rat4 still there?
[05:51] I think I figured it out
[05:56] yes
[06:07] stakecoins balance account bug
[06:58] rat4 heres the full report on the situation
[06:58] Total withdrawn: 20,381,892.41143484
[06:58] Total deposited: 20,448,517.07003221
[06:58] Total stake generated: 1,640.08575003
[06:58] Supposed current site balance: 66,624.65859738
[06:58] Consolidated reported current site balance (user daemon accounts): 22,052,756.46576266
[06:58] Actual daemon balance: 68,025.87273473
[06:59] can you see the issue there?
[06:59] an extra 22 million that appeared right out of nowhere
[06:59] our actual balance is correct based on whats been put into the site and out again
[07:10] looks like the bug is that sending part of stake transaction is subtracted from "" account and receiving part is added to real account
[07:11] if that's the case getbalance "" should return -22M
[07:20] rat4 let me try that and see
[07:21] yep
[07:21] ./blackcoind getbalance ""
[07:21] -22052702.65300247
[07:23] ./blackcoind listtransactions ""
[07:23] [
[07:23] ]
[07:23] so its definitly a bug
[07:23] how can we solve this? ive lost a lot of BTC becuase of this, + BC trading needs to be totally reset on site to prevent damage
[07:24] havent lost yet but, yea, we're talking a lot of BC thats gone
[07:26] ive got users litterally hammer me claiming that I stole this money Sad

[07:27] the problem is that 60k is your real balance if you processed withdrawals
[07:28] yes
[07:28] we processed withdrawals becuase of this extra 22 million
[07:28] people withdrew coins they didnt have
[07:28] which lowered down the overall balance
[07:29] theres also no way of knowing users actual balances
[07:31] which version you used before?
[07:31] the previous version to the one we have now
[07:31] how many upgrades has thier been since launch of the coin?
[07:32] we've upgraded to each one of them when they became available
[07:33] 1.0.0 1.0.1 1.0.2 1.0.3 and now 1.0.5
[07:34] i see
[07:34] im bringing in some more members of the team
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[07:36] rat4: what were the changelogs for each of those versions, any of them to do with something that could cause this bug?
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[07:40] hi
[07:40] hi
[07:41] so what's the deal with this bug? have you isolated it?
[07:41] sort of
[07:41] so you were on 1.0.1 or 1.0.2?
[07:44] Linkandzelda: ?
[07:45] need to find out when we compiled it
[07:45] Devianttwo would know that better than me
[07:45] as well as upgrades
[07:46] Uhh sec.
[07:46] [US.HSG 1]::[Mar 25 02:46:25]:~/blackcoin >> git pull
[07:46] Already up-to-date.
[07:47] we iniitally compiled on the 27th feb
[07:47] not sure which version was out then
[07:48] heres the tweet https://twitter.com/TheCryptoRush/status/438846475460550656
[07:55] i've applied only mandatory changes on top of your prev version, try branch 1.0.2
[07:56] wont downgrading break it or not work due to the fork?
[07:58] do backup and try, it should work
[07:59] Devianttwo... its 4 am for you, how to do it? lol
[07:59] its 8am here
[07:59] Ugg.. I don't have the old version..
[07:59] Id have to redownload it.
[08:00] i mean do git pull; git checkout 1.0.2
[08:04] [US.HSG 1]::[Mar 25 03:02:22]:~/blackcoin >> git checkout master
[08:04] Switched to branch 'master'
[08:04] [US.HSG 1]::[Mar 25 03:03:46]:~/blackcoin >> git pull
[08:04] Already up-to-date.
[08:04] [US.HSG 1]::[Mar 25 03:03:47]:~/blackcoin >> git checkout 1.0.2
[08:04] Switched to branch '1.0.2'
[08:04] [US.HSG 1]::[Mar 25 03:03:51]:~/blackcoin >> git pull
[08:04] Already up-to-date.
[08:04] ...
[08:05] yes try this version
[08:05] Its the same version
[08:05] as it says
[08:05] its already up to date.
[08:05] aka nothing changed.
[08:06] compile it and try
[08:06] but... no files changed...
[08:07] it didn't download anything....
[08:08] very odd. I can clearly see it should be out of date. and needs to update
[08:08] but it won.t
[08:08] try a new folder
[08:08] it's ok
[08:08] fresh download fresh pull
[08:09] you know I was gonna go to bed.
[08:09] lol
[08:18] daemoncoin@Cryptorush-Daemons-13:~$ ./blackcoind getbalance ''
[08:18] error: {"code":-2,"message":"Safe mode: URGENT: upgrade required"}
[08:19] yeah
[08:19] not gonna work like that now is it
[08:20] so now what rat4..
[08:20] I can't even get anyones balance now.
[08:21] one moment
[08:22] I don't have much longer.. its 4:21 am and I need sleep.
[08:22] pull again now it should work :-)
[08:23] and now to wait 2 hours for a compile again :/
[08:27] • Devianttwo is now known as Devianttwo|AFK.
[08:32] Well
[08:33] now the balance is showing correct except we have one major problem
[08:33] we are missing about 22 million coins. from people cashing out what they didn't have.
[08:33] let me just verify
[08:33] I don't see how thats possible
[08:35] never mind thats wrong. just hold on.
[08:35] let me get the data.
[08:37] -1554503.10052230 thats how much was stolen
[08:37] 1621127.49692041
[08:37] thats how much we should have.
[08:37] and we only have 62k
[08:39] rat4.
[08:39] I can now also confirm
[08:39] the missing 1.5m blackcoins
[08:39] where withdrawn right after we updated our client
[08:39] the moment we went live people started withdrawing what they didn't have.
[08:40] and I have no clue how that happened.
[08:41] Update: 1.8 million coins where withdrawn from the moment we went live again
[08:41] 1.55 million of which was stolen from the wallet due to that wierd balance glitch
[08:42] literally if I change wallets the balance breaks instantly
[08:43] rat4 are you there?
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[08:46] wb rat
[08:46] did you get our messages?
[08:46] last msg Devianttwo|AFK: and I have no clue how that happened
[08:46] [4:37am] -1554503.10052230 thats how much was stolen
[08:46] [4:37am] 1621127.49692041
[08:46] [4:37am] thats how much we should have.
[08:46] [4:37am] and we only have 62k
[08:46] Our negatives balance is -1,554,503.10052230 BC
[08:46] our possitives are 1,621,127.49692041 BC
[08:47] Our daemon balance is 68k
[08:47] we had 1.8 million BC withdrawn from the moment that we reopened the site.
[08:47] and almost every single withdrawal
[08:47] is from an account that is now negative.
[08:47] which means the daemon balances where dispalying incorrectly in order for that to happen. I also confirmed that account '' says it should have 22million coins in it now
[08:47] rather then -22million
[08:48] like it did originally
[08:48] even though theres no 22 million BC's on our site.
[08:48] so what do we do from here? how we gonna go about fixing this issue.
[08:50] i see these numbers, what do you expect from me?
[08:51] Not sure. all I'm saying is we used your code. and now we are missing 1.5 million BC's
[08:51] so........
[08:51] Basically we are back to the Zeit situation.
[08:51] all over again.
[08:51] this is over 100 btc worth of currency.
[08:51] theres no possible way we can take responsibility for that happening.
[08:51] and apparently someone said another site had the same issue.
[08:52] http://blackcoinpool.com/ apparently bugged out as well.
[08:53] anyways. I'm gonna have you and link talk this out and find out what we need to do about this. cause this is rediculous honestly. Everytime we patch lately someone shoots the daemon code and breaks it. No Offense but its just getting old now. First Teslacoin. then battlecoin. then Zeitcoin. now yall.
[08:54] I'm heading to bed. yall please get this solved.
[08:58] yes rat4 please offer up as much compensation as possible, this could ruin us
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[09:10] I don't have anything comparable with this, so far I got less than 40k from donations
[09:10] rat4, Im killing your coin.
[09:10] ok
[09:10] from the altcoin-scene.
[09:10] not just cryptorush - but all the exchanges
[09:10] your coin is a scamcoin and a virus
[09:11] and I will make sure you pay us back from your own money - sell your house, your car or whatever
[09:11] You have my word on that.
[09:11] Linkandzelda, send out tweets to everyone - make them know who to blame for this fucking mess
[09:12] Name, Number, the whole fucking thing
[09:13] Its because of idiots like rat4 that we have made a draft to exclude shitcoins made by developers who dont know what the fuck they are doing
[09:13] and rat4 - you owe us some serious bitcoins for your fucking shitjob - and you will pay
[09:14] 100s of bitcoins - and I WILL HAVE MY MONEY BACK!!!! - I AM NOT FUCKING PLAYING GAMES WITH YOU!!!
[09:14] COOPERATE OR I WILL PAY SOMEONE TO BEAT YOU TO DEATH! - YOU FUCKING THIEF!!! - YOU READ ME??? - I WILL PAY SOMEONE TO GET MY MONEY BACK FROM YOU!!!
[09:15] MAKE A FUCKING STATEMENT AND STAND UP FOR YOURSELF AND APOLOGIZE - FIGURE OUT A FUCKING WAY TO PAY BACK THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AFFECTED BY YOUR FUCKING VIRUS-TROJAN-WALLET-FUCKING-SHIT-WORK!!!!
[09:18] fyrstikken can you be so kind to say who are you?
[09:19] see - thats why your coin was doomed from the start
[09:20] you dont even know who I am - yet you made a coin and had it listed on my exchange
[09:20] you made a coin and my people in #fyrstikken bought it
[09:21] you made a wallet that my exchange lost money on
[09:21] that makes me your biggest creditor
[09:21] thats who I am
[09:23] You have single-handedly destroyed hours of expencive mining-powers from big rigs around the world - spent resources for millions of dollars worth of equipment and wasted thousands of peoples time and money making this fucking blowjob of a shitcoin
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[09:24] you better make a fucking deal - or you will be working for me until every single penny is paid back
[09:25] and if you wont work for me - forget working at all, Ill finnish you.
[09:26] one way or another you are paying us back.
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[09:26] forget about your coin - concider the value of your life and health for being such a thief
[09:27] blackcoin was not a fucking error - it was a fucking trojan-virus designed to steal money
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[09:28] ??
[09:29] • hawkalator_bbl is now known as hawkalator.
[09:29] Its a fucking ProofOfMistake Coin
[09:29] what makes you say that
[09:30] rat4, made a wallet that steals blackcoins
[09:30] Cryptorush use that wallet
[09:30] rat4 stole all your blackcoins
[09:30] umm i still got all my blackcoins
[09:31] you wont be able to exchange them - we are killing it
[09:31] they are worthless
[09:31] all altcoins are worthless, its the community that drives them
[09:32] no - I mean - I am killing the coin
[09:32] you mean those sent to CR while error F?
[09:32] from the scene
[09:32] The BlackCoin will no longer be a tradable currency - all the value is 0
[09:32] it is a virus-coin and the dev of blackcoin made it
[09:33] the wallet was designed to steal money from its users
[09:33] so if you hold blackcoin - Im sorry - but until the dev pay us back what he stole from cryptorush - about 100 BTC or so worth of BC - BC will no longer exist
[09:34] and the Dev will also no longer exist if he try something stupid - like not paying us back.
[09:34] or try to run away
[09:35] who in the right mind does trading on cryptorush ?
[09:35] he is gonna fix this - and pay us back - and apologize and he is gonna be a fucking example to scare anyone who ever try to make another shitscamviruscoin again.
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[09:41] any proof of this?
[09:41] yes
[09:41] no prove
[09:41] Well none
[09:41] nothing
[09:41] This is full of shit
[09:41] the dev has admit the mistake he did
[09:41] i took snpa shots, i will keep it in case the developers will need it for a law suit, i'm out of here for now
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[09:41] and if he dont solve it, he'll be knifed
[09:42] You're just an ignorant prick
[09:42] law-suit my ass
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[09:42] A lousy dev and a prick =D
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[09:42] show me where the dev admitted it loll
[09:42] he just stole 100s of bitcoins worth of blackcoins from everyone - and I will make sure he pay us all back
[09:42] KBomba changed the topic to
[09:42] BETA
[09:42] Ever heard of that?
[09:43] KthxBBBAAAAAAII
[09:43] how did he steal 100s of BTC
[09:43] hawkalator I have the full log of this chat since I joined
[09:43] paste it
[09:43] It was an issue with CryptoRushes implementation of it and the way they used accounts from their daemon---this is the statement
[09:43] let us see
[09:43] Linkandzelda, put it up on pastebin and put it on topic
[09:43] KBomba changed the topic to fyrstikken is a lousy dev and an ignorant prick =D
[09:43] hey fyr
[09:44] DogeyMcDoge changed the topic to .
[09:44] only Cryptorush has a problem

CRYPTORUSH REALLY? I HOPE YOUR WEBSITE GETS FUCKED AGAIN YOU STUPID INCOMPETENT FUCKS TRYING TO BLAME THE DEV? Huh

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEV YOU STUPID FUCKS, LEARN TO FUCKING MAKE A WEBSITE, IT FEELS AS IF IM USING A WEBSITE MADE BY 6YEAR OLD CHILD.
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Quote from: drm on March 25, 2014, 11:49:49 AM

so why are all btc withdrawals locked?

+1. They keep giving updates on Twitter that everything has been resolved and can process withdrawls, but every attempt I make gives an error message.

This needs to be resolved immediately.

hoju2k

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I deposited yesterday 10k BC on your exchange. I had 0 BC at that time in your site. I didn't make any trades nor withdrawals. Can I have my coins back?

eightspaces

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The spirit of Cryptorush:

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[09:13] and rat4 - you owe us some serious bitcoins for your fucking shitjob - and you will pay
[09:14] 100s of bitcoins - and I WILL HAVE MY MONEY BACK!!!! - I AM NOT FUCKING PLAYING GAMES WITH YOU!!!
[09:14] COOPERATE OR I WILL PAY SOMEONE TO BEAT YOU TO DEATH! - YOU FUCKING THIEF!!! - YOU READ ME??? - I WILL PAY SOMEONE TO GET MY MONEY BACK FROM YOU!!!

R.I.P Cryptorush. That was a quick death of your shit exchange

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Quote from: CartGeezer on March 25, 2014, 11:41:10 AM

Quote from: illodin on March 25, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

CryptoRush: release a list of all users who withdrew more than they had deposited and bought. Usernames, emails, all ip addresses they have logged in from etc. You have that info logged right?

I'll second that.

Send them all emails first and demand they deposit enough to cover the negative balance or cryptorush.in will hire somebody to kill them.

drm

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so why are all btc withdrawals locked?

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Quote from: CartGeezer on March 25, 2014, 11:41:10 AM

Quote from: illodin on March 25, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

CryptoRush: release a list of all users who withdrew more than they had deposited and bought. Usernames, emails, all ip addresses they have logged in from etc. You have that info logged right?

I'll second that.

+1

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The only chance this exchange has any chance now at surviving... is to make a public statement of apology AND return all funds (even if using money earned from the trades). It would be tedious, but worthwhile to manually go thru the logs and see who withdrew to many coins.

Any other option, and that $500k is gone and so is Cryptorush.

After reading the chat logs, and seeing that nobody else had the same issue, reason stands that the coding on cryptorush website is either A.) works perfectly and Cryptorush stole the money or B.) Cryptorush coding was not adequate and they truely had the coins stolen. Either way, they are responsible. If they do not proceed to return funds, they better file for Chapter 15 bankruptcy protection because a big class action lawsuit is coming. And fyrstikken publicly threatened the BC creator... which is jail time if the courts find out. So he better make amends quickly, then quietly go away because the BC creator doesn't even need to press charges for him to be arrested since it is publicly out there now.

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Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AM

Quote from: eightspaces on March 25, 2014, 11:34:36 AM

Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:33:05 AM

I really hope that I have not lost all my blackcoins. Huh

you lost them, sorry. It's Cryptorush's fault

Thats kind of sad. I don't have all this high powered mining equipment. So in order to make a little change on cryptocurrency is to get in early. I bought quite a few at 2300. That was dirt cheap. They still are dirt cheap. But to lose em is sad.

That is sad.

I lost some coins in coinex, but nearly lost a ton and was lucky to get them out before it got hacked. Know how you feel!

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Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AM

Quote from: eightspaces on March 25, 2014, 11:34:36 AM

Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:33:05 AM

I really hope that I have not lost all my blackcoins. Huh

you lost them, sorry. It's Cryptorush's fault

Thats kind of sad. I don't have all this high powered mining equipment. So in order to make a little change on cryptocurrency is to get in early. I bought quite a few at 2300. That was dirt cheap. They still are dirt cheap. But to lose em is sad.

It's extremely sad and I am sorry for you. FUCK Cryptorush, FUCK Fyrstikken

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Quote from: mixan on March 25, 2014, 11:09:37 AM

users will see refund since cryptorush has proven them selves to be honest more than once Before, lots of devils here

or they will do what they did with zeit and blame a fork wich never happened

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Quote from: illodin on March 25, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

CryptoRush: release a list of all users who withdrew more than they had deposited and bought. Usernames, emails, all ip addresses they have logged in from etc. You have that info logged right?

I'll second that.

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Quote from: eightspaces on March 25, 2014, 11:34:36 AM

Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:33:05 AM

I really hope that I have not lost all my blackcoins. Huh

you lost them, sorry. It's Cryptorush's fault

Thats kind of sad. I don't have all this high powered mining equipment. So in order to make a little change on cryptocurrency is to get in early. I bought quite a few at 2300. That was dirt cheap. They still are dirt cheap. But to lose em is sad.

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Quote from: mrwalker1750 on March 25, 2014, 11:33:05 AM

I really hope that I have not lost all my blackcoins. Huh

you lost them, sorry. It's Cryptorush's fault

mrwalker1750

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I really hope that I have not lost all my blackcoins. Huh

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Quote from: Janezki on March 25, 2014, 11:31:08 AM

Free tip for the CryptoRush-team:
Take your coats and leave, nobody in their right mind will be doing any business with the names linked to CryptoRush, ever.

Indeed

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Free tip for the CryptoRush-team:
Take your coats and leave, nobody in their right mind will be doing any business with the names linked to CryptoRush, ever.

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Bitcoin Evengelist

Wow

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Quote from: savale on March 25, 2014, 10:01:28 AM

Any chance I get my BC back? Huh

I never got my Zeit back, sooo I'm going with a negative ghostrider on this one.

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