btw, regarding the concerns for their domain
i have a theory as to why they are using an anonymized service and only one year for the domain registry.
they have mentioned that their webserver is run in their office
so the service they use really is just a proxy to their webserver
since they need the bitcoind service running this makes sense
ive also been bruteforcing the directorys on their webserver and can confirm its certainly not something from a host, its quite weak in handling lots of requests.
id imagine they would want to relocate and possibly change domain registrar in the near future once they are official.
Topic: Official CedarTec Topic - New ASIC [Scam?] - page 42. (Read 43050 times)
im not trying to get anyone to buy, unless ofcourse they need more pre-orders to mass produce.
at this point im not really sure, they did say the pre-order really is just to test the public and that the 1000 number is really just an upper limit. They mention further plans after the pre-orders and selling the left over units.
you know how jelly all those bfl customers will be if cedartec is not a scam?
its really in my interest that no else buy more units, theyd be diluting my profits.
at the same time i want them to succeed, its either they are a scam to begin with, or are a scam upon some failure or actually deliver. i loose if they are a scam and i loose if they fail.
at this point im not really sure, they did say the pre-order really is just to test the public and that the 1000 number is really just an upper limit. They mention further plans after the pre-orders and selling the left over units.
you know how jelly all those bfl customers will be if cedartec is not a scam?
its really in my interest that no else buy more units, theyd be diluting my profits.
at the same time i want them to succeed, its either they are a scam to begin with, or are a scam upon some failure or actually deliver. i loose if they are a scam and i loose if they fail.
Altho i should wait for them to follow through with their promises, that would mean loosing my position tho.
So given the risks(well aware) im thinking of going through with my second purchase.
So given the risks(well aware) im thinking of going through with my second purchase.
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you aren't a throwaway acct designed to drum up sales.
That being said, you may want to take a look at this.
http://doyoudaveramsey.com/howtodefendagainstsneakysalestactics/
been member lurker since june 2011
granted i would assume the same thing, how can i prove i am an independent agent acting on my own "free will" (no such thing in this deterministic universe)
granted i would assume the same thing, how can i prove i am an independent agent acting on my own "free will" (no such thing in this deterministic universe)
interesting to read some nice comments from a user with 23 posting, how much credibility can he get? may be he is working for their company?
Where 6 posts where in the Newbies forum and 17 postings about CedarTec. 
interesting to read some nice comments from a user with 23 posting, how much credibility can he get? may be he is working for their company?
im 4 hours away from potentially sending them more bitcoins
should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
My opinion is this has scam written all over it. As horribly as bfl has performed, they still have a better track record than this company. should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
I think you saw a shiny website and some smooth words and got blinded by dollar signs.
I wouldn't send them a penny.
As far as being jealous, check my sig...
not saying anyone is jelly, im saying people may potentially be negatively contributing intentionally due to reason of personal gain from such action.
their website is not well made, im a web developer.
the specs coincide with whats possible given 65nm process.
they have been replying to my concerns in due time and have followed through partially to my demand.
I say partially because the resulting images and video where quickly done without full regard of need to publish something that will not cast doubt.
I requested they use eligius.st, they say they will get public livestats up.
Altho i should wait for them to follow through with their promises, that would mean loosing my position tho.
So given the risks(well aware) im thinking of going through with my second purchase.
im 4 hours away from potentially sending them more bitcoins
should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
My opinion is this has scam written all over it. As horribly as bfl has performed, they still have a better track record than this company. should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
I think you saw a shiny website and some smooth words and got blinded by dollar signs.
I wouldn't send them a penny.
As far as being jealous, check my sig...
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
Caveat emptor.
im 4 hours away from potentially sending them more bitcoins
should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
should i?
they have gone further then both butterflylabs and avalon did in their first months.
manufacturing 65nm asic chips no longer costs millions, its a 8 year old process.
they plan on assembling 100 pcb a week
they currently have potentially enough for the mass production, i assume they have had additional investments before going public
only 2-3weeks until release, low cost for high hashrate
im buying with a friend, so the cost is negligible for such good potential returns
some of you have an interest in them not delivering, bfl clients, gpu miners or simply jelly
im currently locked in at 7.9btc
seems all coins arriving to this address https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam?
?
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam?
?There is no way those people conned 405,500.2006404 BTC out of potential customers.
That's an asinine amount of money. Or are there just that many suckers ?
No cluce but trace it go fro mthe address person above said paid to and look where it goes
https://blockchain.info/address/12AAdcQPitiWmkJFm5FkjFeGWN5DKr53tc
payment out to for 6.2BTC
https://blockchain.info/address/1JjD2Y29xY3LhSDJWj1VJUBVUaa7C47tUF
now we look at that and both payments gone to
1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
then sort order https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26?sort=1
thats a bucket of transactions coming from a hell of a lot of wallets.
then we have https://blockchain.info/address/1BTC24yVKQdQNAa4vX71xLUC5A8Za7Rr71
Even so theri going to bitcoin 24 all address going to same thing and i do not like what i see.
pretty much all related and going back to bitcoin 24 so who knows. All i know is thats a lot of bitocoin going though them addresses in short time. I know am not investing in this until theirs proof of working units in people hands as i do not trust this and theirs already photos poping up for other products using same cases just with the stuff different and can easly be photo shopped lol
anyway will be interesting to see how things go on here
seems all coins arriving to this address https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam??
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam?
?There is no way those people conned 405,500.2006404 BTC out of potential customers.
That's an asinine amount of money. Or are there just that many suckers ?
thats bitcoin-24 inputs
my order was sent to a cedartec owned address and then it went through an empty address (bitcoin-24 cedartec account address generated at each deposit) then went to bitcoin-24 internals.
seems all coins arriving to this address https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam??
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam?
?There is no way those people conned 405,500.2006404 BTC out of potential customers.
That's an asinine amount of money. Or are there just that many suckers ?
seems all coins arriving to this address https://blockchain.info/address/1AnixjBYxpTzAmfSa8kRdBiUaSGV2e9d26
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam??
Total Received 405,500.2006404 BTC
then going out to
https://bitcoin-24.com/
make your own conclusion here people highly suspect my view. Creator of this rig how about I come to your business we meet in person you show me working product I then buy off you and then close the case of scam?
? From my research at the time of payment, they cash out every order as soon as possible at bitcoin-24.com
Their process should have changed now that bitcoin-24.com accounts were shut down in poland.
https://blockchain.info/address/12AAdcQPitiWmkJFm5FkjFeGWN5DKr53tc
I have order 008X
Their process should have changed now that bitcoin-24.com accounts were shut down in poland.
https://blockchain.info/address/12AAdcQPitiWmkJFm5FkjFeGWN5DKr53tc
I have order 008X
Wait, you gave them money?
I see a 24pin mobo connection only,good for about 150 watts @12 volt & the consumption is 200 watts Not gonna work is it
I'm sure these guys aren't for real too,but "in theory",would it
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html
A little more than half way down on that page.
Not gonna work is it I'm sure these guys aren't for real too,but "in theory",would it
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html
A little more than half way down on that page.
Its 20pin, and can support up to 251Watt in total over 3.3v, 5v and 12v combined.
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#atxmain20
From my research at the time of payment, they cash out every order as soon as possible at bitcoin-24.com
Their process should have changed now that bitcoin-24.com accounts were shut down in poland.
https://blockchain.info/address/12AAdcQPitiWmkJFm5FkjFeGWN5DKr53tc
I have order 008X
Their process should have changed now that bitcoin-24.com accounts were shut down in poland.
https://blockchain.info/address/12AAdcQPitiWmkJFm5FkjFeGWN5DKr53tc
I have order 008X
I guess what I am driving at, is how they define pre-orders? They sent me an e-mail stating my order.. Am I one of those 140?
I pre-ordered, but haven't paid. They send you a bitcoin address, with 24hrs to pay it. I presume it's unique to me, as that's how they will know I have paid.
I checked the blockchain, and there have been no transactions .
I checked the blockchain, and there have been no transactions .
Yeah that's not a pre-order, but "24 hours" where they freeze your BTC quote which is 'accurate' at the time you order. Due to market volatility they supposedly can't hold for longer...pfff!
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