(and no shares would get paid double).
Huh? What?
I get the first part but how can a miner submit "No Shares" and get paid?
Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.0 - page 455. (Read 5805537 times)
November 04, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
Huh? What?
I get the first part but how can a miner submit "No Shares" and get paid?
November 04, 2012, 01:35:15 PM
(and no shares would get paid double).
Huh? What?
November 04, 2012, 02:40:15 AM
So ASIC support will be in 4-6 weeks? Or are you talking of availability of asics?
It's a joke, for the longest time BFL shipment time for the Singles was listed as 4 to 6 weeks despite being months late.
November 04, 2012, 02:31:59 AM
Con, can you tell us anything about the progress with BFL ASIC support? Please choose one of the following:
1. I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2. I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3. I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4. I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5. I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6. I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.
No NDA, no physical hardware, no remote access, not even a protocol document to work from. Nothing has been done yet. Will start once I at least get protocol docs.1. I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2. I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3. I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4. I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5. I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6. I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.
Sometime next year I'm thinking
No it will be in 4 to 6 weeks.
So ASIC support will be in 4-6 weeks? Or are you talking of availability of asics?
November 03, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google 
) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?
Thanks
In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a difficulty 2 share).) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?Thanks
The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.
Thanks this makes sense and I understood that share difficulty of 2 would only be accepted and share diff of 1 will be rejected as I see that cgminer has a message called "Old Difficulty" meaning it can not be submitted or it will be rejected.
(and no shares would get paid double).
Huh? What?
November 02, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
This was already made obvious in the context though.
It wasn't obvious to me in your post, and Davinci asked while clueless, so I' not sure what context you are referring to, but my post was simply a "better safe than sorry" type post. To be fair, after re-reading your post, I think adding only the bolded word "minimum" would have made it obvious to me (though still not well-worded). 
November 02, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?
Thanks
In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a share when the pool is requiring a minimum difficulty 2 share).) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?Thanks
The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.
November 02, 2012, 04:03:00 PM
Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?
Thanks
In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a share when the pool is requiring a minimum difficulty 2 share).) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?Thanks
The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.
November 02, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
Con, can you tell us anything about the progress with BFL ASIC support? Please choose one of the following:
1. I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2. I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3. I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4. I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5. I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6. I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.
No NDA, no physical hardware, no remote access, not even a protocol document to work from. Nothing has been done yet. Will start once I at least get protocol docs.1. I can't talk about it, I'm under NDA.
2. I've logged in remotely to their servers and have poked around a little.
3. I've logged in remotely and have already begun creating code for BFL's ASIC to work with cgminer.
4. I have no plans to log in remotely to BFL and won't do anything until they send me some real hardware.
5. I have real hardware in hand and am working on the code.
6. I won't support BFL ASIC because I won't develop for them for free and they haven't paid me yet.
Sometime next year I'm thinking
No it will be in 4 to 6 weeks.
November 02, 2012, 02:45:07 PM
Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?
Thanks
In "Diff x/x," the first number is the difficulty that the share achieved and the second number is the minimum difficulty that the pool will accept. The second number might change around a bit if you use a pool that supports variable difficulty, however you should get paid for multiple difficulty 1 shares (for example, you get paid for two difficulty 1 shares every time you submit a difficulty 2 share).) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?Thanks
The "Best share" line is the highest difficulty share you've found since you last started cgminer. If your best share is higher than the current network difficulty (~3,300,000), you found a block for the network.
November 02, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
Sorry for not reading the thread to find this but searches turned up nothing (should of used google ) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?
Thanks
) but I am wondering what does "Best Share" mean and what does Diff 2/2 or Diff 1.5k/2 mean?Thanks
November 02, 2012, 02:04:56 PM
All my life my computers are always doing something so they are always on. They last for years and years and years with almost no problems. 6 months of always on should never kill anything unless it is running abnormally hot.
Me too, but that one misterious card has been very tricky. So far good with lowered clock frequencies.
November 01, 2012, 11:39:46 PM
Botnets have been mining so they flag pretty much all miners as a trojan because they assume you didn't install it intentionally.
November 01, 2012, 09:33:58 PM
I need some help here anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too
You can take the dll file from latest bfgminer, that should be recompiled so that anti virus programs don't give false positives.
November 01, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
I need some help here anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too
It is indeed a false positive. If you are unsure you can always download the latest source from ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/ and build it using the instructions in the included windows-build.txt file. It takes less than 30 minutes to set up your MinGW build environment. I'm assuming you are talking about the Windows version of Cgminer because most people that complain about it are Windows users.
If the download site does not work and you have those build instructions you could use git to download it as well.
CK, maybe it would fend off these kind of posts if your downloads links for windows binaries first went to a warning page that warns in bold that a false positive on their AV software could happen. As we know a lot of people do not read the README file first. Some people could be running a really old version that never got flagged and then upgraded not thinking that they needed to read the README. I know it would be a PITA to add that extra step, but maybe it would cut down the frustration for both you and the people that don't bother to take the time to read the README.
Edit: libpdcurses.dll Doh... of course it is Windows. I did not need to assume anything, it was all right there in your post.
November 01, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
I need some help here anti virus seems to be detecting libpdcurses.dll as a key logger is this a false positive as its also been reported elsewhere on ltc forums that its a keylogger and i goggled this and also thrown up a zillion pages for been a keylogger too
Readme file. Read it. Yes, it is a false positive. 
November 01, 2012, 10:42:38 AM
i can not tell about seti or folding, but a server usually does almost nothing (file or email), rendering does use the components, but not as heavy as mining, at least what i have tried.
November 01, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
I do 3D and my computer is rendering most of the time. When I'm not rendering it's folding@home or seti@home or running as a server etc.
November 01, 2012, 08:43:24 AM
@tiberiandusk:
ask Google how short lived usual Server HDDs are.
They have lots of thousands of them, and they saw what the datasheet numbers really meant.
Also, your computers may be powered 24/7 but i doubt they have to do work full load like mining is.
Since few years the hardware mostly sleeps and turns a lot of unneeded parts off, and wakes them up in milliseconds if needed.
That induces stress in the capacitors and the power supply, but on the other hand reduces heat and overall current consumption, which makes the stress wear less.
ask Google how short lived usual Server HDDs are.
They have lots of thousands of them, and they saw what the datasheet numbers really meant.
Also, your computers may be powered 24/7 but i doubt they have to do work full load like mining is.
Since few years the hardware mostly sleeps and turns a lot of unneeded parts off, and wakes them up in milliseconds if needed.
That induces stress in the capacitors and the power supply, but on the other hand reduces heat and overall current consumption, which makes the stress wear less.
November 01, 2012, 08:11:07 AM
All my life my computers are always doing something so they are always on. They last for years and years and years with almost no problems. 6 months of always on should never kill anything unless it is running abnormally hot.
6 months should regularly kill things if you have enough of them.It's called variance.
Yes I have computers that are on 24/7 and all the servers for my clients are on 24/7
Once in a while something fails among all that hardware ...
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