Topic: Official FutureBit Apollo BTC Software/Image and Support thread - page 132. (Read 48543 times)

If/when an SSD change is needed does the drive need to be formatted first or would a brand new drive just swap in?

Ok so it has successfully booted, your just not getting an internet connection. Id double check your ethernet wire (ie check if you plugged it in a WAN port instead of LAN port) and router settings in case something is not configured correctly there.

Right now, the Ethernet port only has the green light flashing.   On the bottom of the SBC, I have a green led (near the side of the ports) and there is a red LED in the corner by the M.2 drive card.   

I will check the monitor next - have to go find a long HDMI cable and/or another monitor.   

Are the yellow LEDs on the bottom flashing rapidly? This means its connected to your network and hashing.

If so you need to do double check your router or IP scanner, one of the IPs is the Apollo.

For monitor out issues, try powering off your display and power it back on when its connected to HDMI port on the Apollo, this has worked on some displays we tested. Some displays won't work at all, so try another display if you have one or your TV and see if it works that way.

I received my base unit and an add-on hashing unit today.   I have both powered by a external server power supply.   The external unit was attached to the main unit.   The external unit's front LED started flashing right away, but no lights from the main unit's front LED.   I have an ethernet cable plugged into the base unit and it's lights were flashing, but nothing ever displayed on the HDMI display.   I let if it boot for several minutes and the main unit got warm - fan was working and I could see one RED and one green (flashing) LEDs on the main units hashboard.   This matched what LED's were lit on the add-on hashing unit.    I checked my router and saw no new DHCP devices getting an address.    The cable & switch port worked with a PC before moving the cable to the Apollo BTC.

Any thoughts?

If I could I would. The backend software runs Exahashes worth of hashrate, and finds BTC blocks everyday. Of course you have to take my word for it, and I wish you didn't but I think I have built enough reputation around here that im not some bad actor. Unfortunately to be able to provide a product like this I had to make some compromises I did not want, but we weighed those to be worth being able to get a product like this out to market.

Of course the more successful this product is, the less compromises we have to make...would love to port the firmware over to cgminer and hopefully we can get there soon.

The software is designed for stratum pool implementation. Its not a solo miner, and the solo miner implementation will piggy off open source stratum proxy that connects directly to the node.

Prove how my statement is completely false? Oh wait you cant. As long as our software submits valid shares > pool diff then it will submit a valid share > network diff.

If you want to attack me then attack me with correct arguments, like "since the software is closed sourced I could be throwing out valid shares >= network diff"

Now that im thinking about it that would be a fun way to attack these centralized chinese pools 

So before you deployed this you went out and got enough miners and mined till your new code found a block?
Otherwise how do we know that you didn't make a mistake somewhere and the fact that your pool has not found a block in 10+ months is because it can't find one due to buggy code.

When you and Luke had your fight years ago I actually figured you were in the right, but since I really don't like people who push religion my view might have been skewed.
Then you had the falling out with CK-
Now you are here campaigning against someone who is making hardware.

I'm really starting to think it's you.

Things I CAN say 100% about the products that  @jstefanop makes
1) The Apollo CAN find blocks for lower difficulty SHA coins that are compiled against older versions of bitcoin. Can't speak to 20.x +
2) His Scrypt miners found blocks with no issues.

Also, this is a support thread. If you have an issue post in the other thread.

-Dave

it has the option to stop the node anytime you want to .

there is a screen in the gui

it has a dashboard for the node
open the node dashboard
once opened the option to stop it is below the dashboard option on the left.

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The best way to mine with this is not solo mining
The best way is to point it to viabtc.com pick a high payout and mine and hold.

Here is why:  you will get some coin this way.  Whether it goes up in price is the bet.

Mining solo with this is not very smart. Here is why. it does 2-3 th

2th is 46 cents a day
3th is 69 cents a day

lets say

set to 3th
day 1             =  $0.69
day 10           =  $6.90
day 100         =  $69.00
day 1000       =  $690.00
day 10000     =  $6900.00  this is 27 years and 4 months I would be 91
day 100000   =  $69000.00 this is 270 years + and is about 1/3 of a block assuming no 1/2ings or difficulty rising.

as I kept the difficulty flat and did not account for the 1/2 ing

so mining solo is pretty much futile

but look at mine and hodl

at day 1000  $690 is pretty much going to happen and a price spike will make your machine a winner.

I did this with the ltc Apollo I hit a solo doge block with 10,000 coins and held it in fact I decided to hodl doge for years and I made more than 50000 cashing my doge out this year

As I said if you understand the law of the USA and not China or Australia proving these can hit blocks has no meaning or application.  "ie innocent until proven guilty"

These have proven to hit shares that pools accept.
So point to viabtc and mine and hodl

and you will bank coin which could go up in value.

Okay here are 2 screen shots at viabtc
The Apollo is pointed to BCH
There was some dust but it is adding coin as I type
I used BCH which is a sha-256 alt since I have miners pointed to the btc pool and did not want to mix
as you can see the miner is mining and adding coins
I will post it again to show the coins grow
this miner will certainly grow your coins if you point to viabtc.com and set a high payout.
I did 0.1 BCH which is around 65 to 66 usd. about 150 days set to eco.

But can is too little here, it has to.
You can ask slush pool and Genesis mining about that stuff

So here my question again:


I like the product. Bring mining back to small people, decentralized, quiet etc. Would be happy to support the project and preorder.
But for sure I will not buy a closed source miner, which has never shown that it can find blocks.
Especially not if it is to be used for solomining. (Whether this is right for the target group "are first time miners" is another question.)

I really don't see any understandable reason not to publish the code.

Alas this statement is completely false and thus shows that indeed these miners have not been tested to be able to find blocks.
The usual worry about people who don't understand what they are doing and are only looking for profit.
Even phil has made an attempt at understanding the issue in his post above, but alas not quite got it right.

Edit: I wrote the first, original block testing screen notification code in cgminer
I think I might know what I'm talking about ...

Ahh thats where phillip's confusing question comes from in the other thread....should have known better. 

So we went from me making shitty vaporware, to me selling pre-orders ill probably never deliver, to now that I have actually delivered working hardware making baseless attacks on the software that make no sense? Whats your agenda here anyway?

From someone who runs a pool its pretty concerning that you dont know how blocks are found. If our software can submit a valid share to a pool, it can also find a valid block and thats all the proof you need. But you already know that or should know that...so once again whats your agenda?

edit 1:
Well If I point this to a solo btc pool the math says it will take a long time at 2th to hit a block.

This section is for btc not alt sha-256 coins which have lower difficulty.

If it hit a block in BHA it only proves that it can do a difficulty of   13.82gh
if it hit a block in BSV it only proves that it can do a difficulty of  109.70gh
if it hit a block in BCH it only proves that it can do a difficulty of  370.34gh
if it hit a block in BTC Kano's issue is done. as it would be over 21050.00gh or 21.05th

since 1 unit does 2th on eco or 46 cents

and 1,000 units or 2,000th  on eco is 460 usd a day it is very likely we won't see a block ever be hit.

10,000 units or 20,000 on eco is 4600usd a day

a block is about 230,000 usd or roughly 500 days if there are 10000 of these mining at ckpool or kano solopool

frankly this is better suited to be pointed at viabtc with a payout set to 0.01 btc

just mine and hold for a few years.

let someone else try to find a block with it.



edit 2:
As I understand you can't prove it will hit a block of difficulty of 21th until it hits it. Am I correct?

which means 10000 of these could do it in 500 days with normal luck  correct?

feel free to correct my math as I am not very good at it.


edit 3:

I remember diff going past 32gb years ago and some software then failed to be able to hit a block as it shares were capped at 32gb

so I am thinking you do not what share size to be capped anywhere at all or as least many many times higher than 21.05 t

So have they verified that these things can actually find blocks?

That's the other typical issue with people who hack cgminer or write or plagiarizer one.
They leave it up to the people who pay them to test it, and usually no one ever finds out ... which of course can mean the obvious, it doesn't work.

Since they've supposedly written a new miner (yeah I've checked it is definitely not a straight cgminer code copy), clearly it is up to them to verify this before selling something that effectively doesn't work.

Haven't recieved by batch one order yet (1 full, 2 standards) but would like to know in advance

1: Can the full node be disabled (HOW?) at the start (as it's being downloaded) without screwing up the SSD and/or SIM card?

2: If not - can it be disabled after it's downloaded?

I'm planning on doing some other SHA256 mining so I'm assuming that's no problem?

Thanks in advance,

David

Any chance we'll get https for remote sessions in the future?

Not currently, wanted to keep things as simple as possible since a large portion of our customers are first time miners.

If you want to do this in the meantime, you can start up the hashboard manually. Its a little involved but here are the steps:
-Disconnect the usb cable of the hashboard you want to point to a different pool.  
-Start the miner in the dashboard so UI configured pool and connected hashboards start mining to that pool
-Connect the hashboard you want to mine to a different pool
-Open up a terminal and figure out the serial port by typing "ls /dev/ACM*" ....the hashboard you just connected will be the highest number
-Go to the directory the internal apollo-miner is installed at "cd /opt/apolloui/backend/apollo-miner"
-Startup that hashboard manually with the serial port you found above and its own pool using instructions found here:   https://github.com/jstefanop/Apollo-Miner-Binaries/blob/main/linux-aarch64/start_apollo.sh

(ie ./apollo-miner -host us-east.stratum.slushpool.com -port 3333 -user jstefanop.x -pswd x -comport /dev/ttyACM0 -brd_ocp 48  -osc 30 -ao_mode 1)

If you do it this way the hashboard should also be added to the UI stats and you should be able to see it there (fyi i havent tested this so could break the UI if its using a different pool).

We left the system open so you power users can poke around and configure it to your hearts desire...you can also do the above by editing the start script in the miner folder and you can do lots of stuff this way like per board power settings, per board pools, etc etc (all the start script does now is find all the /dev/ACM serials connected and loops through all of them and starts a miner instance for each board using settings from UI....you can just explicitly point to each serial and put your own settings for each board if you want).

                                                                  

Any possibility of being able to add different pools for different hashboards if one has multiple standard units?  I have 1 full package and 3 standard units, so 4 hashboards are all on one pool.  Would be a cool option if I could direct 1 to a different pool/coin and the others to another. 

viabtc .com and set the payout at 0.01 btc which right now is about 350 usd

it will take close to 22 months to get there.

and if btc spikes crazy high in 3 or 4 months just change the payout to 0.001 btc
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Thanks. I bought two full packages. I will set one to the pool you recommended and one to solo ck pool. I have 4 other futurebit LTC miners and so far are mining away with no issues at the kid and grandkids homes. They learning too :-)

Not true.

If your mining at 3TH/s (turbo mode) you have ~ a 1/340,000 daily odds of hitting a BTC block.

Way better odds than the lottery, but of course the cash prize is "only" 200 grand 

Will be adding a direct solo mine option to your node in the coming months.