Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 167. (Read 678353 times)

Heads down I do completely agree
I am wandering if you are American or European?

New attitude of their posts?
Do you care if Bulgarians are happy or if Bulgarian girls are pretty? Or if Bulgarians do pay their tickets? Or all the bullshit bla bla spread here and free stakes also:)

What you do care is:
1. Delivery date of your miner
2. Will it be 5 or 6 module unit. How much TH will you get
3. How much power will it consume very important if you plan to run it at home and you are in US. What psu(s) will be inside over clocking options if any
4. How stable is it
5. Does it work at all - that will be a first thing to ask
Two pictures out of focus makes the so called new attitude I fill sorry for you dude

I agree, the whole 'Made in America' thing is just a marketing gimmick. At the end of the day, would you go with an "American company" if it meant your purchase took 2 or 3 times as long to arrive as the competitions' in China? Probably not, especially in a competitive and time sensitive business like bitcoin mining.

Besides, when I read Josh Zipkin's post I don't think American. I think Bulgarian, using America to make money. There is very little "american-anything" about AMT and their miners. Their updates and communication has been horrid, and so has the build quality and QC of their miners. If anything, their miners look more like something made in a chinese knock-off factory.

Bad business is bad business. If a company is professional and treats their customers with respect, I will give them my money: regardless of where they are located in the world (China/Europe/etc). In this case the fact that AMT is supposedly based out of the U.S.A hasn't done much to get us good updates, communication, or product delivered on time.

AMT

I to would like to give a thumbs up for the pictures and update. It is nice to see signs of production taking place. I think it quells a lot of anxiety around here. Hopefully we will see reports of tracking numbers going out early in the week and you will be on a roll.

I would also like to give 2 thumbs up on your new attitude in your last few post's. Much more professional.

One other suggestion. As you have pointed out and is clear buy the order list that not all of your customers look to this forum for updates. My friend who also bought one of your 1.2th's machines is one of those people. I have been his source of info and am worried about a shoot the messenger type scenario. I would suggest making an e-mail address list of backlogged customers and just give a general update as to the situation and steps you are taking to rectify the problems. Then "send all" and 1 email updates everyone. As orders go out just send out the tracking # and remove their address from that group and your list will be up to date.

I'm sure that would ease your phone issues as well.

Anyway keep up the hard work and lets get some tracking numbers out the door soon

As amt compared them selfs with apple   and they silently admitted most of the work is subcontracted. The only hope for you is they to find right people for the job. Meanwhile time is ticktackingng away. So time will tell if they will found appropriate people at all.
I am starting to wander how they were chosen  to be bitmine partners because:
1. They sold zero coincraft chips
2. They have added Zero to bitmine business in terms of engineering programing or designing terms. Famous AMT engenders are josh and his father probably well known with their engineering skills
3. They have waited long enough to copy bitmine design and despite of bitmine they have not shipped a single nut  
4. While all this happens china borders will flood market with miners ready to mine for 5k almost at chip price. Yeah I know the stolen/legal chip rumors but it will not stop them. Mans this will not stop customers to buy them
5. All the above will drawn their customers and probably amt also. Rio is a fiction
So who cares that reputable US company will be able to make domestic miner delivery in near feature  
Conclusion  .... They a good at Bulgarian psychology and habits, parking tickets and a free stakes
AMT you can make a survey asking the forum members who are most UNsatisfied ASIC customers around the forum
And winner is? BFL or AMT  
All what is left is a good hope and a good will that something gona happen someday

Agreed, it seems like there are only a few of those models out there and in the hands of people. I tried to ask Martin how many bitfury based boards were sold to AMT, but he said he couldn't disclose that information without AMT's approval first. My guess is that it was a very low number of miners, and primarily done to rouse up buyers for the larger upcoming models.

I am surprised that many buyers here are not HORRIFIED that AMT has come on here and asked for help assembling from the community. It just goes to show that they were completely unprepared for the task at hand, and every day that goes by equates to lost BTC. It's a shame, and enough for me to say "Stay away from AMT!"

After all of this, and with the emerging competition of other companies building Coincraft based miners: suggesting others to buy from AMT is very unlikely. I'm sure that won't matter though, people get burned and walk away, and new customers take their place. It's like a revolving door, hopefully this thread will be a lesson to those in the future.

Probably not a bad idea, like YourPalToots did with the "order" thread. Maybe make an AMT Users  thread for when/if people start getting their miners.

I find it disturbing that so few people (even on other fora) have confirmed getting even the bitfury units. Yeah, I know that people are not under any obligation to do so, but for just about every other mfg/brand that has shipped, there are dozens of people talking about their shiny (or not so shiny) machine. THIS is where my problme lies. The machine they gave me (for which I'm grateful) is obsolete. They should have delivered a boatload of 'em, as the price was decent for what it was and they advertised a lot. Where are the wild machines? I've seen about ten from members here, found ref to maybe ten more using google and other fora.

I would very much like to be wrong on this. I WANT AMT to be a good outfit.

While the pictures aren't very focused, I appreciate some sort of update.

Unfortunately I think by the time these things get out the door, they will be vaporware. ISAWHIM is trying to stay positive about mining alternative coins with the miner, but for most I doubt they will see a return.

We still need users to receive them and run them successfully. We aren't out of the woods yet.


AMT_Miners = Joshua Zipkin.

Thank you AMT for the pictures and the responses. Though I still wish you would respond to my emails/phone calls, I understand that you are extremely busy. The only confirmation I have that you exist in material form is from that Eagle National Bank from across the street that told me you were their customer (of which put my mind a little more at ease). The coffee shop and the dental office didn't know anything about you (I called them first) however I did find a guy local that took pictures of your building but didn't take a picture of your business in the building... which would have put my mind significantly at ease... As you said you have hundreds of customers and we are just a few of them, however wouldn't it have been better to take a picture of your business months ago and post it on your website? When I open a new business I'm all about the public eye and take pictures of it for two reasons:

1. Makes it easier for a customer to find you (instead of the several customers that have gone to the adjacent buildings to find out where you are at)

2. It shows you are brick and mortar which would have put almost everyone here at more ease a long time ago (unless you are going for the neg publicity because lets be honest, publicity is publicity and some businesses have thrived on consumer turmoil and been successful but there are very few that could fall into that category).

Just some food for thought AMT. Let me know when you are sending me a check for my overpayment (I know it is a small amount but money is money). Do we have an estimated delivery date on orders 1020-1080? I may just plan a vacation around it.

Thank you.

I mine at tompool.org and megamultipool.com Both have autoswitching pools that payout in BTC vs having to set up individual wallets for each coin type. I'm willing to pay the small fee for that as it makes my life a bit easier.

Me too
The truth is just behind the corner

What, where and how are you going to mine with your amt miner? Alt Coins? Is there a good pool for auto coin switching ?

Thanks for the updates AMT!!

Looking good so far. Excited to see more!!

Thanks man. As much as it is a benefit to you, your experience there will be a side benefit to the rest of us. Hopefully you will have some ability to keep us all updated. Which I think is what we all really want at the end of the day.

Well with the amount of crap being slung around and the unceasing amount of it yea. My goal actually is to start a community that is better moderated. You have a valid point. It is hypocritical of me. BUT when there is ZERO moderation of the community then yea most people including myself will walk away. Gotta pick my battles so to speak. From this particular thread I would have no motivation to stay on it once I got my miners. Point is stick to the topic which is trying to get AMT to post updates while keeping the flamer/trolls away or ignored. that will help this thread get the updates it needs. That is from my understanding the original intent of this thread for updates. Not AMT bashing. There are plenty of other threads and a scam section for that. I like numerous others just want updates. Not ceaseless conspiracies and other things that provide little information on when the miners are arriving.

Alot of times companies use an  external power supply is to avoid having to get a UL listing.

I wonder if it is FCC regulations that require AMT to include a case?

Thanks AMT for the update!!  Keep up it and lets get shipping !!!!

Is the power supply going to fit?

And that update happen after my noise about the power and the bet.and all of a sudden it turned out I lost it. Forum history never lies. You can chek it yourself though.
Good luck with your venture and make sure you do the math and exactly know how much money you have lost because AMT lies and delays
Amt where are my money
And do not forget that 5 module unit in bitmine video was eating 1064w at the wall add 20% on top at least for 1.2 t unit 5 modules
Once again my bet was in at the wall power if you remember you were the one to correct my english
Follow this bet only thread posts and you will see how amt lies just come and go silently
And they twisting things all the way
At the end I expect you as their customers to own them though

The updated specs for the new 1.2THs miners are as follows... (As updated from almost a month ago.)
900w-1200w (Which we requested to be listed as "at the wall" unit-consumption, not post-PSU chip-consumption. Chip-consumption is still 600-900W, I would imagine.)

That is for the 5-module 1.2THs units, I believe. Since the 6-module units are NOT 1.2THs, but 1.5THs units. (And thus, will not consume the same stated power. However, they should, potentially, be able to operate as a 1.2THs miner, consuming less power than the 1.2THs miner. Since the chips would be operating below "normal" settings and there would be more chips.)

There is a power-consumption break-down in another thread, but it uses a highly over-rated PSU which would not be a proper representation of these units actual consumption. Also, he only adjusts the clock frequency, not the voltage, and only takes it down to 68% of the nominal chip-clock-speed. Getting results near 1W/GHs measured at the wall with a 3-card unit on a 1000W PSU which would only be about 60% efficient at that under-rated load. That is not on an AMT board though. (Not sure what exact setup controls they have for the unit.)