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Please send your mail to Josh directly and he'll get back to you, some emails get lost in the sales/orders email.  [email protected]

I live very close to the location that AMT posted as their office address and over the past few months, I sent them several communications volunteering to help assemble their systems. I have a lot of experience assembling computers and swapping out chips and boards. I'm also very familiar with a lot of the popular mining software options(cgminer, bfgminer etc..). In every communication I've stated very clearly that I can start immediately and that the rate of pay is completely at their discretion. So far I've had no response from them. I sent the email to their website, as well as their avatar on this forum. I'm only letting everyone know this because of their post a few pages back saying that they are looking for staff. I of course emailed that address as well to volunteer my services.
So far I've gotten no response, my offer is still on the table. I am still available to start immediately.

I sincerely wish everyone here the best and hope that you receive what you paid for.

AMT_miners if you're serious about needing staff.... PM me, I'm still happy to help.

Step 1: Make it
Step 2: Make it function
Step 3: Make it function better
Step 4: Make it function better, for less
Step 5: Make it function better, for less, faster than the Chinese!

I think Americans like to stop at step 3, until a CEO decides he needs more money, then they do step 4, then the rest of the CEO's decide they want more money and let China do step 5 for them. Which is usually where they die as a company.

<-- American

If you got real desperate for cooling... You could cram a few thin-walled copper pipes (used for ice-makers in fridges), in-between a few slots. Pipe those to a decent water reservoir and radiator from a used dirt-bike, and you are good. (Those are cheaper than the stupid CPU radiators that are all over-priced.)

Like I said, I was going to have fun playing with my units.

P.S. Better to place the radiator outside... Even better if you put it over the AC unit air-flow... Since that pushes a decent flow of desirable air into the radiator, that would also have it's own pulling fan on it. But that is if you had more than one unit. lol. Only "I" would do that for one unit... Just because I could.

My unit would more than likely just end-up in the garage or on the porch, where it is always free natural cooling. Gotta love that humidity! It sucks-up heat from radiating aluminum like it were starving for it! (No, the humidity does not hurt the electronics. Condensation does not settle on hot surfaces, unless the humidity is hotter than the surface itself. 98F is cold to a 105F-180F GPU/CPU/ASIC. )

Also note... Dry home-air is bad for cooling electronics... Great for cooling YOU because you perspire. You have your own water reservoir and you are actually a heat-pipe losing heat through evaporative cooling as your perspiration evaporates into the cool-dry air. You need humidity in the air to help capture the thermal radiation. Water is tuned to capture it better than dry air, but not by much.

That is why we all think fans provide cooling... they cool us... (Actually they just push-away our perspired humidity. A fan in a room, without you in it, actually gets hotter, not cooler. With you in it, it gets even hotter... Ironic! But you feel cooler! Though you would eventually overheat, like being inside a convection oven. Just open a window. lol.)

P.P.S. Ceiling fans are the stupidest invention to run in summer-time... they generate heat and push all the hot air from the ceiling, onto you. Heat radiating from your 205F roof, blasting at you, through the insulation... The 250w motor pissing-out heat... Get a floor fan, where the cool air is at. Much better! Lower wattage too!

That, or soak your hands under the faucet... free cooling 65F... Well, every 50 gallons they charge you a few pennies!

Glad you are going to work there, I would have done same or more.

FCC is fast, like 1 month... Less if you exclude it as a proximity device, or limited operation device. (There is even a free service to apply for you, after they test it.)

But that would only be the board, not the unit. Since the PSU and other components are already FCC approved.

As for heat dissipation... You need only fast air evacuation and a slight turbulence at the cooling-fins with slight positive air-pressure for better thermal transfer. That, or an even evacuation, which requires negative pressure and guided air through shrouds.

The shorter the path, the better. (The optimal design would have been the fins going the other way. Going the length, they pull heat from the front, down to the back, which travels quickly back up to the front, through the heat-sink itself.)

The more fins or surface/area the better, on aluminum's thermal-reflective surface. (Sand-blasting the surface actually helps to increase the surface-area and create some additional turbulence for transferal-time. Rolled micro-slots would be better, like the inside of a water-block.)

With open-air design, most of the air-flow passes right over the unit. However, the thermal reflections have more space to radiate into the highly thermally resistive air. Great if you have a decent reflective design, and not a dissipation or transferal design. This design, however, seems to be a dissipation and transferal design. Indicated by the volume of aluminum used and the parallel fins. For that, you want direct flow in and out, with slight positive pressure in the case. (Not an efficient design, but one that everyone keeps using, for simplicity and cost-savings.)

KNC's secret is the heat-pipes, going to multi-finned radiators that all have independent negative-pressure fans, I believe. That is negated by trapping those individual units within an aluminum box. They are not ones to model as a "good design". That is like 90% of the crappy GPU's that just blow the heat back into the CPU case, with the hope that you have enough case-fans to pull out the power. P.S. Case fans create more heat... From the PSU and from the fan stepper-motor itself. It only pulls-in more dust and that stops the effectiveness of having all those fans in the first-place. Unless you operate in a clean-room with a hepa-filter, down to 0.00001 microns.

No FCC that would take another year to approve.
No server powersupplies ? Delta makes 2000+ watt jobbers @220v (old stock are cheap)
Case to small/crowded for good heat dissipation (look to KNC) for open case standard.
Not a lot in the design makes technical sense to me, I make em butt ugly, however Function is over the top. (see antminer S1 for good design)
PCB looks nice, well spread out.

LOUD NOISES!

Ignore the hate... They have little to contribute to anyone's interest but their own.

On the other hand, I have given-up my vested interest, as I mentioned in the prior posts, so that others gain.

There is actually a bunch of good potential assemblers in the alt-coin forums here. Many of which have previously built many good GPU setups. They too, might be as eager as I, to give you some desired assistance.

I see that as a bonus. One of the few miner companies willing to actually include the bitcoin community directly. However, if this forum thread has shown you one thing, it is that you DO have to be careful who you invite into your home. Anyone can see that an obviously bad person is bad... it is the ones who look good, but are actually bad, that you have to be cautious of.

Don't worry, once I am there, driving around on my solowheel in the city... I will be stopping and talking to everyone. They will all know where I work, how much the thing between my legs costs (the solowheel), and also that I bought it with bitcoins. I get stopped by two-three people every day now. I tell them what I do for a job, then I tell them what I do for a living. They all think about bitcoins after that.

Being horrified that a company is asking for help from any locals is not necessarily a bad thing. Guess on that YMMV in terms of how it can be viewed. If we go on the number of miners sold from first order to the last order number we know of at least 1500. Out of those maybe around 40-50 people have been responding on this thread. If there were so many problems I imagine this thread would have exploded with far more people than just the few participating. The reason I still have some hope this is getting turned around is the fact that there aren't more people in here complaining, that there are only 1 or two complaints on sites where normally you can see hundreds or dozens at the least. Simply put the numbers just don't add up. I use BFL as a comparison point. They have HUNDREDS of complaints unique users complaining their hardware (pre-monarch even) that has not arrived. Here we are looking at most 3 dozen out of a couple thousand. Granted this by itself isn't any kind of evidence or basis for anything. It just an observation based on other incidents like it.  Some pages ago there were some users who claimed they got their miners. But soon as they said that before they could go into any detail (order number and such) they were trolled on as AMT shills.

So yea with the amount of trolling going on of course people will report less. Noone wants to wade in a verbal mess like that unless they have to. I know from my first post here I was considered a shill or an alt account and I am sure those same people still think that. Maybe not. But whatever the case they use my post count or whatever other nonsense to bring down other people who are trying to report back. As has been noted by various others. This community is not very welcoming to start with.

Sadly most other vendors are pretty bad about communicating. Some are worse, and some sadly are actually scams. We have seen this in various threads. AMT as far as I can see is attempting to make it happen. Its obvious from the photos they are working on their miners. They are like pretty much all the other ASIC manufacturers, startups. This is an incredibly new field. less than a year old. Demand has been incredibly high. I don't think there is a single vendor out there getting miners out on time. And for the ones that have onhand supplies it wont take much to see they initially were late also at one point. Now its easy to see alot of used ASICs out there on the market. So the flow is happening. These are essentially 2nd generation machines as they have cleared the 1ths barrier. I figure for at least the next 2-3 years we will see the growing pains diminish. The ONLY companies that will thrive are the ones by that point delivering on hand and on time. Right now thats just starting to be the case. But its not the norm.

1. WE'VE SOLD MANY COINCRAFT CHIPS TO AMERICAN CUSTOMERS, AND ARE STILL SHIPPING THEM ALL THE TIME. MOSTLY BUSINESSES STARTING TO OR TRYING MAKE MINERS, OR PCB HOUSE THAT ARE MAKING MINERS FOR OTHER CLIENTS. MOST QUANTITIES SOLD ARE IN THE 100-500 RANGE AND NOT LESS.

WE ARE BITMINE'S PARTNER AND THEIR US CHIP DISTRIBUTOR - THIS OUR JOB! YOU CAN BUY THESE CHIPS FROM BITMINE - AMT - AND ZEFIR. WE'RE SURE BOTH BITMINE AND ZEFIR WILL BOTH VERIFY THAT!

2. WE'VE ADDED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO BITMINE, LISTING THEM ONE BY IN THIS THREAD IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT APPROPRIATE IN GENERAL.

3. WE HAVE SHIPPED UNITS. WE JUST HAVE NOT SHIPPED YOU A FREE MINER. AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT SHIP YOU A FREE MINER TO REVIEW, YOU SIT ON THIS FORUM AND TALK TRASH ON THREAD. - ITS BASICALLY BLACKMAIL LOSHIA.

4. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO COUNTERFEIT CHIPS IN CHINA, THESE ARE ONLY RUMORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUY INTO THEM WILL BE BADLY BURNT.  THE CHINESE DO NOT HAVE WORKING TERRAHASH MINERS - THEY SIMPLY DONT EXIST, THEY ARE ALL LIES LIKE THE SEVERAL OTHER LIES IN THE FORUM IN THE PAST - LIKE PHEONIX TECHNOLOGIES FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE CHINESE PURCHASED CHIPS FROM BITMINE, US OR ZEFIR - MAYBE THEY'VE BUILT A BOARD AND PUT IT INTO A MINER - BUT THAT HAS YET TO BE SEEN.

5. WE ARE ROUNDING UP OTHER FORUM MEMBERS, THEY WILL COME TO OUR BUILD SHOP AND HELP US ASSEMBLE FASTER - THIS WILL ENSURE THAT OUR LEGITIMACY IS FACILITATED IN STONE ON THIS THREAD. NO OTHER MANUFACTURER HAS DONE THIS BECAUSE OF SECURITY REASONS - BUT AGAIN WE'LL TAKE MORE RISKS AND SHOW THIS THREAD AND THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT, CURRENTLY BUILD, AND ARE NOW USING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BUILD - BITCOIN MINERS.

AGAIN WE ARE AMT - THE USERNAME AMT_MINERS IS USUALLY ALYSSA OR JIM, BUT OCCASIONALLY HANNA, EMANUAL , CHRIS OR JENNA MAY WRITE FROM THIS USERNAME AS WELL.  JOSH IS OFTEN TOO DISGUSTED BY THIS THREAD TO EVEN READ IT.

Again - its a new location, we have not had the chance to get our teeth done at the local dentists and we usually buy our coffee from the wawa two blocks down because saxbys is twice the price and their coffee isn't that great. also in the business center we work in, there are over 65 business. its a very easy to find business center and our office is in the back of the parking lot in the last building on the first floor.

Also, we don't like getting reports from building managers and other people in the area asking why people are calling to get information about us.

We will make more pictures and try and be more accessible, after the next few weeks of shipments things should settle down a bit.

THIS FACILITY IS IN PHILADELPHIA - BY THE WAY, JOSH ZIPKIN RARELY POST ON THIS THREAD. THIS THREAD AND THE INFO YOU HAVE POSTED ABOUT HIM, HIS FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHER PERSONAL WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR BUSINESS AT ALL DISGUSTS HIM AS IT WOULD ANYONE ELSE IN HIS POSITION. BUT HE STILL WORKS 18 HOURS A DAY TO GET THINGS DONE.

ALSO HIS FATHER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BUSINESS! HE GAVE ME AN OFFICE TO START THIS AND TOGETHER WITH HIS SON AND A FEW OTHER OWNERS OF AMT WE BUILT THIS COMPANY.

BECAUSE THIS FORUM IS NOT MODERATED AT ALL - IT ALLOWS FOR THE KIND OF CRAP THAT HAS GONE ON TO GO ON IN THIS THREAD. POSTING MESSAGES ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS, PERSONAL ADDRESSES, PREVIOUS BUSINESS OF A STAFF'S FAMILY MEMBER AND OTHER INFORMATION WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BITCOIN MINING OR BITCOIN MINING HARDWARE.

WE ARE AMT - THE USERNAME AMT_MINERS IS USUALLY ALYSSA OR JIM, BUT OCCASIONALLY HANNA, EMANUAL , CHRIS OR JENNA MAY WRITE FROM THIS USERNAME AS WELL.  

ONE USERNAME - ONE COMPANY.

LAST NIGHTS POST AT 4AM WAS FROM ME JIM, WHO LEFT THE PCB HOUSE AROUND 3AM, GOT HOME, ANSWERED SOME EMAILS - AND THEN UPDATED THIS THREAD. I AM NOW BACK TO WORK ON A SUNDAY, HANDS COVERED IN HEATSINK GREASE, TYPING IN THIS FORUM. I WOULD LOVE TO SPEND THIS DAY WITH MY KIDS BUT INSTEAD IM DOING WHAT NEEDS TO GET TO SHIP MINERS.

THIS FORUM IS NOT A MEANS TO COMMUNICATE WITH AMT - CALL OR EMAIL US - WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE PROMISE.

WE WILL LAUNCH A SUPPORT FORUM VIA OUR SITE THIS EVENING. QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED WITHIN 24 HOURS ON THAT FORUM. IF THE QUESTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HARDWARE OR BUSINESS, WE'LL DELETE IT.

USERS LIKE PHINNAEUS, LOSHIA, SIRMINESALOT ARE THE TYPE OF USERS THAT HAVE TAKEN BITCOINTALK.ORG WHICH WAS ONCE A USEFUL RESOURCE OF INFORMATION, TO IT'S LOWEST LEVEL. WHAT WAS ONCE A COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE COULD USE TO FIND USEFUL INFORMATION AND WHERE COMPANIES ENJOYED POSTING ON AND GIVING UPDATES, HAS TURNED IN PURE TRASH BECAUSE OF A LACK OF MODERATION.

THIS IN TURN DRIVES BUSINESSES TO CREATE THEIR OWN FORUM LIKE BFL, AND COINTERRA, AND THEN IN TURN STOPS USERS.VISITORS/TRAFFIC FROM COMING TO THIS FORUM ALL TOGETHER FOR ANSWERS OR COMMUNICATION WITH COMPANIES IN GENERAL.


AND PHINNAEUS - ERIC,

WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU STOPPED THIS CRAP, OTHERWISE PEOPLE MIGHT FIND OUT WHERE YOUR BUSINESS IS LOCATED, AND WHERE YOUR HOME IS LOCATED. AND WE'LL BET THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THAT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION BASED ON OTHER THREADS YOU'VE POSTED IN.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT WE ARE NOT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN POLITICALLY CORRECT COMPANY. YOU SHOULD KNOW AND REALIZE WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT MOST DONT, AND THAT WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET THINGS DONE.

Based on what? I wouldn't expect the fire extinguisher sign to be in English if this was in Bulgaria.

Probably not in Bulgaria but this is not important at all.
It shows nothing that is what matters

This facility is in Bulgaria, as is Joshua Zipkin when he penned this post about 10AM local time.

Looks like Joshua Zipkin took down the video of him and Tyler Lummis https://plus.google.com/112246330529028182590/posts pouring cans of Mountain Dew into brand new cups in the aisles of Walmart in Nashville. No problem though, for if I look hard enough, I'm sure I can find a copy that maybe Tyler made, of whom now owns a hookah lounge in Ohio.

Heads down dude once again. Unfortunately we Bulgarians are famous with bad things mostly but this is another story. And of course mentioning of Bulgaria tells me a lot of things. Amongst all Joshua is a good learner for sure
But he has to learn a lot
In my arguments here I will never use the argument that he is juish never. I have a good Jutish friends. Besides we Bulgarians probably saved his grand mothers and grandfathers in world war 2. Pathetic if we missed that part the chance for him not to be born at all will be bigger.
There is nothing wrong something to go wrong but be a man and tell the truth....all we get is lies lies and more lies manufacturing engendering and programing these are my favorites.

I'm American.

Americans typically want to support local American companies over foreign companies. I'm sure this is the same for most other countries as well (buying local). This is where AMT has used 'buy American' as a marketing gimmick.

Another thing to mention is that Bulgaria has been mentioned in this thread a LOT more than America has (if that tells you anything).