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February 28, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
If we don't receive a product, we can file a lawsuit. It is simply illegal for them to just take money, and their bank knows that. I asked their bank this question, and they stated that if it is a scam; there would be legal action on my end and on their end. Bank fraud is some serious charges, so I doubt they would be dumb enough to do this.

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February 28, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
is no one going to point out that adobe_photoshop joined today and has three posts? Or do you only do that if someone disagrees with you.

Obviously he is Josh Zipkin.

Or you could have actually looked at his join date (Dec 20, 2013), the same date as his initial newbie post.

That was my honest mistake, I looked at the local time field not the join date.

My apologies to Mr. Zipkin uh I mean  a_p.

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February 28, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
Phin: Don't listen to these guys, keep posting!

Some of you guys are really clueless.

When people end up fighting for refunds or not receiving product, they'll use all the information you provided about Joshua Zipkin and his father (owners of AMT). Harrison Zipkin entered the arena when his son involved him with meeting clients of AMT. He is obviously involved with AMT, so he becomes fair game. Overall it seems that shady business ethics run in the Zipkin family.

Casirah, you spent 5 hours making a road trip to meet AMT and they blew you off. They also have your money. While I appreciate you making an effort for all of us, so is Phin. If AMT has an issue with what he's posting, they can respond to it. They are very picky and choosy to who they respond to; specifically giving attention to 'prospective buyers'. As for anyone with concerns that have already paid, they are on the bottom of the list for them.

He's not out to trash AMT; though it becomes hard not to when you read the shit they post. I believe he has everyone's best intentions at heart, he's simply informing the public about WHO is behind AMT. If you don't care about who is financially involved with AMT, and you gave them money : well then you're a fucking retard. If and when this startup bites the dust and you lose all your money, you might decide being a pre emptive AMT supporter and shill wasn't in your best interest.
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February 28, 2014, 07:38:49 PM

One more thing I forgot to add, those youtube videos, were uploaded from Sofia, Bulgaria. Josh is with a girl by the name of Marina Petrova. Good friends with Georgi Stoitsev (who did the video with him and claimed to be with bitmine), who is also married to Ina Ilieva and they all live in Sofia, Bulgaria, looks more and more like a scam and so far.. over 1,000 people have been scammed from the looks of things. There has been no substantial proof that AMT is a legitimate company, a very unfortunate to say but AMT deliver on your promises and I will take back everything I have said but for now, you have turned a believer into a skeptic.

How do you know all this?

If 1,000 people have been scammed,  would I not hear more of them over here?

Has Bitmine.ch also been scammed?

Is Bitmine.ch also a scam?

What about Technobit,  are they getting chips from a scam (Bitmine.ch)?

Why would Bitmine.ch endorse AMT?



how do I know this? Same way anyone else who does a bunch of research. I have done research on these guys for over 3 months now and every time I dig into the legitimacy of their business I have struck a dead end. Their property management groups, their supposed business neighbors, none of them have heard of these guys. You would think at least one or two of them would have heard of them. Bitmine.ch could have very easily been scammed as well. I won't go into too much detail about myself however, vendors use the "premier vendor" or "exclusive vendor" very loosely I highly doubt Bitmine.ch did very much at all to research AMT. Bitmine didn't really have anything to loose. It is their product, they won't send it to AMT until they are paid for it. I'm not saying 100% AMT is a scam but there are way too many open questions that have gone on unanswered for me not to question their legitimacy. I also say this on your behalf as well, I know you want your machine as do we all.

But, if they've been buds for the past 6+ years, then no money would need to be passed between one another since they're working together and separately on different projects.

Now's your chance, assholes, to stick it up my ass and state that none of this matters, for who cares if a father and son team are working together, or if two Bulgarians claiming to be in Switzerland are working together, as long as you Newbies get your vaporware miner.

Did I say buds? My bad! Relatives is what I meant.
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February 28, 2014, 07:27:37 PM
Joshua Zipkin and Georgi Stoitsev have known each other since at least 2008.

https://www.facebook.com/georgi.stoitsev



Also, Joshua just deleted his friends page a few minutes ago, along with a post that I was going to use to link him to Georgi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

Looks to me like we have two scams in progress, with one vetting the other. Don't you love Bitcoin?

https://www.facebook.com/ina.ilieva.35

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February 28, 2014, 07:03:37 PM
is no one going to point out that adobe_photoshop joined today and has three posts? Or do you only do that if someone disagrees with you.

Obviously he is Josh Zipkin.

I don't bash newbies. Without constant new blood, bitcoin is dead. Just like any other commodity or currency.

Yeah, I know you're being sarcastic, but its one of the things that drives me nuts about this site. I lurked for months before I joined and posted, with the hope of educating myself to the point of not looking like an idiot. I still managed to look like an idiot, but I got jumped several times for simply having a low post count.

Everyone starts somewhere. As far as I know, we got no true immortals at Bitcointalk. Even if we do, the forum is only a few years old.

Low vs high post count = ePeen score this comic pretty much sums it up even though its referring to World Of Warcraft. http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100222 substitute gear for post count.
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February 28, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
So I called the number you highlighted and:

1) It's a personal cell number (so don't troll and don't blow up his phone plz)
2) ASA moved into that building in January, after my attempted visit
3) He confirms that he knows AMT and that they used that location as a mailing address
4) AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction

Hope it helps.


This post needed to be bumped due the recent revelations. It proves that termonator61 and AMT_miner (Joshua Zipkin) are definitely lying.

termonator61 claimed that ASA, Harrison Zipkin's entity, moved into the 1254 W Chester Pike office space AFTER his first attempted visit, yet I've proved that Harrison and Joshua been using that same address from at least Q3, 2011.

AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction, eh! No construction has ever taken place at that locale. It's just a distribution center, at best, for some security system. In essence, Joshua Zipkin asked his Daddy-O, Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, to help build some vaporware ASIC miners. I could imagine how the conversation went:

I don't know why you turned on me when I was trying to get to THE TRUTH (and by truth I mean facts and credible evidence, not just Bon Jovi tickets and asking them "who is your daddy and what does he do?") just as much as you. I went to their office on DEC 27, 2013 and ASA moved in sometime in January 2014. I didn't say that Harrison wasn't there and owning that space, Jim told me that he did and they were using that facility as early staging and small production. So what if Josh has a daddy? If I were starting a journey on the scale of AMT, the first thing I would do is garner support from the family. Family in this case, meant a father who had some usable work-space and a business address. You can't prove that production never took place there, just as I can't prove that it did; asserting claims of anything else is a lie and you know it. The fact that you can't move past your "revelations" that merely consist of long-shot accusations, their ethnicity, and a few business busts that have little or nothing to do with the current matter at hand (internet tid-bit: 7/10 first time business fail, but 9/10 second time business succeed). You really need to stop this "research", or whatever you call this vomit that you post, and get some fresh air. I'm starting to see why AMT doesn't give us updates or any reassurance, people like YOU drive them away with this childish attitude you've picked up and fuel further with every new post of "revelation".

Quoting, so that I can get a fresh cup of coffee, then reply, not giving you a chance to delete this wonderful post of yours.
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February 28, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Phinnaeus Gage,

I really don't find your comments fun. I am a professional business man/military guy, and dissing someones family is not cool.

I'll tell you what... if you dissed my family, I would do A LOT more than sue you...but its not me, so I digress.

Who gives a shit about this dude? I don't, and honestly you are pulling away from any business that could be done on the forum.
I understand your pissed off about late shipments, and so am I!

but please, stop, I don't give A FUCK about Josh Zipkin or his father and neither should you.
All I give a FUCK about is my mining machine, which they promised to upgrade them for us.

Create a separate THREAD called "AMT_miners bashing" or something along those lines.

Take your troll posse with you too.


I just want to talk business with AMT on here, and receive their updates.

+2

The same goes to you, too.

Did you even read my Facebook post a couple posts up? Or are you Joshua Zipkin, too, trying to kill the messenger? If that's the case...

Bruno Kucinskas
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815-508-1668

Doors are unlocked and there's no weapons in this home. Bring in on!
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February 28, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
So I called the number you highlighted and:

1) It's a personal cell number (so don't troll and don't blow up his phone plz)
2) ASA moved into that building in January, after my attempted visit
3) He confirms that he knows AMT and that they used that location as a mailing address
4) AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction

Hope it helps.


This post needed to be bumped due the recent revelations. It proves that termonator61 and AMT_miner (Joshua Zipkin) are definitely lying.

termonator61 claimed that ASA, Harrison Zipkin's entity, moved into the 1254 W Chester Pike office space AFTER his first attempted visit, yet I've proved that Harrison and Joshua been using that same address from at least Q3, 2011.

AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction, eh! No construction has ever taken place at that locale. It's just a distribution center, at best, for some security system. In essence, Joshua Zipkin asked his Daddy-O, Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, to help build some vaporware ASIC miners. I could imagine how the conversation went:

I don't know why you turned on me when I was trying to get to THE TRUTH (and by truth I mean facts and credible evidence, not just Bon Jovi tickets and asking them "who is your daddy and what does he do?") just as much as you. I went to their office on DEC 27, 2013 and ASA moved in sometime in January 2014. I didn't say that Harrison wasn't there and owning that space, Jim told me that he did and they were using that facility as early staging and small production. So what if Josh has a daddy? If I were starting a journey on the scale of AMT, the first thing I would do is garner support from the family. Family in this case, meant a father who had some usable work-space and a business address. You can't prove that production never took place there, just as I can't prove that it did; asserting claims of anything else is a lie and you know it. The fact that you can't move past your "revelations" that merely consist of long-shot accusations, their ethnicity, and a few business busts that have little or nothing to do with the current matter at hand (internet tid-bit: 7/10 first time business fail, but 9/10 second time business succeed). You really need to stop this "research", or whatever you call this vomit that you post, and get some fresh air. I'm starting to see why AMT doesn't give us updates or any reassurance, people like YOU drive them away with this childish attitude you've picked up and fuel further with every new post of "revelation".
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February 28, 2014, 06:49:01 PM
Phinnaeus Gage,

I really don't find your comments fun. I am a professional business man/military guy, and dissing someones family is not cool.

I'll tell you what... if you dissed my family, I would do A LOT more than sue you...but its not me, so I digress.

Who gives a shit about this dude? I don't, and honestly you are pulling away from any business that could be done on the forum.
I understand your pissed off about late shipments, and so am I!

but please, stop, I don't give A FUCK about Josh Zipkin or his father and neither should you.
All I give a FUCK about is my mining machine, which they promised to upgrade them for us.

Create a separate THREAD called "AMT_miners bashing" or something along those lines.

Take your troll posse with you too.


I just want to talk business with AMT on here, and receive their updates.

+1

To both you clueless assholes! I AM NOT DISSING ANYBODY'S FAMILY! Harrison Zipkin is part of the makeup of AMT owned and operated by Joshua Zipkin. If I was dissing, I would post Harrison's home address and pen his wife's name that Joshua has used a myriad of times when registering certain domain names.

You two fucks owe me an apology and a thank you when you finally realize that you're not getting your precious miners.

It's a Goddamn shame that I have to say this to fine military dude, but FUCK OFF!
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February 28, 2014, 06:48:56 PM
Phinnaeus Gage,

I really don't find your comments fun. I am a professional business man/military guy, and dissing someones family is not cool.

I'll tell you what... if you dissed my family, I would do A LOT more than sue you...but its not me, so I digress.

Who gives a shit about this dude? I don't, and honestly you are pulling away from any business that could be done on the forum.
I understand your pissed off about late shipments, and so am I!

but please, stop, I don't give A FUCK about Josh Zipkin or his father and neither should you.
All I give a FUCK about is my mining machine, which they promised to upgrade them for us.

Create a separate THREAD called "AMT_miners bashing" or something along those lines.

Take your troll posse with you too.


I just want to talk business with AMT on here, and receive their updates.

+2
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February 28, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
Phinnaeus Gage,

I really don't find your comments fun. I am a professional business man/military guy, and dissing someones family is not cool.

I'll tell you what... if you dissed my family, I would do A LOT more than sue you...but its not me, so I digress.

Who gives a shit about this dude? I don't, and honestly you are pulling away from any business that could be done on the forum.
I understand your pissed off about late shipments, and so am I!

but please, stop, I don't give A FUCK about Josh Zipkin or his father and neither should you.
All I give a FUCK about is my mining machine, which they promised to upgrade them for us.

Create a separate THREAD called "AMT_miners bashing" or something along those lines.

Take your troll posse with you too.


I just want to talk business with AMT on here, and receive their updates.

+1
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February 28, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
Phinnaeus Gage,

I really don't find your comments fun. I am a professional business man/military guy, and dissing someones family is not cool.

I'll tell you what... if you dissed my family, I would do A LOT more than sue you...but its not me, so I digress.

Who gives a shit about this dude? I don't, and honestly you are pulling away from any business that could be done on the forum.
I understand your pissed off about late shipments, and so am I!

but please, stop, I don't give A FUCK about Josh Zipkin or his father and neither should you.
All I give a FUCK about is my mining machine, which they promised to upgrade them for us.

Create a separate THREAD called "AMT_miners bashing" or something along those lines.

Take your troll posse with you too.


I just want to talk business with AMT on here, and receive their updates.
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February 28, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Reads to me like somebody is going to be in Bulgaria come May. Also, it reads to me that somebody is already in Bulgaria.

https://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin



I wonder if he's taking his long time friend, https://www.facebook.com/georgi.stoitsev, with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

ITS FEB 2013 buddy, we are in 2014 . Your James bond eye missed it, lol. Not dissing, just saying. You make this form fun so keep at it

I just now caught that and was going to come and delete the post if nobody had replied yet. By bad on this one.
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February 28, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
Reads to me like somebody is going to be in Bulgaria come May. Also, it reads to me that somebody is already in Bulgaria.

https://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3717/12842545035_51f5eed401_z.jpg

I wonder if he's taking his long time friend, https://www.facebook.com/georgi.stoitsev, with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

ITS FEB 2013 buddy, we are in 2014 . Your James bond eye missed it, lol. Not dissing, just saying. You make this form fun so keep at it
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February 28, 2014, 06:13:52 PM
Reads to me like somebody is going to be in Bulgaria come May. Also, it reads to me that somebody is already in Bulgaria.

https://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin



I wonder if he's taking his long time friend, https://www.facebook.com/georgi.stoitsev, with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM
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February 28, 2014, 05:35:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitcoin-Economy-Europe/180123048758370?sk=info

Quote
Mission
ABOUT US

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Only, if you have NO referral click here to sign up.

The company is founded by a group of 20 international bitcoin “Die Hard’s”, multi level marketing professionals, compensation plan and accounting experts, and top-level business people with over 150 years of combined direct selling business experience. Our founders are from the USA, Europe, Middle East and Asia and are working very hard in virtual teams to make this opportunity available for everybody in the world soon.

Estimated pre-launch date: 3 January 2014

The above has this video on their FB page: https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=251822801588394

Now go here: http://www.americansecurityadvisersllc.com/

There address is (and was last year):

Quote
American Security Advisers, LLC


1254 West Chester Pike
3rd Floor
Havertown, PA 19083
610 637-0146

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/SHS-Midatlantic/Havertown-Pennsylvania-19083/SHS-Midatlantic-Fraud-Do-not-do-business-or-accept-a-job-here-Havertown-Pennsylvania-950093

http://web.archive.org/web/20110619112916/http://www.shsmidatlantic.com/

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/csr/4338873436.html

Quote
TRAINING COORDINATOR (PHILADELPHIA, PA)
compensation: $29,500 Plus Performance Bonuses.
Our company, a HONEYWELL affiliate corporation, a division of the security and defense technology services group, is now seeking several highly motivated men and women to TRAIN EMPLOYEES & CLIENTELE in the methods and use of defense technologies. The qualified candidate will be WELL SPOKEN, PERSONABLE, and PROFESSIONAL IN PRESENTATION. He/She will possess a HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE OR HIGHER, and be desirous of working with a variety of individuals in diverse situations. We are seeking individuals who will serve Delaware County, Montgomery County, Chester County, and several other surrounding counties in Eastern PA, New Jersey, and Delaware. YOU WILL WORK IN YOUR AREA. COMPLETE TRAINING will be provided. Management programs are available for those who qualify. These positions start at $29,500 PLUS EARNED MONTHLY BONUS opportunities with BENEFITS AFTER 90 DAYS. First year potential EXCEEDS $50,000. Must have vehicle. We will be interviewing thru Monday, February 24th, 2013. We will also conduct a second interview on the same day for those who are selected from 2:00 PM to 3:30 PM. Final selections will be made by the end of business on that day. FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION, you may telephone for an interview at 610-637-0146, or submit your resume.

So I called the number you highlighted and:

1) It's a personal cell number (so don't troll and don't blow up his phone plz)
2) ASA moved into that building in January, after my attempted visit
3) He confirms that he knows AMT and that they used that location as a mailing address
4) AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction

Hope it helps.


This post needed to be bumped due the recent revelations. It proves that termonator61 and AMT_miner (Joshua Zipkin) are definitely lying.

termonator61 claimed that ASA, Harrison Zipkin's entity, moved into the 1254 W Chester Pike office space AFTER his first attempted visit, yet I've proved that Harrison and Joshua been using that same address from at least Q3, 2011.

AMT tried to hire ASA techs to help with construction, eh! No construction has ever taken place at that locale. It's just a distribution center, at best, for some security system. In essence, Joshua Zipkin asked his Daddy-O, Harrison Zachariah Zipkin, to help build some vaporware ASIC miners. I could imagine how the conversation went:

JZ: Dad, I got a great idea!
HZ: What is it, my number one Bulgarian son?
JZ: I love it when you call me that, dad. Look, there's this thing call Bitcoin...
HZ: I've heard, and read about it. Go on.
JZ: Anyway, there's this forum populated with users that have more money than brains.
HZ: That picks my interest. Go on.
JZ: It's piques, not picks. Anyway, there's this company called... Shit, I can't remember it's name...
HZ: Read about. I think they're in Kansas.
JZ: Exactly, dad. And the main dude over there has the same name as me, with the exact same initials.
HZ: This is so fuckin' fasinating. So, you think...
JZ: No thinking evolved at all, dad. We simply pump out a few of them FPGA thingies that are easy to make...
HZ: Then we claim to be producing them ASIC miner thingies...
JZ: Exactly! I even have this old friend in Switzerland...
HZ: Don't tell me anymore! That way when the police come, my story will come across as genuine.
JZ: Are you in?
HZ: Like Flint! I'll handle the marketing.
JZ: But... but... but... What will I do?
HZ: You work the crowd over (pun intended) on that there Bitcoin forum.
JZ: But, what will we do when our ruse is discovered?
HZ: Пapeн -- кaшa дyxa.
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February 28, 2014, 05:17:17 PM
Also,

A heads up for technical bullies and tech enthusiasts in this thread. We've created our own board as well, and no daisy chain is needed for this bad boy.

This board will ship in the 2.4's and 3.2's.



- AMT

Hmmm.... then the 8 coincraft a1 board appears to be someone else's design (bitmine.ch).


Yeah the only thing that amt is capable to design is amt print on pcb's Grin
Bitminedesign + a crapy copy of marto's design as long as I see it Grin
Probably he got all from bitmine nd now he is assembling at full sped.but main question is is this stuff working Grin
Amt is famous with microchip programing skils having in mind their deep bitfury experience
 Grin


It's a new internal design of AMT. AMT designs and creates boards now. And the boards is controlled by micro controllers, there is no daisy chain likes martins board. Each chip communicates with a different micro controller and komsho, is an original design.

It's our design and we created it.  Support us and you may receive a prodarak.


Hi guys,
Really hoping for a update and confirmation soon?

Regards,
Naran
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February 28, 2014, 05:04:53 PM
is no one going to point out that adobe_photoshop joined today and has three posts? Or do you only do that if someone disagrees with you.

Obviously he is Josh Zipkin.

Or you could have actually looked at his join date (Dec 20, 2013), the same date as his initial newbie post.
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February 28, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
is no one going to point out that adobe_photoshop joined today and has three posts? Or do you only do that if someone disagrees with you.

Obviously he is Josh Zipkin.

Thanks, r_k. Going to do that now.

adobe_photoshop just joined this forum today and only has three posts.

Let this be a warning to all Newbies that agree with me.

I'll be watching you, a_p. That said, you got dinner plans for tonight?
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