Topic: Official Thread: AMT - page 203. (Read 678353 times)

Casey, color me confused!

Every time I look on the forum, I see the same old crap spammed across the page. It's getting old...It may be factual, but I'm telling you its just annoying.

Yes, I hope they aren't scamming us, but I just want my miners. That's all.

~Casey

I would have totally meet you face to face but that might kill your dreams of being james bond. Plus what if you beat the shit outta me. I am too pretty for that man!

The guy you spoke with at the bar. Was he about 6'3" weighing about 300+ lbs, or was he a midget, or of average built? If the former, it probably was Harrison.

Moreover, did he look like the guy on the far left in the following pic?

Whoa there bub, I've never lied in any of my few posts here. I did visit that location and only found a locked door and a guess from a bartender, probably because it was only 2 days after Christmas. I also said, if you recall, that the information I found was told to me by, most likely, Harrison Zipkin himself when I caught him off guard. As you claim, he owns that company and that's their phone number. I'm surprised that in all of your digging you didn't think to try and *gasp* call someone..... The information I gathered may or may not be compromised, I only stated what he told me.


Fact rebutted.


When I visited them I didn't know who was there, I wanted to kill two birds with one stone when I was on my way to my grandparents. I only spent about an hour there and that was back before your trolling and everyone's hate so I didn't think I needed to know what kind of cologne they wear or what they did with their hair in the 80's or other extraneous information that you oh-so-love to collect and post.


Why is it that you always resort to vulgarity when we're simply having a discussion?

And no, I'm not Josh Zipkin.... I don't know why you think everyone is Josh

I've visited and called while you were:


Before you attack someone who wants the same thing as you, could you at least get your facts straight? Please??



P.S.
You might also be insane, just a thought.

You are one piece of smelly shit!


Seasoned bitcoiners have yet to get a response from this fuck, while you pen in your very first post that you're able to get ahold of them with very little effort, going as far as acting as leader to calm down the discontent, then have the audacity to stick it up my ass for trying to help.

Let's meet up somewhere so that I can knock some sense into you, mkay?

Oh damn you got me i am joshua zipkin, let me try this again from another ID. Oh so you too are stupid enough to wear your under wear over your pant .

Not yet...still waiting like you, yes I'm anxious about it.

I can see photos of what looks like assembled 1.2's, so thinking it's still days away, well that was 2 weeks ago...

I can certainly appreciate your anger, I been waiting almost double most here, but I've tried to stay civil.

Likely having a tech background helps a little, I can certainly appreciate the challenges, new chip, new board, new components, lots of moving design pieces to get right, at working cost level and profitability.

I only wish they were more transparent about the design and assembly challenges but even that can be copied by DIY's and competitors so somewhat secretive about there design choices is somewhat warrantied.

Still they should have tried to be more transparent about the problems, a lot more earlier may have avoided the type of abuse and personal attacks they've been facing recently.

Keep in mind BFL spent a year and a half before shipping product for first gen 65nm stuff, so with that in perspective 28nm coming out in 3-4 months seems like super fast doesn't it?

The theory doesn't sound so far fetched. bitmine got their chips on January 30th, AMT claimed to receive their chips on January 31st (though the picture from that date has EFIX data stating 02/1/14 as the date the pic was taken) Reasonable that the pic was taken the next day if it was a evening delivery and only a day off from Bitmine so these chips would have shipped directly from the the factory. The picture was taken from a residential address.

A backdated post claiming it was made on Feb 10th has AMT announcing that They are prototyping boards. Looks like they are using bitmine's design, just locally manufactured. The picture posted here has EFIX data placing the date the picture was taken as the 20th of Feb at 2:17 pm

Reference design of CoinCraft A1 Evaluation Board publicly released on Github on Feb 12th by bitmine (it would stand to reason that this was provided to their US distributor earlier as part of their deal)

Bitmine shows video of working coincraft desk feb 12th

Bitmine states first coincraft machines are shipping out to thier customers later that week.

Feb 15th AMT posts (via their web site) that they are sending orders of A1 chips that were pre ordered for mid february delivery. Makes no claims of shipping miners.

feb 18th AMT posts  Claims of Counterfeit AMT Miner Production in news section. Adds orderverify email address.

Nothing posted on web site since.


Just a time line.  

Touché! Noticed I gave my real name and address while hiding behind this keyboard, whereas your fucked up identity is unknown, unless you're Joshua Zipkin located in Bulgaria, pretending to visit Switzerland or residing in PA.‎ That said, lick my Superman balls, Wonder Woman!

Although I stand behind the sentiment expressed in the above post I penned, I didn't realize that it was Casiriahmine that I was addressing at the time. I'm still taken aback by his comment, but would have penned a different post if I realized who penned it, for I appreciated his efforts.

Consider this an apology, of sorts, for what it's worth, bud.

~Bruno Kucinskas

narankpatel you dont have your miner yet? what a fuking surprise... i dont either. anyone figure out why they posted a delivery schedule a week ago and all ready they have dropped the ball? these guys are scamming us for sure.

i spoke with an attorney this morning. all i can say is... nothing. i have been instructed/advised to say nothing else in regards to AMT.  let's just say AMT is definitely not acting within their rights. by the way folks... a lot of the information i found out today tells me one can EASILY take these folks to the court/cleaners. it's amazing what a little attorney detective work can turn up. AMT has a VERY checkered past. If you would like to speak with the same attorney I am using PM me and i will see if he will talk to you as well. The two gentlemen I spoke with for almost 2 hours today informed me a class action suit against AMT is also a possibility depending on the response we get. i gave AMT every chance to make right. either these guys (AMT) know something we dont or they are just plain "ignorant" - that's as nice as i can put it. I am calling the BBB in Pennsylvania on monday and adding another  ripoffreport.com post just for measure.

I have this theory about AMT...

1> They take pre sales for miners dating back to October 2013.
2> They quickly buy up the hardware and manufacture the miners
3> They run the miner themselves during this 'early profitable period' and bank on the BTC made
4> After many delays; miners are finally released to buyers to avoid possible refunds.
5> Miners are essentially vaporware and cannot ROI due to the delays. They will work, but will not pay for themselves - and getting a refund on this will be difficult since AMT can argue they fulfilled their promises with "limited delays that weren't directly their fault".

This would explain the lack of videos and pictures, they do not want us to know these miners already exist and are hashing them BTC since last year.

Theoretically: If a few refunds are issued, it's not the end of the world (to AMT) because someone else will take their place. As we've seen before, they will not directly refund the customer themselves: they just become a middleman between someone else buying the pre-orderer's miner.

I know it sounds a little confusing, but what I'm trying to say is: customers have paid AMT directly (wire transfer/BTC) but when it comes to getting a refund, they (AMT) says someone else must 'take over their pre-order' for a refund to occur. The original buyer gets their refund, and is essentially replaced by a new customer (the person who took over the pre-order). AMT doesn't spend a cent to refund the customer.

AMT is a SCAM: because they are using our money to fund their mining operation. We'll simply get the used hardware afterwards (that does work) and after months of trying to recoup our investment running the rig, find that it isn't going to break even. By this time, any kind of refund is impossible. AMT will do everything to make you happy and hold onto that equipment and not get a full refund, but it won't matter because it will be worthless in less than a few months.

So, that is my theory. Is it far fetched? I think it's genius actually if it could be pulled off. You are basically spending other peoples money to create a huge array of miners that make you rich, then you pass the hardware off when that earning window has elapsed and fulfill the customers' order.

Please let me know your thoughts on this possible theory.

Your post is so fucked up, I don't know where to start. I guess the beginning is as good as any.


Obviously, one of us is putting in a helluva more effort in uncovering the truth than the other, namely me, for I've disputed your previous facts, and now am in the process of doing it again.

That Bon Jovi post of mine was an error on my part, getting the years mixed up. According to your post history, you've yet to fess up to any of your mistakes.


So, you went to their office on DEC 27, 2013, and ASA wasn't there. ASA moved into the 1254 W. Chester Pike office sometime in January, 2014.

How is it that even though you went to the office and discovered that ASA wasn't there, that I was able to prove that Joshua Ziplin has used that very office back in 2011 sitting here on this fuckin' toilet located in Sandwich, IL. (seriously, I probably was on the toilet when I learnt such, and am now on the very same shitter penning this kiss-my-ass post).

http://web.archive.org/web/20120112045158/http://setupstarters.com/


Let's see who owns setupstarters.com, shall we?

http://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=setupstarters.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=tH4Uy1W7mcWYqEpRRvzP4fRAvIxuiBvmYx8OP%2f4+cE2+bgcchy1cFjNjeM4uadofiTJ3aNx1xEE%3d


Do you notice anything right off the bat? Probably not, so let me help you.


Convert to the appropriate time zones and you'll learn that they're only minutes apart. I bet you didn't find that tidbit on any door on some 3rd floor labeled "Safe" did you?

Since Joshua thought he was so clever in changing the Whois of a site that even to this day he claims he owns, I guess I have to prove it, once again, that he indeed does own said site, along with him factually having access to said address, in spite of what some dude named Jim told or you discovered on your own.

http://online-cash.us.w3cspy.com/


https://www.facebook.com/josh.zipkin


If that wasn't enough for you to get you rocks off, perhaps visit SEXYCOURSES.COM, a site that Joshua Zipkin started minutes prior to registering on this forum, the same time he editing his other domain I mentioned toward the beginning of this post.


Son, I'm not the bad guy here. I'm just trying to help. And, if you can't see that, them I'm sorry to say that you're fucked for life.

And, if you're Joshua Zipkin, then you are one serious fucked up dude. Enjoy the bitcoins you're about to rip off from fellow bitcoiners, you piece of shit Bulgarian!

No one is upset about his looking into the legality of the established company. It's when he starts making tenuous leaps between information trying to tie it together, then starts posting about the guy's facebook friends (I'm not sure what he had to do with anything. The link to the video doesn't seems to feature him in any sort of way.) Then he makes a bunch of xenophobic or jingoist remarks that really have nothing to do with the business. That is where I have a hard time swallowing what he's putting out there.

If and when a lawsuit needs to be filed, SOME of what he posted could be valuable information to the case. And for that yes he deserves a thanks. For the rest of it he deserves to be called out on what looks like a witch hunt.

in fairness I made a mistake there and it's only right to call it out. I see where you got the 2008 date. But i still maintain that he is not the guy in the video.

http://bitmine.ch/?p=5180

there is bitmine's post with the information available to anyone for the reference design for the boards. I'm thinking this is likely what AMT used as it looks very similar to the pictures amt posted the other day, when you watch bitmines video of the machine actually doing the hashing.

So you are saying that the guy he is friends with there is the guy you are claiming is pretending to be swiss? I just want to make sure that is what you are saying.


Because that guy looks nothing like the guy in the video. Gregori and Giorgio are not even the same name.

Then if you go to the bitmine web site and see the posts from giorgio massarotto and look up his facebook he has posts there. And is obviously the guy in the video.   https://www.facebook.com/massarotto

while you are there there do me a solid and look at his friends section on his facebook page. Are those his friends from the year 283? If so he must be older than he looks.

I expect better from a crack detective like yourself.

You watch one too many MARVEL Movies ( iron man). I love how every one is so tough on behind a key board

Well you'll need their business information to do that won't you? It'll be easy to look it up thanks to Phin and Augusto: even though there are some dodgy-ass business registrations made on their behalf.

Phin, maybe you can chime in and let us know if they are even legitimately registered as a company? Last we spoke about them using another companies name of AMT Inc. that was founded in 1983.

Casirah: Just yesterday you were like "Fuck this shit!" and now you're back to defending AMT? What happen, you saw a few photos of some hardware and changed your tune?

Same for you FRICTIONLESSCOIN: When there aren't updates for a week, you seem to agree that something doesn't seem right with all these facets of AMT : then a few photos are posted and you're back on the AMT wagon.

It's obvious you guys are just buttering up AMT in hopes that it will get you your miners and possibly a discount.

You guys need to stop acting like a bunch of babies and realize there is a lot of money at stake here. Knowing who OWNS,OPERATES, AND IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AT AMT: IS A GOOD THING. You should be thanking Phin instead of bashing him. What the fuck does he, or anyone else that is exhibiting COMMON SENSE of these shady business practices, have to gain from posting this stuff? NOTHING.

One last comment: AMT doesn't need to necessarily SCAM a buyer to get away with murder. They can send you a miner that is very LATE to arrive, or fails after a month, or is just a non working piece of shit to begin with: and then respond to possible lawsuits with "Well we were a startup that tried to develop bleeding edge tech, but failed due to X and Y". It is entirely possible that they are setting themselves up to fail, even with deliveries of product - then walk away with lots of cash when it all goes south, saying "they tried their best". Even if a month from now they hopped on here and said "Sorry guys, we tried to build these miners but our company has become bankrupt in doing so", you'd be fucked.

This shit happens all the time.