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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 184. (Read 723903 times)

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Risk assessment most likely? If your trading servers are somewhere where "they" have strong leverage to shut the servers down, your HK company won't help.

Not in the US and not in Hong Kong.
They are in a safe place.

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?


Thanks.
You are in a very shitty spot right now. You're basically in the hands of fate. If the guy who loaned the btc doesn't return them before the contract runs out your coins are indeed trapped for 30 days. Nothing you can do about it and BFX will most defintely not reverse this contract without you giving them a very good reason.

Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?

Thanks.

If the person that borrowed your btc keep the contract for 30 days and if he's not closed because of the margin there is no way to get it back.

Strictly speaking, this^^ is correct and there is no fault in this of Bitfinex. However, considering the fact that there is plenty of coins which people do want to lend, I personally see no wrong doing by Bitfinex if your get your coins released as a courtesy, per your request to support.

As a few times already in the past, this is one of the situations where it's not Bitfinex' own decision, because it's a contract between the two business partners.
Cheer up, you're gaining money on this "error", Wandererfromthenorth :-)

Ente
While it is technically correct that he's earning btc on his deposit the interest rate is so retardedly low for btc that if the btc price depreciates 2 dollars he will probably have less than before in terms of fiat value.
 

Although I'm very, very cautious with entering loans and such a mistake has never happened to me I fear the day I'm putting in a 30 day lending offer and enter a zero too much. I've seen this happen so often on the orderbook which is why I've been advocating an option where the lender can close his loan if he can find another swap offer for a cheaper rate and equally long duration to replace his.
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Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?

Thanks.

If the person that borrowed your btc keep the contract for 30 days and if he's not closed because of the margin there is no way to get it back.

Strictly speaking, this^^ is correct and there is no fault in this of Bitfinex. However, considering the fact that there is plenty of coins which people do want to lend, I personally see no wrong doing by Bitfinex if your get your coins released as a courtesy, per your request to support.

As a few times already in the past, this is one of the situations where it's not Bitfinex' own decision, because it's a contract between the two business partners.
Cheer up, you're gaining money on this "error", Wandererfromthenorth :-)

Ente
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Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?

Thanks.

If the person that borrowed your btc keep the contract for 30 days and if he's not closed because of the margin there is no way to get it back.

Strictly speaking, this^^ is correct and there is no fault in this of Bitfinex. However, considering the fact that there is plenty of coins which people do want to lend, I personally see no wrong doing by Bitfinex if your get your coins released as a courtesy, per your request to support.
legendary
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Risk assessment most likely? If your trading servers are somewhere where "they" have strong leverage to shut the servers down, your HK company won't help.

Not in the US and not in Hong Kong.
They are in a safe place.

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?


Thanks.

If the person that borrowed your btc keep the contract for 30 days and if he's not closed because of the margin there is no way to get it back.
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Risk assessment most likely? If your trading servers are somewhere where "they" have strong leverage to shut the servers down, your HK company won't help.

Not in the US and not in Hong Kong.
They are in a safe place.

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
Hi Giancarlo

I have a question.

I just put my BTCs as SWAP provided with the function "Auto-Renew" and I accidentally left "30 days" as default option.
I just wanted to try out the feature, are my BTCs now "trapped" in SWAP provided for 30 days?
How does it work? I just deactivated the "Auto-renew" function. Does it mean that when the user/users who is borrowing my BTC to short closes his position I can have my BTC back and use them for margin trading or withdrawal (before the 30 day period)? How can I access my BTCs without having to now wait for 30 days?


Thanks.
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Risk assessment most likely? If your trading servers are somewhere where "they" have strong leverage to shut the servers down, your HK company won't help.

Not in the US and not in Hong Kong.
They are in a safe place.

Have a good day

Giancarlo
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where are your trading servers located is it HK or the US?
% geoiplookup bitfinex.com
GeoIP Country Edition: IL, Israel
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Risk assessment most likely? If your trading servers are somewhere where "they" have strong leverage to shut the servers down, your HK company won't help.
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Hi

where are your trading servers located is it HK or the US?

thx

What is the purpose of your question if I may ask?

Thanks

Giancarlo
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Hi

where are your trading servers located is it HK or the US?

thx
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Actually, I have a dedicated server hosted in datacenter with unlimited bandwidth. I can easily provide an virtual machine for bjornw to host bfxdata.com. Let's see if he is interested.
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How much of bandwidth does he need exactly?

DigitalOcean provides 1 TB for $5 (five US dollars) per month. So I could host a 156MB video which was banned on youtube, spreaded links all over the internet and didn't care about traffic. And additional bandwidth transfer is only 2¢ per GB.
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How could offer rate be lower than demand rate?
Is it because of different swap time ranges?

Cheers

that's correct!

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team


Giancarlo and Bitfinex:
http://www.bfxdata.com/ is in need of help with their hosting and fees.  Since you link them on your site now, will you consider helping them?  Their site is a great companion tool to Bitfinex.  Thank you.
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I would greatly appreciate that too!

Ente
I'm in serious need of better web hosting. If someone can recommend me a web hosting provider with LARGE bandwith limits (or non at all Smiley at a reasonable price, please do contact me via mail. Also I'm in serious need of donations to pay for webhosting, as it'll cost me between $45 - $100 each month to keep providing the service as before. Just keep in mind I do this for fun. I'm not sure I'll keep providing this service when it will cost me $45 per month... Rgards Bjorn
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How could offer rate be lower than demand rate?
Is it because of different swap time ranges?

Cheers

that's correct!

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team


Giancarlo and Bitfinex:
http://www.bfxdata.com/ is in need of help with their hosting and fees.  Since you link them on your site now, will you consider helping them?  Their site is a great companion tool to Bitfinex.  Thank you.
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I'm in serious need of better web hosting. If someone can recommend me a web hosting provider with LARGE bandwith limits (or non at all Smiley at a reasonable price, please do contact me via mail. Also I'm in serious need of donations to pay for webhosting, as it'll cost me between $45 - $100 each month to keep providing the service as before. Just keep in mind I do this for fun. I'm not sure I'll keep providing this service when it will cost me $45 per month... Rgards Bjorn
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How could offer rate be lower than demand rate?

Is it because of different swap time ranges?

Cheers

that's correct!

Have a good day

Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team
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How could offer rate be lower than demand rate?

Is it because of different swap time ranges?
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Ok, I see. You're right. And I checked it in my account — it works exactly like you said.

But using "% per 365 days" in API still looks strange and confusing.

This is for backward compatibility.

I personally have an auto swaps program to provide liquidity at the optimal rate. If they change the unit, my program would not be working.


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I think the standard business practice is to use the APR.  And it is required in some countries for at least bank loans. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_percentage_rate

It might be that from the point of view of the lender who is reinvesting profits that using the APR makes the most sense.  By contrast, for a borrower it might be the non-compounded rate that makes more sense as they don't automatically borrow more.
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Besides, in this case lenders will get more money if they will offer short (2 days) contracts.

I just wonder how many borrowers will receive such short contracts.
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