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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 185. (Read 723861 times)

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Ok, I see. You're right. And I checked it in my account — it works exactly like you said.

But using "% per 365 days" in API still looks strange and confusing.
legendary
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By the way, may I ask bitfinex guys: what kind of crazy arithmetics do you use in your api? 0.35% per day is not 128% per year, it is 258% per year.

0.35% per day it's 127.75% per year... You are the one with crazy arithmetics!
You can't just multiply the day interest by 365. If you borrow $100, and the interest rate is 0.35%, then tomorrow your debt will be $100.35, and 0.35% of $100.35 is $0.351225, not just $0.35 anymore, and so on, so on, and after a year you will owe $357.97, not $127.75.

But it's my way to calculate the interest, and the one banks uses to legaly cheat their clients. I don't know which one bitfinex uses. If somebody borrow $100 at 0.35%/day for 30 days, then after 30 days he will owe $110.50, not $111.05, or what?

It all depends if you lend the interest or not. If you lend also the interest gained every day then indeed just multiplying with 365 it's not correct, but if you don't then this is the correct interest per year.
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By the way, may I ask bitfinex guys: what kind of crazy arithmetics do you use in your api? 0.35% per day is not 128% per year, it is 258% per year.

0.35% per day it's 127.75% per year... You are the one with crazy arithmetics!
You can't just multiply the day interest by 365. If you borrow $100, and the interest rate is 0.35%, then tomorrow your debt will be $100.35, and 0.35% of $100.35 is $0.351225, not just $0.35 anymore, and so on, so on, and after a year you will owe $357.97, not $127.75.

But it's my way to calculate the interest, and the one banks uses to legaly cheat their clients. I don't know which one bitfinex uses. If somebody borrow $100 at 0.35%/day for 30 days, then after 30 days he will owe $110.50, not $111.05, or what?
Komar, you are talking about automatic compounded interest calculations and this is not what is happening at Bitfinex, but even then, the math for a year "projection" would still go by % daily times 365. The number in % you are giving is pretty much a "final percent of return on condition of 100% compounding".
Also, you cannot just give out the number (like you do for your $357.97 example) and say this is some sort of a "standard" method of calculations, because it is not. Compounding could be yearly, monthly, weekly, daily, per 10  minutes, whatever and for every single of these conditions, the end result (for return) will be different.
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By the way, may I ask bitfinex guys: what kind of crazy arithmetics do you use in your api? 0.35% per day is not 128% per year, it is 258% per year.

0.35% per day it's 127.75% per year... You are the one with crazy arithmetics!
You can't just multiply the day interest by 365. If you borrow $100, and the interest rate is 0.35%, then tomorrow your debt will be $100.35, and 0.35% of $100.35 is $0.351225, not just $0.35 anymore, and so on, so on, and after a year you will owe $357.97, not $127.75.

But it's my way to calculate the interest, and the one banks uses to legaly cheat their clients. I don't know which one bitfinex uses. If somebody borrow $100 at 0.35%/day for 30 days, then after 30 days he will owe $110.50, not $111.05, or what?
legendary
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By the way, may I ask bitfinex guys: what kind of crazy arithmetics do you use in your api? 0.35% per day is not 128% per year, it is 258% per year.

0.35% per day it's 127.75% per year... You are the one with crazy arithmetics!
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are leveraged orders  (i mean "virtual" amounts,not real)  included in the bitfinex volume?
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By the way, may I ask bitfinex guys: what kind of crazy arithmetics do you use in your api? 0.35% per day is not 128% per year, it is 258% per year.
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Unfortunately I never saw bfxdata.com website, and now it's not working.

So I spend a couple of hours and write a swap rates watchdog with charts. Feel free to hotlink the images if you need.

This is all I needed at the moment. Should I implement something else?
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Bitfinex should consider sponsoring and/or hosting the bfxdata.com website.
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KryptoBonds, Bonds Industry now in Blockchain
can someone please explain the difference of a limit price and a stop price on marginsell BTC. thank you
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Something is borked..
It looks like that for some hours now, on my side:



I still have open swap demands, so it wasn't some madman emptying the whole list.
I'd love such low FRR though ;-)

Ente
Seen this before too and it IS a your side issue (your browser actually). Just clear browser's cache and cookies, close the browser and restart it. If you haven't done this procedure for a while, do it and you'll be surprised that your Internet connection is actually much faster than you thought it is.
legendary
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I don't normally loan out as low amounts of money as 0.0 USD, but when I do, I loan them at 0.5% interest.

offer #1055142
 Cheesy

Hmm, this might be a bug. I also loaned out 0.0 with offer 946691 but at the FRR.
legendary
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I had a similar bug happening to me where one of the sides (usually the demand side) would not load at all and even reloading the page was useless. I had to completely close my browser and login in to BFX again so it would look normal again.

A relogin solved it for me too.

Ente
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Something is borked..
It looks like that for some hours now, on my side:



I still have open swap demands, so it wasn't some madman emptying the whole list.
I'd love such low FRR though ;-)

Ente
I had a similar bug happening to me where one of the sides (usually the demand side) would not load at all and even reloading the page was useless. I had to completely close my browser and login in to BFX again so it would look normal again.
legendary
Activity: 2126
Merit: 1001
Something is borked..
It looks like that for some hours now, on my side:



I still have open swap demands, so it wasn't some madman emptying the whole list.
I'd love such low FRR though ;-)

Ente
legendary
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tank you very much for your help... i tried it at bitcoinwisdom before i was writing her... but it is very much "smrearing" probably due to the fact that we are not talking about opening hours but about "awake-times" what i figured out volume is mainly between 5:30 - 8:30 AM and 21:00 - 23:30 PM... That is exactly somewhat off the normal business times  Shocked  but anyway... in a way this probably will be the future of trading times as everything is moving into the web and the most things are relatively US centric... Thank you again for your help


If you loock closely you'll see that these hours are more related to chinesee working hours.
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KryptoBonds, Bonds Industry now in Blockchain
tank you very much for your help... i tried it at bitcoinwisdom before i was writing her... but it is very much "smrearing" probably due to the fact that we are not talking about opening hours but about "awake-times" what i figured out volume is mainly between 5:30 - 8:30 AM and 21:00 - 23:30 PM... That is exactly somewhat off the normal business times  Shocked  but anyway... in a way this probably will be the future of trading times as everything is moving into the web and the most things are relatively US centric... Thank you again for your help
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Hi everybody. I am new to bifinex... and  i'm sitting in germany this means its actually UTC/GMT +2 hours...  her it is in them moment 12:06 noon (it is not +1 due to the so called summertime in germany) What i would like to know if possible... what are the main trading times here at bifinex.... when is the most volume coming through? Best would be if you could translate this to my timezone. Thank you very much
I personally do not feel the lack of action at any time of the day and that is true for any exchange (most volume spikes are usually coincide). However, if you want to confirm, your best bet would probably be to have a look at chart sites such as bitcoinwisdom.com. At BitcoinWisdom you can pick the time scale to your likes and then simply drug the chart to your right to see earlier days in the same scale, as far back in time as you want. Just watch at volume bars and corresponding times of the day.
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Hi everybody. I am new to bifinex... and  i'm sitting in germany this means its actually UTC/GMT +2 hours...  her it is in them moment 12:06 noon (it is not +1 due to the so called summertime in germany) What i would like to know if possible... what are the main trading times here at bifinex.... when is the most volume coming through? Best would be if you could translate this to my timezone. Thank you very much

You can have a closer look at the charts:
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitfinexUSD#rg5zigHourlyztgSzm1g25zm2g10zv
When looking at enough "days", you might see a pattern in volume.

Being a fellow German, I feel a bit like all the action went on when it's nighttime here. Which correlates with the US daytime. I mostly follow the margintrading and lending/borrowing stuff, though.

Ente
legendary
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Hi everybody. I am new to bifinex... and  i'm sitting in germany this means its actually UTC/GMT +2 hours...  her it is in them moment 12:06 noon (it is not +1 due to the so called summertime in germany) What i would like to know if possible... what are the main trading times here at bifinex.... when is the most volume coming through? Best would be if you could translate this to my timezone. Thank you very much

You can get all this informations by following https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd.
Please use the code 5l4wLVc4LW on registration for a 10% discount on all trading and lending fees for 30 days if you don't have an account yet.
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