[OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 216.

BitBits

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Quote from: BitBits on March 27, 2014, 11:35:06 PM

Is "Hide offer" function cancelled, or is it not working?

Cancel that. Looks like it IS actually working. I got confused because there used to be a minimum of 100 BTC order required for "Hidden" orders placement in the past.

P.S. I wonder how many more people are annoyed by this CambioBTC character?

nrd525

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It could get interesting if the Chinese exchanges decide to move to Hong Kong.

LOADING.READY.RUN

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Quote from: CambioBTC on March 27, 2014, 08:12:31 PM

Just thinking about the new OCO - One cancel the other Feature,

Nice,
But I also remember you guys saying that if one gets partially filled
that it still cancels the other, that would mean that in all actuality
that a partially filled order could result in leaving a open position
without a stop, naked.

Yep, that was me -- that's exactly the point. OCO (i.e. combination of stop-loss and limit order) is meant to protect your position, no matter what the market is doing. The current implementation leaves you naked (or half-naked) if a position gets half filled.

I really don't understand the logic behind the current behaviour. Both OCO orders should be reduced by the same amount when one of them gets partially filled, so your positions stays protected.

CambioBTC

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Quote from: richardweiming on March 28, 2014, 04:23:30 AM

How to cancel a usd withdraw? It is pending but not processed yet.
I want to use it now instead of withdraw.

Now this is a question I can answer, you can't,
Same thing happen to me the day before the Christmas Rally,

Withdrawal was pending from a fresh withdrawal not even 30-min old,
rally started, I wanted to cancel, and could not,
and believe it or not, Giancarlo actually answered that question,
said that because the way their withdrawals are set up to be rapid, they can't be canceled.

Hope This Helps !
Happy Trading

CambioBTC

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Quote from: BitBits on March 27, 2014, 11:35:06 PM

Is "Hide offer" function cancelled, or is it not working?

I used to work with plain horrible programmer on some project a while back, where every fucking single time some modification to the script is made by him, some other feature on the site get's screwed up and stops working or is malfunctioning, because of the new change introduced. The worst part is that when the site is heavily multifunctional, there is no way to know which feature gets screwed, until one tries to use it. It was really becoming a nightmare when these secondary issues were getting "fixed" and thus the troubles where just mounting at a snowball rate, with every next fucking "fix". I really hope this is not the case at Bitfinex, I honestly do!!!

Quote from: BitBits on March 27, 2014, 11:40:19 PM

Quote from: CambioBTC on March 27, 2014, 08:12:31 PM

... Never can get any "Trading" questions answered in this thread,
everyone is only concerned with lending, geez !

Makes one think why, doesn't it?
...Just a thought: Could it be that it is YOUR particular questions that don't get answered?

Listen "Troll",
No I doubt that,

Firstly,
I seriously doubt from your posts
that I read that you are qualified to answer any questions, Noob !

Appears that you are simply paranoid
from that Programmer that fucked you over and pretty much told you to go to hell,
Thumbs up to the Programmer for properly handling yet another useless ass !, way to go, Grin

Now if you noticed, no one has bothered to answer your question or any other recent questions,
TRADING questions always take a backseat in this thread simply because it's a LENDER based thread
that's only concerned with how much interest they can charge, thus the need for Customer Service.

Also if you don't like BitFinex, simply "Go Some Where Else", don't think anyone will miss you,
as Giancarlo has said more than once, "You are not obliged to Stay", now I see just what type of customer he is directing that comment at, hint ?

Obviously you are doing something wrong, the "Hide" feature works just fine for me !

Read all your posts, appears you spend your entire time "Trolling" this thread, all of your posts are useless !
In short, "You add ZERO Value", take a hike and get lost.

richardweiming

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How to cancel a usd withdraw? It is pending but not processed yet.
I want to use it now instead of withdraw.

Ente

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Quote from: whatthesith on March 28, 2014, 02:54:53 AM

Quote from: TERA on March 28, 2014, 02:28:14 AM

Did bitfinex fix the problem where, in order to trade using the trading wallet, you were having to borrow usd and were getting charged swap fees even if you held enough usd in the wallet to cover the trade? I would prefer to be able to handle all of my trading through the trading wallet and not have to move everything to exchange wallet and trade there when I want to go long (to avoid interest) and then move back to trading wallet when I'm ready to leverage. That's too much trouble and it doesn't make sense that I'd have to borrow money and get charged interest when I have enough USD to cover the trade.

Go long with leverage -> Trading wallet
Go long without leverage -> Exchange wallet

Yep. That's not a bug, that's the only reasonable way to separate the things.
It works the other way too: You won't lose your funds in other wallet types when you are liquidated, for example.

Ente

whatthesith

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simply getting the job done

Quote from: TERA on March 28, 2014, 02:28:14 AM

Did bitfinex fix the problem where, in order to trade using the trading wallet, you were having to borrow usd and were getting charged swap fees even if you held enough usd in the wallet to cover the trade? I would prefer to be able to handle all of my trading through the trading wallet and not have to move everything to exchange wallet and trade there when I want to go long (to avoid interest) and then move back to trading wallet when I'm ready to leverage. That's too much trouble and it doesn't make sense that I'd have to borrow money and get charged interest when I have enough USD to cover the trade.

Go long with leverage -> Trading wallet
Go long without leverage -> Exchange wallet

TERA

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Did bitfinex fix the problem where, in order to trade using the trading wallet, you were having to borrow usd and were getting charged swap fees even if you held enough usd in the wallet to cover the trade? I would prefer to be able to handle all of my trading through the trading wallet and not have to move everything to exchange wallet and trade there when I want to go long (to avoid interest) and then move back to trading wallet when I'm ready to leverage. That's too much trouble and it doesn't make sense that I'd have to borrow money and get charged interest when I have enough USD to cover the trade.

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Quote from: BitBits on March 28, 2014, 12:07:33 AM

Quote from: flower1024 on March 27, 2014, 11:52:00 PM

tell your "programmer" about a brand new innovation: unit- and integration tests

Thank you, I do appreciate the advice, but like I said, that "encounter" was in the past and I did had to tell him "differently". ...I don't really know the whereabouts of that programmer from that point on.

i was a little sarcastic - 6am here...sorry
but seriously: if a developer faces the problem that any change produces more and other bugs its time to start over with proper testing (and he should not have developed it that way in the first place).

BitBits

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Quote from: flower1024 on March 27, 2014, 11:52:00 PM

tell your "programmer" about a brand new innovation: unit- and integration tests

Thank you, I do appreciate the advice, but like I said, that "encounter" was in the past and I did had to tell him "differently". ...I don't really know the whereabouts of that programmer from that point on.

flower1024

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Quote from: BitBits on March 27, 2014, 11:35:06 PM

Is "Hide offer" function cancelled, or is it not working?

I used to work with plain horrible programmer on some project a while back, where every fucking single time some modification to the script is made by him, some other feature on the site get's screwed up and stops working or is malfunctioning, because of the new change introduced. The worst part is that when the site is heavily multifunctional, there is no way to know which feature gets screwed, until one tries to use it. It was really becoming a nightmare when these secondary issues were getting "fixed" and thus the troubles where just mounting at a snowball rate, with every next fucking "fix". I really hope this is not the case at Bitfinex, I honestly do!!!

tell your "programmer" about a brand new innovation: unit- and integration tests

BitBits

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Quote from: CambioBTC on March 27, 2014, 08:12:31 PM

... Never can get any "Trading" questions answered in this thread,
everyone is only concerned with lending, geez !

Makes one think why, doesn't it?
...Just a thought: Could it be that it is YOUR particular questions that don't get answered?

BitBits

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Is "Hide offer" function cancelled, or is it not working?

I used to work with plain horrible programmer on some project a while back, where every fucking single time some modification to the script is made by him, some other feature on the site get's screwed up and stops working or is malfunctioning, because of the new change introduced. The worst part is that when the site is heavily multifunctional, there is no way to know which feature gets screwed, until one tries to use it. It was really becoming a nightmare when these secondary issues were getting "fixed" and thus the troubles where just mounting at a snowball rate, with every next fucking "fix". I really hope this is not the case at Bitfinex, I honestly do!!!

CambioBTC

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Just thinking about the new OCO - One cancel the other Feature,

Nice,
But I also remember you guys saying that if one gets partially filled
that it still cancels the other, that would mean that in all actuality
that a partially filled order could result in leaving a open position
without a stop, naked.

Also, shouldn't the other stop not used be automatically greyed
out or something upon choosing if one is going to buy or sell,
that extra stop being there needing to be deleted would be
better served if automatically greyed out and rendered in-active, no ?

Never can get any "Trading" questions answered in this thread,
everyone is only concerned with lending, geez !

CambioBTC

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Wow,

Thanks BitFinex Team,

Just discovered that the BitFinex website
is actually fluid, being a WebSite designer
at times on my own projects I was surprised
to discover this.

Currently in Cancun, Mexico and yet to get out and
source the much needed Nvidia geforce video cards,
to allow me to set up a 4 to 6 monitor setup I'm currently
working with only 2-monitors.

I'm sure you designed the BitFinex site to be fluid to work
with Tablets and Cellular Phones, but works great with
Fox Splitter, a add-on for FireFox also:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fox-splitter/

This has helped solve a MAJOR problem for me, thanks for the "ForeTHOUGHT" !

Big Thumbs-Up to the BitFinex Team !

GurungBoi

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FIXEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

CambioBTC

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Quote from: Ente on March 27, 2014, 06:27:24 AM

Guys, get your 101 "Free market: Demand and supply" together! :-P

The only reason why swap rates go down, is, because it'#s unattractive to lend and do margin trading. We are in bull territory, for months, and will probably stay here for another while.
It'll go up to rates "noone can imagine" as soon as the next wave, cycle, bubble, madness starts over again.

Until then, yes, flash rate is good enough for me, lending out in USD.
I agree, trying to tweak the rate manually leaves you out of the loop too much. And is more of a hassle anyway.

Ente

+1,

Ente

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Guys, get your 101 "Free market: Demand and supply" together! :-P

The only reason why swap rates go down, is, because it'#s unattractive to lend and do margin trading. We are in bull territory, for months, and will probably stay here for another while.
It'll go up to rates "noone can imagine" as soon as the next wave, cycle, bubble, madness starts over again.

Until then, yes, flash rate is good enough for me, lending out in USD.
I agree, trying to tweak the rate manually leaves you out of the loop too much. And is more of a hassle anyway.

Ente

MustMan

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Quote from: aragalie on March 27, 2014, 12:17:28 AM

Yes, in the long term, if rates drop dramatically, the lenders will pull out their money and move them somewhere else. But, for the money that are in BFX at any point in time, the optimal financial strategy is to lend them out at whatever rate you can. Thus the reason for "auto lend" option and the prevailing use of the Flash Rate rate to auto-lend the money on a recurring basis.

If you take all that i've said before into consideration, you will see why very low lending rates are possible and even probable, and such a situation can only improve/reverse if BFX takes active steps in limiting the minimum rate.

My guess is that if most of the lenders take the same strategy of lending out their money at whatever rate they can, seems it is the case gradually happening right now, then in the long term, lending rates would be becoming more and more competing and that will inevitably lead to a very very low lending rate beyond anybody could think of.

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