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December 23, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
Do NOT make any outbound transactions from your main wallet
I had my 100 FLY in my wallet for some time. Before "Savings" function as added, I staked (and received SuperFLY rewards) coins. Now I have about 104 FLY. Can I withdraw these 4 FLY?
And by the way, please update OP post (list of members qualified to receive SuperFLY rewards).

Somehow, your withdraw question was overlooked so I will TRY to answer it for you. If you were staking to your 'MAIN' wallet to give you the 104 FLY total, I would not try to withdraw. It would mess up your staking and you will get hit with large transaction fees. If you stake to your 'Saving(s)' wallet the transaction fee is lower. It's like your pocket change, to spend as you wish. However, the last I heard, even the Saving(s) wallet is temporarily being hit with the higher fees. So my suggestion is: Let your FLY sit in your wallet for now. Make sure you 'claim' your addresses and just enjoy the staking rewards.

I hope this helped. Feel free to ask away if you have further questions.

CapnBDL
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December 23, 2015, 10:05:18 AM
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I will update qualified members of superfly soon. Im going to do something very awesome on a very special day coming up  Roll Eyes

.... and speaking of that .. someone rich enough to hold over 600 FLY was kind enough to donate 185 fly .. its a bit early for Christmas, but thanks to the kind donor Wink

http://fly.dnsalias.com/tx/53c4e5df6467ea3da1fa7cb45bc3fa68dbbe0eb6125b9281bb7b25611116f567

Vegas
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December 23, 2015, 09:57:34 AM
Xprophet you can also use the bootstrap on the OP. That solved my problem too, for now.

http://www.keesdewit.nl/downloads/fly/bootstrap.zip

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December 23, 2015, 09:52:22 AM
Do NOT make any outbound transactions from your main wallet
I had my 100 FLY in my wallet for some time. Before "Savings" function as added, I staked (and received SuperFLY rewards) coins. Now I have about 104 FLY. Can I withdraw these 4 FLY?
And by the way, please update OP post (list of members qualified to receive SuperFLY rewards).

Hey Xprophet , good to see you my friend. Yes, you can withdraw from the Crytopia. There is a known bug in our last wallet. When you close it an reopen it , it reverts back to December 13th and starts syncing again. It can get stuck for 30 minutes , but if you leave it , it will sync all the way. This has already been fixed in our next code, and a wallet should be released today or tomorrow with that fix.

I will update qualified members of superfly soon. Im going to do something very awesome on a very special day coming up Smiley

Vegas
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December 23, 2015, 09:49:54 AM
This morning my FLY wallet stuck at some block (sorry can't remember its number, but it was "away" from the last block for about 2300 blocks) for 15 minutes with 11 connections, then my walelt hanged for a minute and then crashed. I am using the latest available executable from OP... Tried everything: resync, using bootstrap, emptying the folder. Did not help at all Sad Now wallet just crashes (automatically closes after splash image) every time I launch it. What to do?

 i'd try syncing a fresh wallet, then replace the virgin .dat with your current one. has worked for me once or twice. glad to step you through it if you need help with it  Wink   
      - make and store safely a copy of  wallet.dat first, ofcourse
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December 23, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
Do NOT make any outbound transactions from your main wallet
I had my 100 FLY in my wallet for some time. Before "Savings" function as added, I staked (and received SuperFLY rewards) coins. Now I have about 104 FLY. Can I withdraw these 4 FLY?
And by the way, please update OP post (list of members qualified to receive SuperFLY rewards).
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December 23, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
This morning my FLY wallet stuck at some block (sorry can't remember its number, but it was "away" from the last block for about 2300 blocks) for 15 minutes with 11 connections, then my walelt hanged for a minute and then crashed. I am using the latest available executable from OP... Tried everything: resync, using bootstrap, emptying the folder. Did not help at all Sad Now wallet just crashes (automatically closes after splash image) every time I launch it. What to do?
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December 23, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
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I think there should be some clarity around the superfly wallet and how it distributes funds.

This is a GREAT question.

The superfly wallet is the heart of FLY. Its does so much. It solves issues that many other coins face. Its primary function before anything else is to stake to users that support fly (requirements posted below). See I have incredibly high goals for FLY. I will reach those goals too. I wont stop until I do. FLY will be WELL over $5 within 6 months, and even higher within a year. To do this , I knew that I would face all kinds of issues. So the Superfly Wallet is also a multifunction wallet. Its a community fund that helps me deal with the complex challenges that came with my radical unorthodox coin. Now , I always label my transactions when I make them, but I want to post a detailed ledger of what I did and why. Ive used it for many purposes that are all in the name of good.

Examples:

Ive sent small amounts of FLY to Cpnbdl to give away and promote on Cryptopia.
Ive sent small amounts to devs for testing new wallet releases (5 - 10) coins.
Okane81 lost .85 FLY because of some sort of glitch in the wallet, so I sent him that.
When BTC-BTC didnt have a withdrawal exemption he accidentally paid 5 coins to superfly in withdrawal fees and I confirmed it and refunded.

These are just some of the examples of the small transactions I do. If its any large amount, I will make it public with a full explanation. Also I encourage any and all to audit the wallet and ask about any transactions. This money is NOT mine. Im just the treasurer/controller. It belongs to the community. So im incredibly careful what the funds are used for, and Im ready to explain any and all transactions. Every transaction also has a known address. So I never send funds to an address that is not claimed on the richlist. So thats another easy way to see where the funds go. Originally it was to be funded by our large sending fees that EVERYONE must pay including myself. The good news is it stopped any kind of dumping keeping prices high. The bad news is , the only funds people did move were in tiny amounts like 1 or 2 coins to @ 2% fee to avoid high fees. That was not near enough to fund superfly. That is were the 10% stake fee came in to play. So to summarize its primary function is to stake to users that "support fly" , and after that its a multifunction wallet to "smooth the ride, during turbulence".

Ok so I want to define the criteria to meet the requirements to get rewards from Superfly:

Hold atleast 100 FLY , but no more than 5000 FLY in your fly wallet (User that hold over 5000 fly do not get rewards, we are exempt by choice).
Do NOT make any outbound transactions from your main wallet
Claim your wallet address on the richlist by contacting Keesdewit
"Support FLY". Heres were there is a lot of confusion. I really wanted to keep this part simple , and an easy requirement to meet. So I just threw out an idea and said post on any social media once a week about fly to a social media engine that is cryptocoin related ,and post a link on the fly thread. But then, I realized quickly that not everyone is a social butterfly. Im not. So I dont know why I didnt see this. So, support could look many different ways. Capnbdl says he spends alot of time in the trolls rooms, so I suggested he promote fly that way, and wow, has he ever!!! A few users are bilingual , so they created a thread in their native language like my friend Xprophet who is fluent in Russian, and a few others have created a thread in their native language. So you can come up with your own idea. The main thing is supporting fly. It could even be taking turns with me bashing trolls, or being VERY active on the fly thread , and being truly involved and helping users understand fly. It must be provable in some way. So get creative. It doesnt even have to be much, just show that you truly support fly and want to see it the #1 altcoin of all time and stay that way.

Vegas






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December 23, 2015, 08:37:56 AM
We are still polishing the code, and when the updates slow down which should be very soon, we will get a mac wallet released. Also there was a user called c00p3r that was compiling mac wallets for us at no cost, but I have not seen him around. Feel free to pm him.

Vegas
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December 23, 2015, 01:52:54 AM
Is there a Mac wallet planned for FLY, I would like to invest some but prefer to run things on a Mac...
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December 22, 2015, 09:50:56 PM
@Kiklo. I enjoy an intelligent conversation, even if the other sides does not agree.

So, I have a question.

Put yourself in my shoes for a moment. You are now an alpha male, an over achiever. You want BADLY to be the #1 cryptocoin, bar none. You quickly find out that in order to do that youll have be create the most awesome coin ever in crypto. To do that youll need 3 VERY experienced devs to work on a horribly complex code. As the months go by you watch your btc wallet balance go down and down. Soon youll be out of btc. What do you do? What is a better way?

Vegas

ZEIT is going about it in a different way, what gives our coin value is the presence of each new Knight and over time will get us where we want to be.
Dumps just become an opportunity for New Knights to join, so we make it work for us.
 
At Fly you are trying to achieve your goals in a much faster time frame, while you do have strength in your core members willing to hold out for a life long goal.
The traders & dumpers only want a quick buck, so you need a quick way to switch fly with BTC to compensate.

Crypto Raffle & Games is the only thing that comes to mind.
Some play to earn BTC and some play to earn Fly, but either way the house pulls in enough to support the coin.
example :
Raffle of $25 Bucks in BTC ,
100 tickets sold at $1 worth of Fly per ticket
&
Raffle of $25 Bucks in Fly
100 tickets sold at $1 worth of BTC per ticket

You will need to check with http://gaming.nv.gov or if you have a friend in a casino, he might have some advice.
Side Note: Non-Profit Organizations are legally allowed to run raffles
http://www.nonprofitaccountingbasics.org/special-events-fundraising/raffles-right-way
 
 Cool
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December 22, 2015, 08:54:10 PM
Is it worth a few % of your coins to own a portion of the SAFEST and most awesome coin on the planet that will get better and better everyday, with technology that other devs cant even dream of!?!?

To me .... without a doubt!!!

Vegas
Hi,

I strongly agree that it is absolutely worth it and I am ok with contributing 10% of my rewards to the development costs. This is a long term coin that I intend to come out well in front with. However, I must admit I am concerned about the ever changing purpose of the superfly wallet. Not because I will ever stand to gain anything from it personally. I am simply not active enough online to qualify for a weekly payout. Its not why I invested in FLY but its why many others might.

I look at fly as an investment that pays me every seven days in funds that I can put up for sale, the fees and rules in place ensure I dont dump my holdings or that I cannot really do anything with the coin but increase my capital amount, which entitles me to a bigger payment every week.

I think there should be some clarity around the superfly wallet and how it distributes funds. Apart from my planned use for FLY mentioned above, this is still one of the biggest selling points for this coin as a means of gaining new investors. It should be a major selling point and people need to understand how its going to work if they are expected to invest with confidence. Id guess that like me, most small holders will not qualify for weekly payments but if they do, what portion of the funds are attributed to 'small holders' and how do people qualify? What portion goes to the private sales, what is used for funding 'scammed users' of other coins as mentioned in the OP?

Please do not take this as any kind of mistrust, just clarification. Vegas has already gone above and beyond to help me personally receive lost funds due to a wallet error and I completely understand that the development costs can be spread across the community, Vegas should not have to continually fund it all himself.



 


 
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December 22, 2015, 08:24:50 PM
Lol i recived a pm today informing me that one of my posts had been removed by the mods. Im just going to go ahead and assume its because it contained quotes from one of the few fudders we had around here a few weeks ago though theirs and the rest of the conversation is still there. Im actually really confused as to why that post in particular was singled out but w/e some things are best left unsaid, they say... apparently you can get caught in the cross fire while spraying trolls with the hose   Grin

Needless to say, thank you vegas for acting on that. I can finally frequent the thread again without sifting through shit posts and read what i come here for.. carry on..

Thanks for the compliment, but this is an "unmoderated thread". That means I cannot delete anyones post except my own. Also it says the name of the person in the email that deleted the post. If it says it was deleted by "Bitcoin", thats a very high ranking mod. If I was to guess, the fudsters brought major attention to themselves by bombing us with fud, and I think one or more got banned.

But I made it an unmoderated thread on purpose in an effort to hear everyone , even if I agreed or not. But the mods are on these guys, and watching.

Vegas

Yeah I'm aware of the thread being unmoderated.  It was a bitcointalk mod that removed the post. I thanked you because i figured you reported them..  that was more along the lines of harassment than trolling..
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December 22, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
In my opinion it is not possible to make the idea of team fly without a level od centralization, it is tru than devs need to eat, personally i think with the 10% tax above stake would be enough and leave the fee to the stakeholders but really it is a private coins, with his advantages and dissavantages

Nicely said!! Thank you.

Also I am open to suggestions on better ways. We MUST fund the devs. I can tell you for a fact we have the best 3. The most talented. So Im open to other ideas to fund them. The community has enormous power. I dont want to upset even one person, and thats the truth. But I quickly realized why coins fail, and I have put many different counter measures in to prevent that. So everything I do, is for you guys. I get NOTHING from taxing myself , knowing I will pay the most in and nothing back out. What does that say about my agenda?

You guys will drop to 45% POS instead of 50%, and then get rewards from Superfly that will bring you back to close to 50% or more.

So Its what I can come up with right now, and it can be changed, and Im open to ideas.

Is it worth a few % of your coins to own a portion of the SAFEST and most awesome coin on the planet that will get better and better everyday, with technology that other devs cant even dream of!?!?

To me .... without a doubt!!!

Vegas
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December 22, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
In my opinion it is not possible to make the idea of team fly without a level od centralization, it is tru than devs need to eat, personally i think with the 10% tax above stake would be enough and leave the fee to the stakeholders but really it is a private coins, with his advantages and dissavantages
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December 22, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
Lol i recived a pm today informing me that one of my posts had been removed by the mods. Im just going to go ahead and assume its because it contained quotes from one of the few fudders we had around here a few weeks ago though theirs and the rest of the conversation is still there. Im actually really confused as to why that post in particular was singled out but w/e some things are best left unsaid, they say... apparently you can get caught in the cross fire while spraying trolls with the hose   Grin

Needless to say, thank you vegas for acting on that. I can finally frequent the thread again without sifting through shit posts and read what i come here for.. carry on..

Thanks for the compliment, but this is an "unmoderated thread". That means I cannot delete anyones post except my own. Also it says the name of the person in the email that deleted the post. If it says it was deleted by "Bitcoin", thats a very high ranking mod. If I was to guess, the fudsters brought major attention to themselves by bombing us with fud, and I think one or more got banned.

But I made it an unmoderated thread on purpose in an effort to hear everyone , even if I agreed or not. But the mods are on these guys, and watching.

Vegas
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December 22, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
@Kiklo. I enjoy an intelligent conversation, even if the other sides does not agree.

So, I have a question.

Put yourself in my shoes for a moment. You are now an alpha male, an over achiever. You want BADLY to be the #1 cryptocoin, bar none. You quickly find out that in order to do that youll have be create the most awesome coin ever in crypto. To do that youll need 3 VERY experienced devs to work on a horribly complex code. As the months go by you watch your btc wallet balance go down and down. Soon youll be out of btc. What do you do? What is a better way?

Vegas
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December 22, 2015, 08:06:01 PM
Lol i recived a pm today informing me that one of my posts had been removed by the mods. Im just going to go ahead and assume its because it contained quotes from one of the few fudders we had around here a few weeks ago though theirs and the rest of the conversation is still there. Im actually really confused as to why that post in particular was singled out but w/e some things are best left unsaid, they say... apparently you can get caught in the cross fire while spraying trolls with the hose   Grin

Needless to say, thank you vegas for acting on that. I can finally frequent the thread again without sifting through shit posts and read what i come here for.. carry on..
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December 22, 2015, 07:01:46 PM
Hmmm,

This is not meant to endorse or create discourse in the conversation.
Merely an observation, IMO, as others may differ.

Whether by original design or the natural sequence of events to hamper dumping ,
Fly's design is becoming a parallel of a government style tax system.

The Superfly wallet emulates the Gov tax authority , collecting tax.
The Transactions fees emulate the sales tax charged during transactions.
The 10% fee on staking emulates the income tax.

I only mention this , so you can use it to help predict future events with Fly before they occur,
By studying the percentages charged in the real world economics for sales tax and income taxes,
seeing what rates have beneficial verses negative effects, should help you optimize the Fly Fee Structure to minimize future discourse.

----Snip----
 Cool
Great observations and suggestions! I would add that many coins die or suspend development because the coin is not funded. The dev. dumps and walks.
Here everyone pays the Tx fees which go into the SuperFly wallet. A portion is set for development - the balance is set to come back
 to the Small holders who claim name, etc. What it does is effectively reduce the current rate from 50% to 45% which is still not
a bad stake %. but then, reward those that are holding with SuperFly rewards. Since the top holders are not eligible for SuperFly rewards
they pay into the system but do not get any FLY out. The smaller holders then get the effective 45% rate plus the bonus distributions.

This % is an initial starting point with plans to reduce the fee as the wallet development slows to periodic inprovements. Distributions
to small holders will always continue. One new feature I like is the always automatically updated bootstrap found in the Ann.
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