Just because what some people say in that channel does not mean that it is Core's position on something. Just because people are in that channel does not mean that they are part of the Core dev team. Just because someone supports Core does not mean that they are affiliated with Core in any way. Please stop spreading misinformation about what "Core does ...", "Core's position...", "Core's willfulness/understanding of/etc...". Those people in the slack channel are not Core, do not represent Core.
Very few, of the actual developers who work on Bitcoin Core actual frequent that slack channel (or any other public forum to communicate with the general populace) and post there. You may find one, maybe 2 people who frequently contribute to Core there, so please don't attribute everything that is being said there to what the people on the Core dev team actually think, know, or believe.
Topic: Open Letter to GMaxwell and Sincere Rational Core Devs - page 51. (Read 34840 times)
(edit: to be fair Gmax told me 'afaik there are no core devs in that slack)
I was in core’s slack for 2 days. I had dialogue with about 10 players including Adam Back. Each of them (excluding Back) made fun of me as soon as I started talking. Some of them were disgustingly cruel. One of them berated me for quite some time about how value and price are the same thing (hint: they aren’t).
But over some period of time I was able to convince the sincere ones, that I absolutely know what I am talking about when it comes the macro-economics implications of bitcoin. I suspect Back is one of them because he said I might be able to convince Ver to lift his tacit assumptions and that Trace Mayer would probably be really interested in the subject of the macro-economic implications of bitcoin (Trace would be FAR more interested in my understanding of David Bohm’s work).
But the berating of me wouldn’t stop, and so when I bit back I was warned. I was in a private dialogue with shino who asked me to calm down, I explained I am calm but not being treated fairly when another “mod” moved me to the troll thread and said I am only welcome there.
I refuse to speak from that position. It’s terrible treatment, simply for the fact that I have something to offer that brings awareness to core’s ignorance.
Shinmonkey knows that I know what I am talking about, and yet they have decided that they understand Nash’s argument while simultaneously confessing that they haven’t read it. They DON’T understand. But shino understands enough to confirm that I know what I am talking about, and they were also one that was making fun of my intelligence. But then started to defend me and tell others to spend time with the points I am making because they are clearly (supra-)rational.
I watched brg444 as they allowed tdny to continually bash me about value and price. tdny I don’t know if they are a core dev but I do know if they are they are a security leak. Their ignorance is astounding and they think value and price are the same thing.
Core is being irresponsible. You cannot decide the fate of bitcoin while ignoring the macro-economic implications of it. This is a very important technology and the direction we take it matters.
I did not find a single scientist in that group (save Back). Every person was willing to argue against Nash argument without hearing it. And when I suggested they read the source material the general consensus was there is no need to (WHEN is this acceptable?).
I showed a superior communication protocol and explained why it is relevant, and not a single developer there can recognize a communication protocol when they see it. That’s a problem.
For 20 years John Nash expounded on what could happen if an international e-currency with a stably issued supply was released unto our global financial system. He was incredibly methodical in his explanation and his works will have a profound impact on how our global civilization will unfold. It is an argument Nash had been refining for nearly 70 years.
Core remains willfully ignorant of his works.
I say willfully because enough players in that group are now aware that they are wrong about how they view the macro-economic implications of bitcoin. Even the player that thinks value and price are the same thing and thinks that my arguments are unfounded illogical and backwards knows that they cannot hold a candle to me on this subject.
It cannot be that in the face of truth there is only fear, attack, and rejection of it.
I was told my tone is bad and so my argument is wrong. It’s not my argument, it’s John Nash’s and it’s not wrong. It’s certainly not wrong because core is unwillingly to learn about it.
I have shown that core is making haphazard choices with the direction they are taking bitcoin. I have shown that if core doesn’t consider Nash’s argument when making choices there is great potential to destroy bitcoin’s gold like qualities. This would affect bitcoin’s value and could endanger the project.
Core’s ignorance is it’s biggest security leak.
I was in core’s slack for 2 days. I had dialogue with about 10 players including Adam Back. Each of them (excluding Back) made fun of me as soon as I started talking. Some of them were disgustingly cruel. One of them berated me for quite some time about how value and price are the same thing (hint: they aren’t).
But over some period of time I was able to convince the sincere ones, that I absolutely know what I am talking about when it comes the macro-economics implications of bitcoin. I suspect Back is one of them because he said I might be able to convince Ver to lift his tacit assumptions and that Trace Mayer would probably be really interested in the subject of the macro-economic implications of bitcoin (Trace would be FAR more interested in my understanding of David Bohm’s work).
But the berating of me wouldn’t stop, and so when I bit back I was warned. I was in a private dialogue with shino who asked me to calm down, I explained I am calm but not being treated fairly when another “mod” moved me to the troll thread and said I am only welcome there.
I refuse to speak from that position. It’s terrible treatment, simply for the fact that I have something to offer that brings awareness to core’s ignorance.
Shinmonkey knows that I know what I am talking about, and yet they have decided that they understand Nash’s argument while simultaneously confessing that they haven’t read it. They DON’T understand. But shino understands enough to confirm that I know what I am talking about, and they were also one that was making fun of my intelligence. But then started to defend me and tell others to spend time with the points I am making because they are clearly (supra-)rational.
I watched brg444 as they allowed tdny to continually bash me about value and price. tdny I don’t know if they are a core dev but I do know if they are they are a security leak. Their ignorance is astounding and they think value and price are the same thing.
Core is being irresponsible. You cannot decide the fate of bitcoin while ignoring the macro-economic implications of it. This is a very important technology and the direction we take it matters.
I did not find a single scientist in that group (save Back). Every person was willing to argue against Nash argument without hearing it. And when I suggested they read the source material the general consensus was there is no need to (WHEN is this acceptable?).
I showed a superior communication protocol and explained why it is relevant, and not a single developer there can recognize a communication protocol when they see it. That’s a problem.
For 20 years John Nash expounded on what could happen if an international e-currency with a stably issued supply was released unto our global financial system. He was incredibly methodical in his explanation and his works will have a profound impact on how our global civilization will unfold. It is an argument Nash had been refining for nearly 70 years.
Core remains willfully ignorant of his works.
I say willfully because enough players in that group are now aware that they are wrong about how they view the macro-economic implications of bitcoin. Even the player that thinks value and price are the same thing and thinks that my arguments are unfounded illogical and backwards knows that they cannot hold a candle to me on this subject.
It cannot be that in the face of truth there is only fear, attack, and rejection of it.
I was told my tone is bad and so my argument is wrong. It’s not my argument, it’s John Nash’s and it’s not wrong. It’s certainly not wrong because core is unwillingly to learn about it.
I have shown that core is making haphazard choices with the direction they are taking bitcoin. I have shown that if core doesn’t consider Nash’s argument when making choices there is great potential to destroy bitcoin’s gold like qualities. This would affect bitcoin’s value and could endanger the project.
Core’s ignorance is it’s biggest security leak.
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