DZ.
While you're refunding R18 you can refund my R17 shares, as politely requested several times.
I have also PM'd both you and bobsag and neither of you could be bothered with the common courtesy of a response. A marked contrast to the prompt responses when I was buying.
I will never partake in any of your future buys, having lost BTC on your scams twice now.
Topic: [OPEN] R18x: 1 TH/s Bitmine Rig, $70 = 10-15GH/s. Jan. '14 + DZ MC Bonuses - page 3. (Read 18424 times)
March 28, 2014, 04:33:12 AM
March 28, 2014, 03:22:42 AM
While they're shipping units, they're so late, and there's enough momentum, that the Refund Request Form is going in tomorrow. I would've sent it tonight but I don't have a scanner to scan my ID which they're requiring for refunds.
The refund form says that the refund should be processed in 30 days. When it arrives I'll be sending the BTC to Thomas to deliver your refunds (minus a small refund fee). BM is doing a conversion so they're sending the current USD equivalent of the BTC we sent at time of ordering.
The refund form says that the refund should be processed in 30 days. When it arrives I'll be sending the BTC to Thomas to deliver your refunds (minus a small refund fee). BM is doing a conversion so they're sending the current USD equivalent of the BTC we sent at time of ordering.
March 25, 2014, 06:25:41 AM
CoinCraft Rig status updates
Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
This is the update, a vote can be put up (ie post in this thread your username / number of shares / if you want to proceed with a refund) to attempt to receive a refund from Bitmine.Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
railzand / 1 share / refund
March 24, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Any update on this?
I'd love to get a refund....
I'd love to get a refund....
March 22, 2014, 05:06:59 PM
March 22, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
Still waiting on my R17 refund. Three PMs to bobsag and at least two forum posts on the relevant thread. Have sent DZ and bobsag one last PM before I'm calling this coop a scam.
The co-op was a scam from the get-go, of which I've shown on a myriad of threads, with ~300 posts on Black Arrow that were deleted, including the following:
Well, I cancelled and got a full refund (minus 20 dollars) from Minersource, was pretty quick and painless.
Lucky for you..........
I've been dealing with Matt @ Minersource for 2.5 weeks...
Now that my order has been canceled. Still no refund yet.
At one point, I got an email that wire is on my way (which I never received).
It was $49 off what I paid for my order.
This is exactly what I'm concerned about, cancelling but ending up with both no order spot and no money back.
bobsag3 / Matt
Please refund my money!
I just sent you another email!
Still no words/replies from Matt yet on the status of my refund.
I'm going to PM him on this forum just to make sure...........
He'll just reply with "No way, Jose!" then quote BA's stance on refunds. Remember, Matty Boy is just a vetted reseller. Correction! The first ever double-vetted Bitcoiner that was BA's first vetted reseller.
Any questions?
Q1: Yes, I have one. Who vetted him?
A1: Only John K., who's no longer around, and some new dude from Hawaii, the same state that John K. is from.
Q2: And this makes Matt viable?
A1: That and this:
Hookah. Check! Skype contacts. Check! Matt's first and second warehouse in Missouri being the same warehouse. Check!
Let's revisit Black Arrow's first trustworthy reseller, shall we?
From the desk of Bobsag3, a.k.a. Matt Carson, Black Arrow's first and #1 reseller for their miners.
I never ended up moving to another warehouse in Rolla, just the one. We went right from small warehouse in rolla > denver warehouse in one move, early Jan.
We paid for every month, and if your in contact with who you should be to verify that kind of info, they will verify it. So yes, your blowing smoke up peoples asses.
And with that im done on the subject. I think people have seen im more than up front compared to most here- but lets stay on topic about BA, or about actual minersource orders.
Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations. Originally posted in Black Arrow's self-moderated thread, but quickly deleted for being...wait for it..off-topic (and that I was trolling, so they claim). Black Arrow has proof that Matt Carson can NOT be trusted, but continue to use him as their official reseller in the US. If I were to use Tom Williams, of mybitcoin.com, as my official reseller for some product, stating that people change, would I be able to sell many product, Alex Sovu, of cardreaderfactory.com? Me, the asshole, no think so, yet...
BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.
Building was purchased today!
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man
Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks.
BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.
Major Update!
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
Major Update!
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
Building acquired
I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give concrete delivery.
I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet. That'd be my recommendation
Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures.
I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup
. And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex.
Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:
This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts.
Shenzhen, China 11/26/2013 8:05 P.M. Departure Scan
Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info? When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California.
I will be shipping out from Central MO.
Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.
I got ya covered 
But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v
November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3723600
No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out.
On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:
This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU. You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining. Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled. The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.
The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.
On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.
I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems.
I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them.
Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?
We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there .
ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
.ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minersourcenet-miner-hosting-llc-cheap-and-secure-hosting-and-sales-288012
We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!
BUILDING #3:
Somewhere in Colorado.
March 22, 2014, 09:23:41 AM
CoinCraft Rig status updates
Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
This is the update, a vote can be put up (ie post in this thread your username / number of shares / if you want to proceed with a refund) to attempt to receive a refund from Bitmine.Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
Thanks saw this about a week ago... was hoping there was a more recent update...
March 22, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
Still waiting on my R17 refund. Three PMs to bobsag and at least two forum posts on the relevant thread. Have sent DZ and bobsag one last PM before I'm calling this coop a scam.
March 21, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
CoinCraft Rig status updates
Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
This is the update, a vote can be put up (ie post in this thread your username / number of shares / if you want to proceed with a refund) to attempt to receive a refund from Bitmine. Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
March 21, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Can we get an update on the order status... was expecting to be hashing a while ago...
How's this?
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March 21, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
Can we get an update on the order status... was expecting to be hashing a while ago...
March 17, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
CoinCraft Rig status updates
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
*sigh* two weeks from december is a very long long 2 weeks. never trust pre orders
March 17, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
CoinCraft Rig status updates
Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
Posted on March 16, 2014 by Giorgio Massarotto in Coincraft series, News
Revision 3 of the prototype hashing units for the CoinCraft Rig is now hashing at the expected speed. Production to be started in very short times.
After two past major revision of the rig hashing unit, revision 3 was completely re-engineered in order to address the engineering challenged posed by the very high mining density and the 24V power distribution system. The newest prototype board, to be seen below, is now successfully working at the expected speed. We are speeding up the production as much as possible in order to reduce the delays and shoot a video of a fully populated CoinCraft Rig unit as soon as possible.
Further updates will be posted once available, we are currently expecting the first rigs to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks from now.
March 16, 2014, 08:44:42 PM
Order #706 made on November 18, 2013. Order status: completed.
5 months. wow.
5 months. wow.
March 16, 2014, 08:52:35 AM
the 'new' website won't even recognize my username or any emails so I guess I've been had.
I had the same issue, and sent them a note...
The reply was that your login will work on the old site (click on the archive site on the new site). Your orders are still displayed on the archived site.
You have to create a new account on the new site (and it will only show new orders).
As far as scam... things have not worked out as far as delivery, but it has not been the Group Buy, they have refunded 10's of thousands of dollars (maybe not as well as, target or Walmart but they don't have the man power of target or Walmart)... All in all I would have to say definitely NOT a scam... A little more communication would be nice, and this the one thing that I think they could fix to take it to the next level... People forget that communication helps to calm the nerves of the masses (and I am one of the masses). Maybe a blog would be nice... post once a day, even it is just, "hey we are still here."
danleuthner, refund recipient (about half of my shares), and I am still a member of GB 17 and 18 (~$ 2K)...
March 15, 2014, 02:49:42 PM
the 'new' website won't even recognize my username or any emails so I guess I've been had.
If so, you're not the only one. This is getting more and more scammy every day.
.b
March 15, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
the 'new' website won't even recognize my username or any emails so I guess I've been had.
www.crypto-ops.com March 15, 2014, 12:40:28 PM
the 'new' website won't even recognize my username or any emails so I guess I've been had.
March 06, 2014, 06:55:51 AM
Well if that's the case then we have to wait for it. Hopefully Bitmine will deliver the :rig" 
this March.
this March. March 06, 2014, 03:36:05 AM
they are shipping their 'desk' model, not the 'rig' yet.
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