I wonder where Matthew will run next?
Topic: OregonMines Group Buy $399 Colocated SP20s CC's Accepted (Read 12779 times)
Any new information it has been over a week?
No. Courts move at the speed of US mail, things happen on time scales of months.
@pmorici
Any new information it has been over a week?
What do chances of actually collecting the debt look like?
Excellent. Matt hasn't followed the corporate formalities so I plan to ask the court to hold him personally responsible for Miner Hosting's debt to me. I tracked down his current home address and he is currently renting a luxury house in Oregon for $1,900 /month. If he has that kind of cash to drop on rent it's hard to plead poverty. His parent's also live in a multi million dollar house in Texas so if someone can prove Matt's dad was a part owner in Miner Hosting then there are a lot of assets there for sure. Not to mention that OregonMines probably has hundred of thousands of dollars of mining equipment in their warehouse in Oregon that could be seized by the Sheriff and sold at auction as a last resort.
Any new information it has been over a week?
minersource.net was only their website name. Their actual business registered with the state was called "Miner Hosting, llc". It was originally registered in Missouri and then registered as a foreign corporation when Matt moved to Colorado. He a large number of PSUs from me a couple months before he skipped town and had them shipped to the same address that OregonMines now operates from. Despite their insistence to the contrary OregonMines is most definitely a continuation of minersource.net/MinerHosting, llc. I'm in the process of pursuing Matt and OregonMines for the unpaid debt. I've already won a judgment against Miner Host, llc in Colorado small claims court (Adam's County CO Case #2015S500084). No one from Miner Hosting even showed up to court.
What do chances of actually collecting the debt look like?
Excellent. Matt hasn't followed the corporate formalities so I plan to ask the court to hold him personally responsible for Miner Hosting's debt to me. I tracked down his current home address and he is currently renting a luxury house in Oregon for $1,900 /month. If he has that kind of cash to drop on rent it's hard to plead poverty. His parent's also live in a multi million dollar house in Texas so if someone can prove Matt's dad was a part owner in Miner Hosting then there are a lot of assets there for sure. Not to mention that OregonMines probably has hundred of thousands of dollars of mining equipment in their warehouse in Oregon that could be seized by the Sheriff and sold at auction as a last resort.
Ya don't be listening to the haters. They were right.
Fucking shills. Suck it.
How are Asicspace looking as well there? Sheesh you can really pickem.
Don't listen to these haters Barbara. I appreciate you contributing to the BTC community, and hope you will continue to do so in the future!
-David
Fucking shills. Suck it.
How are Asicspace looking as well there? Sheesh you can really pickem.
I really do not know what to say at this point. When I first purchased a U3 miner in November I came here for help and information. Since this is the only place that the manufactures use. People here have helped me getting my U3's running, almost burnt my home down. I had trouble with the S4 and the C1, I asked questions and people helped me.
Now it seems that since I only have 62 posts it is okay to call me names, and insult me. What I tried here was to take what everyone said was a scam and test them.
I have never recommend them to anyone. I did spend my money and get what I paid for that is all'
I have miners hosted with ASICSPACE, when people here were claiming it was a scam, I have had good luck with them
I have miners hosted with Lee in China I have had good luck with him. I even purchased one from Philipma1957.
I have miners hosted with Oregonmines and I have gotten what I paid for.
I also keep miners at home, I spread my risks and since I am new to mining I am/was trying to contribute the greater good of Bitcoin. The people on here seem more intent on tearing each other down and calling names than they do advancing the Bitcoin message.
If I would have known what I know now I would have purchased a user name, for sale on this board, with a large number of posts, I would not have given my real name or disclosed any personal information about myself.
I am positive no one with a high post count has EVER scammed anyone or acted as a shrill for a company. You do not see paid signature on my posts.
All of that being said, I am not recommending to anyone to buy any miners or hosting from anyone. I would appreciate if you all refrained from calling me names.
Barbara
Now it seems that since I only have 62 posts it is okay to call me names, and insult me. What I tried here was to take what everyone said was a scam and test them.
I have never recommend them to anyone. I did spend my money and get what I paid for that is all'
I have miners hosted with ASICSPACE, when people here were claiming it was a scam, I have had good luck with them
I have miners hosted with Lee in China I have had good luck with him. I even purchased one from Philipma1957.
I have miners hosted with Oregonmines and I have gotten what I paid for.
I also keep miners at home, I spread my risks and since I am new to mining I am/was trying to contribute the greater good of Bitcoin. The people on here seem more intent on tearing each other down and calling names than they do advancing the Bitcoin message.
If I would have known what I know now I would have purchased a user name, for sale on this board, with a large number of posts, I would not have given my real name or disclosed any personal information about myself.
I am positive no one with a high post count has EVER scammed anyone or acted as a shrill for a company. You do not see paid signature on my posts.
All of that being said, I am not recommending to anyone to buy any miners or hosting from anyone. I would appreciate if you all refrained from calling me names.
Barbara
Don't listen to these haters Barbara. I appreciate you contributing to the BTC community, and hope you will continue to do so in the future!
-David
minersource.net was only their website name. Their actual business registered with the state was called "Miner Hosting, llc". It was originally registered in Missouri and then registered as a foreign corporation when Matt moved to Colorado. He a large number of PSUs from me a couple months before he skipped town and had them shipped to the same address that OregonMines now operates from. Despite their insistence to the contrary OregonMines is most definitely a continuation of minersource.net/MinerHosting, llc. I'm in the process of pursuing Matt and OregonMines for the unpaid debt. I've already won a judgment against Miner Host, llc in Colorado small claims court (Adam's County CO Case #2015S500084). No one from Miner Hosting even showed up to court.
What do chances of actually collecting the debt look like?
Excellent. Matt hasn't followed the corporate formalities so I plan to ask the court to hold him personally responsible for Miner Hosting's debt to me. I tracked down his current home address and he is currently renting a luxury house in Oregon for $1,900 /month. If he has that kind of cash to drop on rent it's hard to plead poverty. His parent's also live in a multi million dollar house in Texas so if someone can prove Matt's dad was a part owner in Miner Hosting then there are a lot of assets there for sure. Not to mention that OregonMines probably has hundred of thousands of dollars of mining equipment in their warehouse in Oregon that could be seized by the Sheriff and sold at auction as a last resort.
minersource.net was only their website name. Their actual business registered with the state was called "Miner Hosting, llc". It was originally registered in Missouri and then registered as a foreign corporation when Matt moved to Colorado. He a large number of PSUs from me a couple months before he skipped town and had them shipped to the same address that OregonMines now operates from. Despite their insistence to the contrary OregonMines is most definitely a continuation of minersource.net/MinerHosting, llc. I'm in the process of pursuing Matt and OregonMines for the unpaid debt. I've already won a judgment against Miner Host, llc in Colorado small claims court (Adam's County CO Case #2015S500084). No one from Miner Hosting even showed up to court.
What do chances of actually collecting the debt look like?
minersource.net was only their website name. Their actual business registered with the state was called "Miner Hosting, llc". It was originally registered in Missouri and then registered as a foreign corporation when Matt moved to Colorado. He a large number of PSUs from me a couple months before he skipped town and had them shipped to the same address that OregonMines now operates from. Despite their insistence to the contrary OregonMines is most definitely a continuation of minersource.net/MinerHosting, llc. I'm in the process of pursuing Matt and OregonMines for the unpaid debt. I've already won a judgment against Miner Host, llc in Colorado small claims court (Adam's County CO Case #2015S500084). No one from Miner Hosting even showed up to court.
Here is the eviction notice for MinerSource?
Why are they called Miner Hosting LLC?
Does Oregon Mines have any liability with regards to the money owed?
Why does Oregon Mines still have Matthew Carson on payroll?
At this point this scam, of folding up shop, has been a trail of broken promises across the US and it is funny that Matthew and his Dad have not been brought up on charges.
Why are they called Miner Hosting LLC?
Does Oregon Mines have any liability with regards to the money owed?
Why does Oregon Mines still have Matthew Carson on payroll?
At this point this scam, of folding up shop, has been a trail of broken promises across the US and it is funny that Matthew and his Dad have not been brought up on charges.
If you like to support people associated with criminals give OregonMines a try.
Giving this a bump, still have units available and hosting space from shipped units.
A recap of March for downtime / compensation.
Downtime: March 15th 5PM PDT ->March 16th 11AM PDT
Compensation: 24 Hours
Compensation has been automatically credited to all active paid contracts during that downtime time.
A recap of March for downtime / compensation.
Downtime: March 15th 5PM PDT ->March 16th 11AM PDT
Compensation: 24 Hours
Compensation has been automatically credited to all active paid contracts during that downtime time.
I'm glad you appreciate it. Always best to learn from others mistakes 
WoW all the due diligence news in this thread .
This is great heads up investigative reporting good work peeps, good work!
This is great heads up investigative reporting good work peeps, good work!
Hello Forum Readers,
I'm Tom Thurber, the COO of Oregon Mines/DG Rollins and the father of the owner, Terrence Thurber. This post has not been reviewed by anyone and may offend some.
I advocated for disclosure of Matt's position with Oregon Mines when the issue first came to my attention. Matt asked that I defer the disclosure and, against my better judgment, I did so.
Oregon Mines and DG Rollins have absolutely nothing to hide. Terrence was a client of Minersource and later, after starting a data center in Oregon, Matt Carson provided third party miners for hosting in the center. Prior to employing Matt, Oregon Mines/DG Rollins was simply a client of Minersource.
Why did we hire Matt? Matt's father agreed to acquire a minority interest in our business, infusing funds that will be used to double the data center's capacity. As part of the deal, we agreed to hire Matt as Oregon Mines' VP of Sales. Since Matt has delivered hosting clients to DG Rollins, it seemed like a smart move.
It appears that a few people have serious unresolved issues with Matt. This has no bearing on DG Rollins' operations. My understanding is that Minersource is no longer in business. I further understand that Matt relied on an unreliable manufacturer and passed along promises of that manufacturer that were not fulfilled. In my opinion, this is a result of Matt's inexperience in the business world. Don't make promises on behalf of others you do not control.
Oregon Mines and DG Rollins are split into two divisions, hosting and sales. While with DG Rollins, Matt will be governed by our "customer first" approach that we actively use and promote in our existing hosting business.
Feel free to contact me by email ([email protected]) or Skype (DynoNY). Oregon Mines/DG Rollins did not acquire any part of the operations of Minersource and cannot assume responsibility for issues arising between Minersource and its clients.
However, I am fully able to address all issues relating to Oregon Mines/DG Rollins. We are serious about under-promising and over-delivering and invite you to challenge us by hosting at our center. It is located at 3600 Crates Way, The Dalles, OR 97058. We would welcome a visit if you are in the area.
Regards,
Tom Thurber
Oregon mine just contacted me stating they have my machines. They gave me an offer to either host with them or take my machines. I believe that they are a good company and trying to work with the customer. I'm Tom Thurber, the COO of Oregon Mines/DG Rollins and the father of the owner, Terrence Thurber. This post has not been reviewed by anyone and may offend some.
I advocated for disclosure of Matt's position with Oregon Mines when the issue first came to my attention. Matt asked that I defer the disclosure and, against my better judgment, I did so.
Oregon Mines and DG Rollins have absolutely nothing to hide. Terrence was a client of Minersource and later, after starting a data center in Oregon, Matt Carson provided third party miners for hosting in the center. Prior to employing Matt, Oregon Mines/DG Rollins was simply a client of Minersource.
Why did we hire Matt? Matt's father agreed to acquire a minority interest in our business, infusing funds that will be used to double the data center's capacity. As part of the deal, we agreed to hire Matt as Oregon Mines' VP of Sales. Since Matt has delivered hosting clients to DG Rollins, it seemed like a smart move.
It appears that a few people have serious unresolved issues with Matt. This has no bearing on DG Rollins' operations. My understanding is that Minersource is no longer in business. I further understand that Matt relied on an unreliable manufacturer and passed along promises of that manufacturer that were not fulfilled. In my opinion, this is a result of Matt's inexperience in the business world. Don't make promises on behalf of others you do not control.
Oregon Mines and DG Rollins are split into two divisions, hosting and sales. While with DG Rollins, Matt will be governed by our "customer first" approach that we actively use and promote in our existing hosting business.
Feel free to contact me by email ([email protected]) or Skype (DynoNY). Oregon Mines/DG Rollins did not acquire any part of the operations of Minersource and cannot assume responsibility for issues arising between Minersource and its clients.
However, I am fully able to address all issues relating to Oregon Mines/DG Rollins. We are serious about under-promising and over-delivering and invite you to challenge us by hosting at our center. It is located at 3600 Crates Way, The Dalles, OR 97058. We would welcome a visit if you are in the area.
Regards,
Tom Thurber
I purchased an SP20 from OregonMines over the weekend. I have to say that everything has gone smoothly so far, except for the outage that Oregonmines announced in this thread. Even that one hiccup was handled professionally, as they quickly got back to me once I noticed that it was down, gave me an estimate as to when it would be back up, and got it back up within that estimate. They also agreed to credit me for a full day, even though I lost less than a full day.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
Thanks for taking the risk
What's the underclocked performance?
It ranges from 1.38 Ths to 1.42 Ths at the pool, just about what I expected.
Just an update two weeks later, I have not had any downtime or any issues with OM's service.
I guess if by purchasing a single miner and service I'm supporting them, then sure. But I have no reason to suspect that this company is associated with theft and fraud. Apparently they hired at least one person that some people suspect is associated with theft and fraud, something I found out after I made my purchase. However, I did my research, learned the real names of the people behind the company before they disclosed them here (it's real easy - they were never trying to hide it), and made a choice to risk an entire $400 (I know, I'm greedy as hell, if I'm lucky I'll walk away with a couple hundred bucks in profit, or I'll lose some money). While everyone plays guilt-by-association, I'm just providing the only facts that I know. Nobody has to listen to a word I say, and I'm sorry that you hope I get burned.
wpgdeez: that is a shit attitude to have, using that logic you should get what you deserve also if you found out Minersource was conducting fraudulent activities after you made the purchase. Sounds a bit idiotic doesn't it?
I purchased an SP20 from OregonMines over the weekend. I have to say that everything has gone smoothly so far, except for the outage that Oregonmines announced in this thread. Even that one hiccup was handled professionally, as they quickly got back to me once I noticed that it was down, gave me an estimate as to when it would be back up, and got it back up within that estimate. They also agreed to credit me for a full day, even though I lost less than a full day.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
Thanks for taking the risk
What's the underclocked performance?
It ranges from 1.38 Ths to 1.42 Ths at the pool, just about what I expected.
Just an update two weeks later, I have not had any downtime or any issues with OM's service.
I guess if by purchasing a single miner and service I'm supporting them, then sure. But I have no reason to suspect that this company is associated with theft and fraud. Apparently they hired at least one person that some people suspect is associated with theft and fraud, something I found out after I made my purchase. However, I did my research, learned the real names of the people behind the company before they disclosed them here (it's real easy - they were never trying to hide it), and made a choice to risk an entire $400 (I know, I'm greedy as hell, if I'm lucky I'll walk away with a couple hundred bucks in profit, or I'll lose some money). While everyone plays guilt-by-association, I'm just providing the only facts that I know. Nobody has to listen to a word I say, and I'm sorry that you hope I get burned.
Padrino,
Thanks for your understanding of our position. We may not be able to convince the posters in this forum with words but hope to do so by diligently fulfilling our obligations as a hosting company including going above and beyond to satisfy our customers.
Regards, Tom
Thanks for your understanding of our position. We may not be able to convince the posters in this forum with words but hope to do so by diligently fulfilling our obligations as a hosting company including going above and beyond to satisfy our customers.
Regards, Tom
Tom,
I understand your position, and I made the point I don't envy it, however that does not mean I agree with how you are handling things.. Integrity and trust matters a lot in this business because of companies like Minersource. Blame suppliers all you like but at the end of the day if I fail my customers I am liable for those failures and I need to make my customers whole, hopefully I also have some solid agreements with my suppliers but that is my problem and not my customers.
You are exposing yourself to damages if equity in the company is being held by the old Minersource crew, I hope you had solid papers drawn up for the investment deal providing protection. Obviously your lawyer's due diligence already surfaced these issues before you signed things and you did so with knowledge of the challenges and potential lawsuits your interests will face.
I was at the Texas Conference this past weekend... the same persons behind minerource were at the Oregonmines booth/table.
Padrino,
Thanks for your understanding of our position. We may not be able to convince the posters in this forum with words but hope to do so by diligently fulfilling our obligations as a hosting company including going above and beyond to satisfy our customers.
Regards, Tom
Thanks for your understanding of our position. We may not be able to convince the posters in this forum with words but hope to do so by diligently fulfilling our obligations as a hosting company including going above and beyond to satisfy our customers.
Regards, Tom
My advice to you mate.... cut and dump the prick ASAP.
Bicknellski is bang on with all his points and Carson is a liar, a thief and a conman. Anything he's brought to your company money or hardware wise would be off of the backs of others when he cut and run taking with him a boatload of cash and a fair bit of undelivered hardware to boot. I know I wouldn't want that trash in my company.
It's like the age old saying; lie with dogs and you get fleas
I have spend no less than 100 hours documenting the lies that Matt Carson has told to this community.
Hi guys.. Have you seen that on the BS, sorry BA website ?
As far I remember, when I ordered the X-1, they announced around 0.5W/Gh, which was great, then , they moved to a 0.65W/Gh, and now :
Preliminary specifications:
Node process: 28nm High Performance Process
Package: High Performance Flip Chip BGA
Clock: 1.01 Ghz (Slow/Slow corner)
Voltage: 0.85V
Cores: 99 fully unrolled cores
Efficiency (including leakage): 0.75 W/Ghash/second
This means, the UPS I have bought, the electrical installation changes I have done are NOT corresponding ANYMORE to their new specifications !!! Also, they seem to have AGAIN delays, and worse, instead of concentrating their power to be "Just-In-Time", they have started a new project with LTC chips !
First time I invest on BSPO (Bullshit Pre-Orders), from firms that are unable to manage what they offered ! Not sure if I am going to ask for a refund from the sellers...
Still expecting news from Matt and the OFODB to be soon available (Old Fucking Orders Database)... And don't tell me that 6 months + 25% of hashing power will cover the losses I have had (UPS going to be overloaded, even I took one UPS with 25% more power as required !) ...
Angry Michel.
As far I remember, when I ordered the X-1, they announced around 0.5W/Gh, which was great, then , they moved to a 0.65W/Gh, and now :
Preliminary specifications:
Node process: 28nm High Performance Process
Package: High Performance Flip Chip BGA
Clock: 1.01 Ghz (Slow/Slow corner)
Voltage: 0.85V
Cores: 99 fully unrolled cores
Efficiency (including leakage): 0.75 W/Ghash/second
This means, the UPS I have bought, the electrical installation changes I have done are NOT corresponding ANYMORE to their new specifications !!! Also, they seem to have AGAIN delays, and worse, instead of concentrating their power to be "Just-In-Time", they have started a new project with LTC chips !
First time I invest on BSPO (Bullshit Pre-Orders), from firms that are unable to manage what they offered ! Not sure if I am going to ask for a refund from the sellers...
Still expecting news from Matt and the OFODB to be soon available (Old Fucking Orders Database)... And don't tell me that 6 months + 25% of hashing power will cover the losses I have had (UPS going to be overloaded, even I took one UPS with 25% more power as required !) ...
Angry Michel.
I would request a refund...
Good luck if requesting from Black Arrow, for Matt Carson handles the BA's ticket system. SERIOUSLY!!!
Just to clarify, Matt Carson does not handle our support ticket system.
We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there .
ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
.ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
Another fucking Romanian lie, just like when Matt Carson lied about not having two different warehouses in Missouri.
Well, I cancelled and got a full refund (minus 20 dollars) from Minersource, was pretty quick and painless.
Lucky for you..........
I've been dealing with Matt @ Minersource for 2.5 weeks...
Now that my order has been canceled. Still no refund yet.
At one point, I got an email that wire is on my way (which I never received).
It was $49 off what I paid for my order.
This is exactly what I'm concerned about, cancelling but ending up with both no order spot and no money back.
bobsag3 / Matt
Please refund my money!
I just sent you another email!
Still no words/replies from Matt yet on the status of my refund.
I'm going to PM him on this forum just to make sure...........
He'll just reply with "No way, Jose!" then quote BA's stance on refunds. Remember, Matty Boy is just a vetted reseller. Correction! The first ever double-vetted Bitcoiner that was BA's first vetted reseller.
Any questions?
Q1: Yes, I have one. Who vetted him?
A1: Only John K., who's no longer around, and some new dude from Hawaii, the same state that John K. is from.
Q2: And this makes Matt viable?
A1: That and this:
Hookah. Check! Skype contacts. Check! Matt's first and second warehouse in Missouri being the same warehouse. Check!
Let's revisit Black Arrow's first trustworthy reseller, shall we?
From the desk of Bobsag3, a.k.a. Matt Carson, Black Arrow's first and #1 reseller for their miners.
I never ended up moving to another warehouse in Rolla, just the one. We went right from small warehouse in rolla > denver warehouse in one move, early Jan.
We paid for every month, and if your in contact with who you should be to verify that kind of info, they will verify it. So yes, your blowing smoke up peoples asses.
And with that im done on the subject. I think people have seen im more than up front compared to most here- but lets stay on topic about BA, or about actual minersource orders.
Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations. Originally posted in Black Arrow's self-moderated thread, but quickly deleted for being...wait for it..off-topic (and that I was trolling, so they claim). Black Arrow has proof that Matt Carson can NOT be trusted, but continue to use him as their official reseller in the US. If I were to use Tom Williams, of mybitcoin.com, as my official reseller for some product, stating that people change, would I be able to sell many product, Alex Sovu, of cardreaderfactory.com? Me, the asshole, no think so, yet...
BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.
Building was purchased today!
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man
All the wiring and infrastructure equipment arrives tomorrow-Wednesday. Over 400lb. Poor UPS man
Thanks- Ill be moving to a custom made facility here in under 3 weeks.
BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.
Major Update!
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
Major Update!
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
We will be moving to a much large, much better facility here by the end of the month. There may be a short down time (its only a 90mi drive) while being setup at the new facility, but we will not be turning anything off right up to the last minute.
Building acquired
I cant answer on the software but I can on the shipping. Looks like the boards should be done here within 48 hours, and then will be dispatched after a small amount of testing to AUS, and me in the US. At least from me, all boards will then be tested again (Not sure how long... suggestions?) and then immediatly shipped out same day via UPS Next Day/2nd Day air [depending on location]. As soon as we know the boards are done, we can give concrete delivery.
I'd sample test say 1/10th of the boards for a few hours on testnet. That'd be my recommendation
Yeah I can do that. *might* be able to live stream, or atleast upload a ton of pictures.
I will be shipping from MO. Middle of the country, and if your anywhere close to me Im ok with local pickup
. And I just want to say guys - Barn has been working very hard behind the screens to bring this all together... this stuff is immensely complex.
Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:
This is why I went from garage > warehouse > bigger warehouse. Heat is nuts.
Shenzhen, China 11/26/2013 8:05 P.M. Departure Scan
Yea, but do the thumbs have any tracking info? When you get the board delivery after a quick run though where are they coming from for you. I seem to expect California.
I will be shipping out from Central MO.
Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.
I got ya covered 
But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v
November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3723600
No problem. Im having a 400A 240V pannel installed just for the 2kw+ miners that seem to be coming out.
On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:
This makes no sense financially and if it's going to be hosted in a data center it should be using specialized GPU mining racks that can run more GPUs per motherboard/CPU. You really need open racks and to use PCI-E riser ribbons if you want to build a GPU mining rig, using a desktop computer case makes no sense especially because heat is a huge issue with scrypt mining. Also to be honest, scrypt mining is VERY finicky compared to SHA256 mining, you're talking about constant lockups and crashes if heat isn't perfectly controlled. The amount of time that's going to go into keeping everything running is going to be much higher than with bitcoins and given how the Bitfury towers already caused a ton of problems I'm not sure the coop has enough manpower to keep racks of scrypt miners up and running.
The new facility comes with me also having hired 6 more people to help out. I am currently training them right now.
On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.
I am working with them right now for me to help with their tickets, so we can get the response time much faster. I have hired additional staff that start work here in a few weeks, and I know they are working hard to improve their systems.
I cant speak on the refunds unfortunately, I am still discussing the options with them.
Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?
We will offer local pickups- but we are moving to a massive new facility in CO, so pickups will have to be from there .
ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
.ALSO: I now have access to the BA ticket system, so if you need a response feel free to PM and I can at least check on the status for you.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minersourcenet-miner-hosting-llc-cheap-and-secure-hosting-and-sales-288012
We are all moved into the new place, lots of updates and pictures to come!
BUILDING #3:
Somewhere in Colorado.
OregonMines was presented with the true facts pertaining to Matt Carson, yet its principles' opt to stand behind him, ergo OregonMines IS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I purchased an SP20 from OregonMines over the weekend. I have to say that everything has gone smoothly so far, except for the outage that Oregonmines announced in this thread. Even that one hiccup was handled professionally, as they quickly got back to me once I noticed that it was down, gave me an estimate as to when it would be back up, and got it back up within that estimate. They also agreed to credit me for a full day, even though I lost less than a full day.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.
The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.
Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.
Thanks for taking the risk
What's the underclocked performance?
It ranges from 1.38 Ths to 1.42 Ths at the pool, just about what I expected.
Just an update two weeks later, I have not had any downtime or any issues with OM's service.
Customers of Minersource will need to send their legal papers to Mathew Carson at Oregon Mines I guess. They should also be aware that Minersource was owned by Mathew's Dad who is also an Owner of Oregon Mines. So there would be good reason to make sure that nothing owned by creditors is also now somehow owned by Oregon Mines. Considering Oregon Mines is not being forthright about that aspect it would be best for creditors to work together to force Oregon Mines to give up information or get legal representation and police or federal agencies like the FTC / FBI involved in this given what has transpired as that will be the only way to get some traction on this.
I will leave this thread let others who were injured by Minersource, Mathew and Mathew's Father and possibly by Tom and Terrence Thurber. There is nothing more to do here than hope that those who were ripped off by Mathew and his Father and possibly Tom and Terrence Thurber are made whole again.
Clearly Oregon Mines should not be trusted. Dealing with Oregon Mines is something that you would do at great risk irregardless of what platitudes Tom gives you the injuries should be resolved if he wants ANYONE to trust his sons business again.
There are several other places to buy / rent hosted miners that have EXCELLENT reputations. Hashnest and PCFLI's are the two best examples at this point. Although realistically no-cloud mining or hosted situation will give you a positive ROI. You are best to simply buy BTC from reputable places and hold if you are looking to invest.
MC -
I fully understand that people who lose money are angry and sometimes seek revenge. Totally agree with respect to not being transparent and I should have followed my own judgement and come on the forum to explain Matt Carson's association when I became aware of the issue. For that, I apologize. While Oregon Mines is unable to solve previous issues of participants in this forum, we will prove over time our ability to provide superior hosting services at competitive prices.
Regards,
Tom
I fully understand that people who lose money are angry and sometimes seek revenge. Totally agree with respect to not being transparent and I should have followed my own judgement and come on the forum to explain Matt Carson's association when I became aware of the issue. For that, I apologize. While Oregon Mines is unable to solve previous issues of participants in this forum, we will prove over time our ability to provide superior hosting services at competitive prices.
Regards,
Tom
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