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Apparently, Spoondolies are the most power dense and stable miners out there. However, I'm not sure if they'll develop new more energy efficient products so I'll probably wait to see that before I do any hosting.
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Assuming this is legit, it seems like a possible alternative to Lee's S5 hosting deal in China, particularly for US based miners. The $399 price for an SP20 seems quite reasonable, and a termination/shipping fee of $50 is a little high, but probably no worse than what it would cost to finish up at Lee' facility. Lee has a significantly better daily rate though.

Could Oregon Mines set up one or two SP20's with the "downclock rate" (i.e. 180W on the 4 loops), and report what the hash rate is after several hours?
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I'm confused, so maybe you can help me understand.

You stated:

This seems interesting and probably posted in the wrong place.  But in the interest of it maybe being beneficial to both of us, I'll make this offer to you and post it to keep things on the up and up.

I currently pay $1.67 per day for my SP20s.  So I'd do $2.00 per day for each on a 90 day agreement for 5 units.  During which time I will review the operations and dealings with your company and support.  I would do the $399 option for the 5 units with OgNasty providing escrow during the 90 day period.  At the end of the 90 day period if the terms have been met, I'll submit the additional $250 and have the units shipped to me.  Upon receipt of the units, OgNasty would release the escrow.
Unfortunately we will not be able to lower our colocation costs at this time, currently you will have the PSU's covered the entirety of the contract, onsite personnel if needed. Our price is under $90 per unit per month which is one of the best prices that can be found for such a short contract, you can do only a 15 day contract.

The only way you would be able to get 90 day escrow would be to wait for credit card processing, I apologize however escrow will need to be released within 24-48 hours of delivery of goods, you will receive the unit serial numbers and the units will be mining within 24 hours of payment.

Yet, just a few posts later you state:

Interested in some/all of the units but would just buy and host in a more economical location.. If interested in selling them all please PM with a price and total quantity of all the units..

Please send a PM to start the conversation. Depending on length of time and number of units the colocation cost may be lowered.

So, which is it?  You can or you cannot negotiate on co-lo costs?

Sent a PM to answer and I will edit the OP to make it a bit more clear.


I dont understand this why dont you just mine yourself since you already paid for the hardware ?

The miners in question, they're mine too. I bought those Miners late last year to test out the design on a new Tunnel, vs the same areas where other machines were hosted.
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I dont understand this why dont you just mine yourself since you already paid for the hardware ?

Risk.

Unprofitable...

Sell / Rent it and make a profit as you probably just broke even on the 150 SP20s you purchase in bulk.
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I dont understand this why dont you just mine yourself since you already paid for the hardware ?

Risk.
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I dont understand this why dont you just mine yourself since you already paid for the hardware ?
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I'm confused, so maybe you can help me understand.

You stated:

This seems interesting and probably posted in the wrong place.  But in the interest of it maybe being beneficial to both of us, I'll make this offer to you and post it to keep things on the up and up.

I currently pay $1.67 per day for my SP20s.  So I'd do $2.00 per day for each on a 90 day agreement for 5 units.  During which time I will review the operations and dealings with your company and support.  I would do the $399 option for the 5 units with OgNasty providing escrow during the 90 day period.  At the end of the 90 day period if the terms have been met, I'll submit the additional $250 and have the units shipped to me.  Upon receipt of the units, OgNasty would release the escrow.
Unfortunately we will not be able to lower our colocation costs at this time, currently you will have the PSU's covered the entirety of the contract, onsite personnel if needed. Our price is under $90 per unit per month which is one of the best prices that can be found for such a short contract, you can do only a 15 day contract.

The only way you would be able to get 90 day escrow would be to wait for credit card processing, I apologize however escrow will need to be released within 24-48 hours of delivery of goods, you will receive the unit serial numbers and the units will be mining within 24 hours of payment.

Yet, just a few posts later you state:

Interested in some/all of the units but would just buy and host in a more economical location.. If interested in selling them all please PM with a price and total quantity of all the units..

Please send a PM to start the conversation. Depending on length of time and number of units the colocation cost may be lowered.

So, which is it?  You can or you cannot negotiate on co-lo costs?
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Thanks for the info Oregon Mines.

Is DG Rollins LLC or you 'OregonMines.com' related to Matt Carson aka bobsag3 or Minersource.net in anyway? And if so are you still in partnership with Matt as you were before?

Is Matt Carson working for Oregon Mines or part of the DG Rollins LLC?

You seem to have avoided that question.

The only person pushing this thread down a rabbit hole is Loshia. Typically off topic and has nothing to do the with the thread.

Simple questions being asked and answered. The only person that is being impolite is Loshia here, which doesn't surprise anyone given his defense of Martin and Technobit and their scams right up to present times. His personal and sustained attacks on me is well documented. Even though he was warned not to do this by forum moderators he continues to harass me in countless threads.

It is fair to ask what Matt Carson's involvement in this is, given the mess he has left behind with a number of deals here in these forums. Any potential customers of DG Rollins LLC should rightly know if he is involved. If he is why isn't Matt coming clean and resolving the countless problems he has with former Minersource customers? Does DG Rollins LLC have contact with Matt Carson? If they do can they not persuade Matt Carson to resolve issues he has with his customers?

Given those trips to Black Arrow and Spondoolies involved DG Rollins LLC and Matt Carson together there is certainly a reason to question the current standing and relationship of DG Rollins LLC and Matt Carson. The fact the "Loshia" is involved should also give any customer pause on anything related to a company, he seems only to post in an attempt to defame others and away from the specific question being asked. Smoke screens seem to be unnecessary here given that the principals are willing and able to respond to polite questions about who is involved in their business without resorting to name calling like Martin and Loshia did when questioned about their less than reputable business practices.

Clearly there is a "relationship" with Minersource and that might give at least former customers worry if not the whole community. That is why I asked the question so that consumers at least know a relationship did / does exist with these companies. The consumers who might be interested in what is being offered can now measure that information and weigh the risks involved. Without asking that question it was clearly never going to be brought up voluntarily by Oregon Mines.


Sample complaints from Loshia favorite company Technobit:

one more day with still no reply  Huh Huh Huh
This is getting nowhere, the guy isn't even reacting anymore here. Lying about shipping week after week, looks as if this is going like minersource. Pooofff, and they are gone!!
not reacting...not replying to contact...email...nothing...looks like this time they are stealing our money Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
another time?
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Figured I'd go ahead and step into the thread, and say Hello.

@Bicknellski and for those wondering , I am the owner of the DataCenter which is operating as "OregonMines", the WY company listed and the OR operating company that maintains, operates, and manages DataCenter itself.

The miners in question, they're mine too. I bought those Miners late last year to test out the design on a new Tunnel, vs the same areas where other machines were hosted. There are 150 SP20s all alone in that room, and they all were purchased directly by my mining company, that is an active client of the DataCenter operation. ( I'll be sure to get Spond in here to verify that purchase, and that it went to the very same DC listed, much like several other clients of theirs with similar Machine counts )

As to the assertion that I am or ever was "partners" with MinerSource, or any shareholder of MS, that's false. I have never owned any % or had any control of MS, or their operations. I've used MS on several purchases and I'll list off a few ( Old -> New).

  • MS acting as a reseller of BitMain S1s ( 500+ when it was all said and done, some direct, some resold ), with him hosting a % of those machines at his DC while I expanded the OR facility, and eventually re-selling the USED machines that I did not sell directly to other investors I knew.
  • MS hosting half of the 400+ BitFury boards that I had built from Reels of Chips and purchasing from other Miners
  • DI Mining ( The Miners themselves ) allowing MS to include our projected Spend on ANY potential , Machines Shipping Today Deals, along with their other clients, as a potential POOL or CO-OP buy to leverage more purchasing power
  • OregonMines, as DataCenter for clients, accepting Hosting Referrals from MS, and paying a referral fee for that service. All clients contract directly with us for services rendered, Hosting

That is the extent of our relationship, OregonMines.com is first and foremost a DataCenter. The fact that I want to sell some of my own Miners, and try to do so in a manner that keeps them as clients potentially should be a NON-ISSUE for anyone. These are not someone elses machines, they didn't come from anywhere other than Israel to my DC.

If at any time I've tried to give other providers advice, or guidance, this is all simply a means to an end. If I can get more from my providers, and therefore command higher returns, I'll do so. Plenty of people have grouped together around potential ideas that don't come to bare.

Despite buying half of my BF Boards from BlackArrow manufacturing, I did so long before Prospero, and despite several opportunities presented to buy BULK, I was lucky enough to not get burnt, because I act on some principles like, Don't buy what you can't see in front of you and have today. I've had employees fly to buy Reels of Chips, I've been to China, Israel. ( You don't buy many properties without seeing them, you don't invest offshore without a local presence, etc )

Since we are Miners first, we built the DC around that. A very nice chunk of change was invested already, for just Phase 1 + 1.1 of this DC. We're currently adding an additional 2000 KVA transformer ( vault / permit / conduits done ) , and will be stringing out more capacity along with more upgrades, as well as potentially releasing some of the same tools we use to manage My Boxes en masse to clients. Several of our clients have done On Site visits, others remote walk throughs, etc. ( Normally the response is "Impressive, clean", but you have to walk the whole facility for that ). I have more expansion space available, I have the PUD onboard for whatever is needed , the Contractors on hand etc.

@Loshia - I'm aware that this will most likely continue to devolve into more Q&A , but I have nothing to hide. If customers don't want the boxes like this, I'd just sell them externally, like every other iteration or large purchase I've made in the past. Though you're right, it would be nice to have a chance to reply before people go down the rabbit hole.  

We've mined hard, and steady for a while, had a few down cycles where we moved out of machines, we're not a Chinese Mega Farm, but we're here to host.

Included some Pics of the Machines for sale. ( Our sharpie skills at work )




This should help clear things up, expect further communication on these matters from OregonMines.


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Enjoy the party Gents

You were warned in advance.

That are BickLEDsky conclusions about you without A SINGLE FACT IN HAND


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quoted in his post
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MinerSource is gone bud, taken everyone's money and run
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And his original post
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His partner ain't gone. I see nearly 144 SP20's mining away.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10676569
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The original post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10677533

And of course in BickLEDsky style i expect that he will remove or edit it very soon like always.

As i see things you are directly called partner of the one of the biggest scams recently. A scammer partner for me is a scammer himself.

I am relay sorry for you that you have played his game in the begging....

And this is just a BickLEDsky warmup...
 
Have a nice day
PS: feel free to remove that post also. I am not gonna edit it.
I think it is on topic 100%

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For BickLEDsky
Before posting bulshit about people in general, the good manners require to wait for an answer right?
BickLEDsky, let us imagine that you are correct and OregonMines were MinerSource partner.

Will that mean that Spondo is a scam company also? A? Or that just means that they did honest business, took customer OregonMines -  MinerSource STOLEN money and delivered excellent equipment as agreed.

Just for the record i admire Spondo way of doing business and i am their fan.  BickLEDsky also "pretends" that he is Spondo fan also. But how long will that last?

And finally there are just a couple of companies left who are kicking their ass and tiring to make some business.
But BickLEDsky obligation is to stick his nose everywhere in any time and to spread vast amount of bulshit of course. I am enough someone has to stop this ASAP.

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Thanks for the info Oregon Mines.

Is DG Rollins LLC or you 'OregonMines.com' related to Matt Carson aka bobsag3 or Minersource.net in anyway? And if so are you still in partnership with Matt as you were before?



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Well  here is my problem with your offering.

 the sp20   will do 1100 watts and 1600gh
or it will do 800 watts and 1350gh  

you offer it at 1600 gh and charge over 2.50 usd a day. this comes to

24 x 1.1 = 26.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 2.62 usd  which is what you want.

if you set the same unit to 1350 gh it will use 24 x .8 = 19.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 1.92 usd a day


I am pretty sure at the current price of btc I am better off with my sp20e at the 1350 gh rate and not the 1600 gh rate.

Not going to knock  your offering but I rather run it at the slower speeds as I do not think I earn anything extra at the higher speeds you are stating.

Slower speeds are possible, If you would like an under clocked version the price per unit will remain the same but price for colocation would be adjusted to the power pulled if  a PSU with 90% efficiency is used.

Send a PM with what you would like as an under clock setting and I can give you that price as well as put it up in the OP.

Each blade pulling 288W = 1152 + PSU efficiency so averaged to 1200w, most of the units are averaging above 1600, but we've seen it slightly different depending on which pool they are on.



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Well  here is my problem with your offering.

 the sp20   will do 1100 watts and 1600gh
or it will do 800 watts and 1350gh 

you offer it at 1600 gh and charge over 2.50 usd a day. this comes to

24 x 1.1 = 26.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 2.62 usd  which is what you want.

if you set the same unit to 1350 gh it will use 24 x .8 = 19.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 1.92 usd a day


I am pretty sure at the current price of btc I am better off with my sp20e at the 1350 gh rate and not the 1600 gh rate.

Not going to knock  your offering but I rather run it at the slower speeds as I do not think I earn anything extra at the higher speeds you are stating.

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Interested in some/all of the units but would just buy and host in a more economical location.. If interested in selling them all please PM with a price and total quantity of all the units..

Please send a PM to start the conversation. Depending on length of time and number of units the colocation cost may be lowered.
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Interested in some/all of the units but would just buy and host in a more economical location.. If interested in selling them all please PM with a price and total quantity of all the units..
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This seems interesting and probably posted in the wrong place.  But in the interest of it maybe being beneficial to both of us, I'll make this offer to you and post it to keep things on the up and up.

I currently pay $1.67 per day for my SP20s.  So I'd do $2.00 per day for each on a 90 day agreement for 5 units.  During which time I will review the operations and dealings with your company and support.  I would do the $399 option for the 5 units with OgNasty providing escrow during the 90 day period.  At the end of the 90 day period if the terms have been met, I'll submit the additional $250 and have the units shipped to me.  Upon receipt of the units, OgNasty would release the escrow.
Unfortunately we will not be able to lower our colocation costs at this time, currently you will have the PSU's covered the entirety of the contract, onsite personnel if needed. Our price is under $90 per unit per month which is one of the best prices that can be found for such a short contract, you can do only a 15 day contract.

The only way you would be able to get 90 day escrow would be to wait for credit card processing, I apologize however escrow will need to be released within 24-48 hours of delivery of goods, you will receive the unit serial numbers and the units will be mining within 24 hours of payment.

Who are you?

Business license?

Experience?


DG Rollins Mining LLC is a Wyoming based LLC which operates OregonMines.com, and is in the business of Bitcoin miner colocation and hosting services.

Some of our experience for the past 3 months:


@Loshia:
The questions he brought up in the post are on topic. Please edit your post to be on topic or remove it.
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Who are you?

Business license?

Experience?

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This seems interesting and probably posted in the wrong place.  But in the interest of it maybe being beneficial to both of us, I'll make this offer to you and post it to keep things on the up and up.

I currently pay $1.67 per day for my SP20s.  So I'd do $2.00 per day for each on a 90 day agreement for 5 units.  During which time I will review the operations and dealings with your company and support.  I would do the $399 option for the 5 units with OgNasty providing escrow during the 90 day period.  At the end of the 90 day period if the terms have been met, I'll submit the additional $250 and have the units shipped to me.  Upon receipt of the units, OgNasty would release the escrow.
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Promotion: No additional fee's for credit card processing.

Intro:
OregonMines currently has over 100 Spondoolies-Tech SP20’s located in our Oregon location. We are offering 100 of them (SP20 ~1.6TH/s +-5% ) at $399/450 each with collocation.


Unit Pricing:
There must be interest in at least 25 units for this group buy to begin, The first 5 customers do not have to wait as we are new to the community and would like reviews.

$450 Each Shipping/insurance included – Shipping prepaid, after your colocation period is complete the unit(s) will be shipped to you (USA Destinations), or you may choose to renew.

$399 Each – After your colocation period is complete you can transfer the unit(s) to another person and they can continue colocation, renew your colocation or at any time you may stop your collocation pay a $50/unit fee and have the unit shipped anywhere in the USA without additional charges.

Bulk purchases can receive a discount


Colocation Details:
We require a SLA for all customers at our facility. Our facility draws power from the same substation as Google.

At all times DG Rollins LLC carries full business liability insurance.

Units will be mining within 24 hours of payment clearing.

Minimum 15 Days, anytime within the first 15 days you have the choice to keep the originally assigned unit or have it replaced with another, no questions asked.

$2.90 per Day - 288/288/288/288

Underclock settings / Pricing Available
$1.92 per Day - 180/180/180/180

Bulk and some length contracts can receive a discount.

At the end of your term you may choose to purchase additional time, or pay any applicable fees to remove the units.

Payment Details:
Bitcoin, wire transfer and credit card processor. If interested in credit card please send your information and you will be invoiced when it is available.
All prices above include a 5% Bitcoin/Cash/Wire payment discount; wire transfers have a $15 domestic / $16 international receiving fee.

Escrow Accepted (All fees paid by purchaser).

How to Order:
Post here with your interest AND send me a PM with your name, email, phone (if paying with credit card), method of payment, # of units wanted, # of days for colocation, pool/worker information and shipping address if prepaying the shipping.  After payment you will receive the purchased unit(s) serial number(s).







Please do not post anything Off Topic, please only post legitimate questions, comments and suggestions.
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