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Topic: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers - page 6. (Read 29232 times)

legendary
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I did keep the other campaigns column, I only took it down because it made the table wider and messier. Will do something about that. Thanks for your suggestion,guys.
legendary
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Meh.
- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?

Perhaps the type of campaigns they're willing to deal with? Not sure about others but personally I have zero plans to manage any Bounties.

Ditto.
legendary
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- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?

Perhaps the type of campaigns they're willing to deal with? Not sure about others but personally I have zero plans to manage any Bounties.
legendary
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Good start, but I think there have few guys with just one or two campaign. I do not comment on their work but managing one campaign can not qualify someone as a manager. especially today when it opens 10+ campaigns daily.
Also, there are an only "green" managers, somebody would think there was no problem with bad campaign management even if there has never been more spam.
Experience is not the only thing that counts. Anyone can be a manager by that. There are other factors that may or may not  qualify a manager to be on this list.
Suggestion: If community agrees, can we change the subject "Overview" to "List" --> List of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (Google will love it too)
The reason I chose not to just call it a list is because then I would have to add all the campaign managers, I chose overview because this thread tells a lot about the managers and what they have done till now. Wink
A few things:

- Does the community want me to run a poll for managers? If  yes,any specific person who is not currently on the list but has the potential so that I could link it down on a poll?

- For those managers who don't have an ANN thread, please do create one. The competition is tough out there and your ANN thread might get help you a lot.

- Any suggestions for me to add in the table? Related to managers or anything in general?
sr. member
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Good start, but I think there have few guys with just one or two campaign. I do not comment on their work but managing one campaign can not qualify someone as a manager. especially today when it opens 10+ campaigns daily.
Also, there are an only "green" managers, somebody would think there was no problem with bad campaign management even if there has never been more spam.
copper member
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Edit: I forgot to mention, I messaged theymos about the AD space and I am allowed to do it.  Grin
Wow congratulations I guess he's impressed with your hard work.

May be campaign managers can also use this space to highlight their own portfolios to attract advertisers?

Anyway let's hope and pray it serves the purpose.

Suggestion: If community agrees, can we change the subject "Overview" to "List" --> List of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (Google will love it too)

legendary
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Great work pugman! will you include something like a "websites" column? or will it stay in "contact"?
Thank you Woshib! I won't include another column just for websites, because the list becomes more wider and messier, so it'll stay in the "contact" column.
Done. To verify: the address is posted in the campaign thread, last edit December 6, 2017 (Search for "Funds for the first week").
Although unlikely: if the campaign ever continues, I'll edit that post again.
Thanks Loyce V. Verified! Wink


3.831 BTC held in the ChipMixer campaign escrow address from Jan 3 to Jan 6 2018.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
6/4/2018 | This address is under the control of DarkStar_ (u=507936)
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
G3yhe7uEbtQidQXvQ0nRSe0o8hPjAXUoYm96MYUx+WIieKMxJQ4TKvDxB6Yac9r4AXoTO09r4rfgLIh0NqVqY8s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE--

BTC reached 17600$ on Jan 5, according to CoinMarketCap. Equal to ~67000$ USD
Bitcoin's price started with 15,477 and ended with 17,705 on Jan 5 ,as per coinmarketcap.
And message verified!
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.
Its not escrow anymore, and I haven't updated the OP. I'll wait for all managers to sign messages and update it all together. Its just max amount held at a time. Your points are valid and fair. I just thought it would make much sense to keep amount held only for campaigns, other amounts, but I hear you, so if you have held more amount than what you have held for your campaigns and if you can sign a message for that, I'd be sure to link it.
I would trust 10/15 on the list with 5+ bitcoin without batting an eyelash. Maybe the criteria for being on the list should be stipulated around that? I don't know the correct format that should be used but this list was comprised from 1 persons opinion. If it's gonna be used as an official forum list for advertisers, then maybe there should be a poll or something to vote users in? Just tossing out ideas.

Overall I think the list is great, just needs some tweaks.
I legitimately thought of running a poll while the time of writing this thread, there were a few reasons why I chose not to:

- This thread was required urgently(?).

- The list included 21 people, I shortlisted it to 15,because a few weren't managing campaigns anymore and a few weren't responding. And these were the people who I have seen around managing *fairly*. No,I didn't include Sylon,if you are wondering.

- Creating a poll, adding more than 30 managers would make this list a mess. Refer here for example: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-services-2727673
These people are only managing signature campaigns. Bounty managers, like Sylon aren't even included. If any manager has been account farming, then the results of the poll would be much more worse.

- I personally wanted the list to be based on the community's opinion. And I want to hear people's thoughts on this matter. After all,we are all a big fan of decentralization. Cheesy
Edit: I forgot to mention, I messaged theymos about the AD space and I am allowed to do it.  Grin
legendary
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Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.

I agree, this is not really necessary. Most of us on the list have held 1-10 bitcoins for campaigns while the price was 2000-20000$. 1 of the guys is the forum treasurer. A few on the list are very active in collectibles and have done multiple thousands of dollars in trades.

I would trust 10/15 on the list with 5+ bitcoin without batting an eyelash. Maybe the criteria for being on the list should be stipulated around that? I don't know the correct format that should be used but this list was comprised from 1 persons opinion. If it's gonna be used as an official forum list for advertisers, then maybe there should be a poll or something to vote users in? Just tossing out ideas.

Overall I think the list is great, just needs some tweaks.
legendary
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Meh.
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?

Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.
legendary
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Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion,I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message. I am sorry for causing so much trouble but I assure you it is for the best and I am trying to do whatever I possibly can to make yourself look as a better manager to everyone else out there.

3.831 BTC held in the ChipMixer campaign escrow address from Jan 3 to Jan 6 2018.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
6/4/2018 | This address is under the control of DarkStar_ (u=507936)
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
G3yhe7uEbtQidQXvQ0nRSe0o8hPjAXUoYm96MYUx+WIieKMxJQ4TKvDxB6Yac9r4AXoTO09r4rfgLIh0NqVqY8s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE--

BTC reached 17600$ on Jan 5, according to CoinMarketCap. Equal to ~67000$ USD
legendary
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Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion,I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message.
Done. To verify: the address is posted in the campaign thread, last edit December 6, 2017 (Search for "Funds for the first week").
Although unlikely: if the campaign ever continues, I'll edit that post again.
hero member
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Great work pugman! will you include something like a "websites" column? or will it stay in "contact"?
legendary
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legendary
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Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  Undecided
Impossible to accurately say, but each should be able to handle several at once. Anyhow, a lot of the BMs are proxies that forward their work to the cheapest bidder.  Roll Eyes
newbie
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Reserved. Thank you for listing the best bounty manager. I frequently saw some of the names are mentioned in other topics and all say that they are the very good and prfofessional. Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  Undecided
legendary
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I like it, the layout is better when it's less wide.
I've changed one thing in your quote: I've added alt-text:
Code:
[img alt=Email]
[img alt=PM]
[img alt=Telegram]
This way, if the image doesn't load, it shows a text hyperlink.

In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).
If you start showing txids, you'll need a signed message to prove it was owned by the campaign manager too. Many of the campaigns I've managed for Rollin.io were off-chain. I had full access to the funds, but without a chain record.

dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust.
This isn't the place for accusations, please open yet another thread in Reputation.
legendary
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There should probably be a distinction between campaign managers and also escrows. Not all campaign managers are escrows nor should all of them be defacto trusted to be one. Maybe the value should be removed all together especially as people might just start using it to base who is most trustworthy or not.

This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.

This is very silly reasoning. This is a bitcoin forum but bitcoins have a fiat value attached to them and that is incredibly relevant due to the nature of bitcoin. Fiat isn't a naughty word nobody should ever utter here. If somebody has claimed to have been trusted with 100 bitcoins at once 6 years ago or 100 bitcoins over their lifetime then those are both two very different things and values today. It would be incredibly misleading if the only figure they had to go on was a bitcoin one and to claim someone isn't a 'bitcoin enthusiast' because of that is both ridiculous and completely irrelevant. Bitcoin isn't the only crypto that is transacted in here either. Most campaigns pay in alts or crapcoin tokens so there needs to be some unanimity

Saying that paying 100 Bitcoin at any point in time isn't an accurate representation is like saying that stealing 100 in 2016 is not a smaller crime than stealing the same amount in 2017.

Again, completely irrelevant, but stealing 1 million dollars isn't the same as stealing a dollar, is it? Whoops, used fiat again.


If you hold a certain number of bitcoins, you hold a certain number of bitcoins.

Yeah, and when you held them is incredibly important because there's a fiat value attached to those coins which is very relevant. If the value of them was ten cents total at the time then that should be stipulated, and that's why the worth of them at the time is a much more important and accurate representation of the value you can be trusted with.

"You can trust me with 100 bitcoins" - 2010
"You can trust me with 100 bitcoins" - 2018

You're saying those are the same and no distinction should be made? I guess I should abandon all logic and find a new hobby, eh?
legendary
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So you're saying the whole point of trust-system is useless? Receiving positive trust==trust farming? And receiving negative trust==abuse? Damn you're a retard.

I know that when I talk about things that you don't like I would be the retard, let me dumb it down. dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust. since people have several alt accounts, they could also give their own accounts positive trust or better yet if they have a DT1 account, they could add their own alt accounts on DT2. leaving positive trust with no reference is equal to scamming. let me explain why. imagine a DT1-2 member has left positive trust on people with no reference, so far everything is OK, we could say that we should trust that DT1-2 member, then a DT2 member would tag somebody red just because that DT2 member is a bully and the same DT1-2 member whom we were trusting before wouldn't give a fuck about the actions of that bully DT2 member. that means DT1-2 member is no longer trusted and nobody should trust his/her positive feedbacks with no reference. why?

Because that DT1-2 member doesn't care about others and would only want us to trust his/her words. that is untrustworthy behavior and anybody acting that way should not be trusted.
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