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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 17, 2022, 02:14:32 AM

Quote from: janggernaut on November 17, 2022, 12:49:01 AM

Seems he didn't checked the recent news about owl.games, where they suspense the account just won $85,000. Recent update from owl.games is just removing all Bgaming gamea from their site, which still questionable, how could they didn't get in contact with their game developer until now? Not trying to defend anyone, but it's just took very long time to solve this problem

It's seems that you and @aew is not reading the latest update of Owl representative carefully before posting an attack or doubt here. You should hold your horses and wait for the Owl official decision regarding this matter.

It seems you are the one who not read carefully what i said, better to re-READ TWICE before post something on here. I have said they removed all bgaming games as you qouted that.

Quote from: Slow death on November 17, 2022, 04:42:28 AM

they still haven't solved the problem and from what I see it will take much longer to solve the problem, something very sad if you ask me, because when it's this type of case the casino needs to guarantee that it can solve the problem as quickly as possible, in this case I I think it shouldn't take too long because the OP wins seem strange to me so the provider wouldn't have too much trouble seeing this issue, but strangely it's taking a long time to resolve

Yeah, and sorry to say, thats like they are keep delaying the process because its has been more than 4 days. But hopefully i'm wrong on here, but who knows time will tell us

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Quote from: danadc on November 15, 2022, 06:26:20 PM

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Speaking generally i never took screenshot of my deposit in the gambling casino. Also why should be take screenshot when everything is visible in the deposit history. Still if you do not trust the gambling site and think they can manipulate with the deposits, the blockchain data will reveal everything.
Also, these days it is very easy to manipulate and tamper / edit the screenshot to produce a fake one, so i think that transactions on the blockchain are the safest way to provide the proof of deposits.

I have doubts here, I don't know what to do now, when we enter a casino it is better to take a screenshot just in case, that is not a bad thing, it is a very good security measure, and it could be taken as infallible to withstand any claim, it is difficult because sometimes the blockchain should be enough, but in this case I like that option, also when making withdrawals one should take a screenshot pro if they reject it, it is always good to do something like that to be able to have more security, although I think one thing, when they are going to scam you they do it so you have all the screenshots from when you registered on the site.

looking at this year and the scam cases we can see that it is better that we take a screen shot of the account balance whenever we deposit, win and withdraw, at least if the casino blocks the account the person will have proof to show, these scam cases are teaching us that from now on we need to do this. when the person doesn't do it and they post a scam accusation and everyone asks where the proof is and the person says they can't post proof because they had their account blocked and they didn't screen shot early so people don't believe you, everyone thinks they're doing it to lie.

Quote from: janggernaut on November 17, 2022, 12:49:01 AM

Quote from: aew on November 16, 2022, 06:14:12 PM

Do you mean a casino with 12000total visitors a month
and alexa rank of 2m+ have been through a lot ?

A casino as small as this ofcourse will
Shake heads before paying 85000usdt .

You don't need me to post to you the other posts where they accused of scam right ? Hopefully you kow how to use google.

You talked about evidence so where is the evidence the player done anything wrong or evidece that bgaming have bugs ?
Do you even think before you post ?

Seems he didn't checked the recent news about owl.games, where they suspense the account just won $85,000. Recent update from owl.games is just removing all Bgaming gamea from their site, which still questionable, how could they didn't get in contact with their game developer until now? Not trying to defend anyone, but it's just took very long time to solve this problem

they still haven't solved the problem and from what I see it will take much longer to solve the problem, something very sad if you ask me, because when it's this type of case the casino needs to guarantee that it can solve the problem as quickly as possible, in this case I I think it shouldn't take too long because the OP wins seem strange to me so the provider wouldn't have too much trouble seeing this issue, but strangely it's taking a long time to resolve

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Quote from: janggernaut on November 17, 2022, 12:49:01 AM

Quote from: aew on November 16, 2022, 06:14:12 PM

Do you mean a casino with 12000total visitors a month
and alexa rank of 2m+ have been through a lot ?

A casino as small as this ofcourse will
Shake heads before paying 85000usdt .

You don't need me to post to you the other posts where they accused of scam right ? Hopefully you kow how to use google.

You talked about evidence so where is the evidence the player done anything wrong or evidece that bgaming have bugs ?
Do you even think before you post ?

Seems he didn't checked the recent news about owl.games, where they suspense the account just won $85,000. Recent update from owl.games is just removing all Bgaming gamea from their site, which still questionable, how could they didn't get in contact with their game developer until now? Not trying to defend anyone, but it's just took very long time to solve this problem

It's seems that you and @aew is not reading the latest update of Owl representative carefully before posting an attack or doubt here. You should hold your horses and wait for the Owl official decision regarding this matter.

The case of the guy is not yet closed and still under investigation since they are verifying carefully all the bet logs of the account involved. The account is new and obviously display a rare winning luck so I understand Owl stand here but they should be transparent all the time like what they are doing rn.

Here's the latest post of Owl for your reference.

Quote from: owlgames on November 16, 2022, 05:01:51 AM

Most Recent Update:

1. We urgently delisted all BGAMING games with feature-buy feature but we have recovered some of them.
2. We are still waiting for our game provider to check the bet logs.
3. We are working diligently between the parties involved.

Please also note that the acc is brand new and has no history with our casino, we had several incidents with players who exploited game bugs before, which even caused a bigger game provider to recall one of their games. So we are trying to be more cautious.

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Quote from: aew on November 16, 2022, 06:14:12 PM

Do you mean a casino with 12000total visitors a month
and alexa rank of 2m+ have been through a lot ?

A casino as small as this ofcourse will
Shake heads before paying 85000usdt .

You don't need me to post to you the other posts where they accused of scam right ? Hopefully you kow how to use google.

You talked about evidence so where is the evidence the player done anything wrong or evidece that bgaming have bugs ?
Do you even think before you post ?

Seems he didn't checked the recent news about owl.games, where they suspense the account just won $85,000. Recent update from owl.games is just removing all Bgaming gamea from their site, which still questionable, how could they didn't get in contact with their game developer until now? Not trying to defend anyone, but it's just took very long time to solve this problem

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Quote from: Odusko on November 16, 2022, 06:01:07 PM

Quote from: aew on November 16, 2022, 05:50:41 PM

I searched owl games scam and found up anyone who won big they suspend his account and accusing him of cheating.
Not only the guy who won 85000usd if you guys see his thread at scam accusations directly the representative of owl.games accused him of cheating without even investigating or ask Bgaming
I emailed Bgaming support they don't have any bugs and have over 700 casinos.
I think owl games use those dirty tactics when they have no money to pay a player or simply they don't want to pay.
I recommend anyone to be careful search owl games scams on google and read

Without any evidence to support the claim no one will take it seriously, owl have been through a lot of ups and down in the most recent time and if one is not careful, we may arrive at a judgment that will point to our decision on whether owl is guilty of the accusation or not, this is the reason why when there are such cases of blocking of an account, it becomes difficult to know who is wrong or right between the casino vs the client whose account is blocked. So as much as possible, let us try to keep records of our bets and deposits in case of a time as this with evidence, the case will be a lot easier to resolve.

Do you mean a casino with 12000total visitors a month
and alexa rank of 2m+ have been through a lot ?

A casino as small as this ofcourse will
Shake heads before paying 85000usdt .

You don't need me to post to you the other posts where they accused of scam right ? Hopefully you kow how to use google.

You talked about evidence so where is the evidence the player done anything wrong or evidece that bgaming have bugs ?
Do you even think before you post ?

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Quote from: aew on November 16, 2022, 05:50:41 PM

I searched owl games scam and found up anyone who won big they suspend his account and accusing him of cheating.
Not only the guy who won 85000usd if you guys see his thread at scam accusations directly the representative of owl.games accused him of cheating without even investigating or ask Bgaming
I emailed Bgaming support they don't have any bugs and have over 700 casinos.
I think owl games use those dirty tactics when they have no money to pay a player or simply they don't want to pay.
I recommend anyone to be careful search owl games scams on google and read

Without any evidence to support the claim no one will take it seriously, owl have been through a lot of ups and down in the most recent time and if one is not careful, we may arrive at a judgment that will point to our decision on whether owl is guilty of the accusation or not, this is the reason why when there are such cases of blocking of an account, it becomes difficult to know who is wrong or right between the casino vs the client whose account is blocked. So as much as possible, let us try to keep records of our bets and deposits in case of a time as this with evidence, the case will be a lot easier to resolve.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?
He also said, he joined owl.games because his account (on another casino) got limited and he wanted to bet more. So he deposited 2k but bet only 0.6 on sports (that he doesn't care about) and the rest on slots.
His account got suspended on bc.games but he didn't create a scam accusation thread against them. But when owl.games did the same, he thought it's OK to do it.
Another time, let's just wait for the game provider response.

I understand that you work for owl games from your avatar so sure you will say such things.

If you went to his screenshot of deposit you will see he took it after his account balance is 40000usdt
I woild do the same. Your argumemt is so dumb and has no theme his deposit was 2000.

It's better you shut up the Bgaming will answer soon
Actually now you accusing the player for cheating and accusing a big provider like Bgaming of having bugs
It's ridiculous Bgaming have 700casino partners .
Beside that there were many scam accusations against owl games here in the forum went resolved before it's resolved you and the other representative of owl games come to the thread accusing ops of beong cheaters then magically after the cases resolved
.it's same patterns nkw too you guys have no proofs

Pay the guy his money already
Hopefully Bgaming will come to expose you

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I searched owl games scam and found up anyone who won big they suspend his account and accusing him of cheating.
Not only the guy who won 85000usd if you guys see his thread at scam accusations directly the representative of owl.games accused him of cheating without even investigating or ask Bgaming
I emailed Bgaming support they don't have any bugs and over 700 casinos.
I think owl games use those dirty tactics when they have no money to pay a player or simply they don't want to pay.
I recommend anyone to becareful search owl games scam in google and read

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Quote from: FatFork on November 16, 2022, 04:05:36 AM

Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Generally, I don't take screenshots of my deposits. The blockchain is much more credible and trustworthy form of evidence, anyway. Of course, if you don't trust the casino completely and you want to ensure that they aren't lying about your deposit and withdrawal times, then by all means take screenshots. I don't personally do this because I trust the casinos I play at and I don't have any reason to not trust them.

It depends on your experience if you've been scammed before you will take precautions every time you do everything at the casinos you're playing especially if you're depositing a big amount of money, I have never screenshot my deposits all the casinos I'm playing are all good, the lesson when playing in casinos is when in doubt don't, going back to the topic of the complainant, the price of Owl is still doing good checking the pool and the amount staked many holders still trust Owl token lets see after the report lets see what direction Owl token will be heading, this issue will have an impact on the price of the token.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

I have never done that, and I don't feel it is necessary and important to do because when we have chosen to make a deposit, it means we already trust it and the tx id is strong enough to prove that we are making a deposit, today I just made a deposit at one of the bookmakers to following the competition regarding the World Cup and not taking screenshots

Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

He also said, he joined owl.games because his account (on another casino) got limited and he wanted to bet more. So he deposited 2k but bet only 0.6 on sports (that he doesn't care about) and the rest on slots.
His account got suspended on bc.games but he didn't create abscam accusation thread against them. But when owl.games did the same, he thought it's OK to do it.
Another time, let's just wait for Tha game provider response.

It's like a double standard

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Generally, I don't take screenshots of my deposits. The blockchain is much more credible and trustworthy form of evidence, anyway. Of course, if you don't trust the casino completely and you want to ensure that they aren't lying about your deposit and withdrawal times, then by all means take screenshots. I don't personally do this because I trust the casinos I play at and I don't have any reason to not trust them.

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Quote from: danadc on November 15, 2022, 06:26:20 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2022, 02:55:33 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Speaking generally i never took screenshot of my deposit in the gambling casino. Also why should be take screenshot when everything is visible in the deposit history. Still if you do not trust the gambling site and think they can manipulate with the deposits, the blockchain data will reveal everything.
Also, these days it is very easy to manipulate and tamper / edit the screenshot to produce a fake one, so i think that transactions on the blockchain are the safest way to provide the proof of deposits.

I have doubts here, I don't know what to do now, when we enter a casino it is better to take a screenshot just in case, that is not a bad thing, it is a very good security measure, and it could be taken as infallible to withstand any claim, it is difficult because sometimes the blockchain should be enough, but in this case I like that option, also when making withdrawals one should take a screenshot pro if they reject it, it is always good to do something like that to be able to have more security, although I think one thing, when they are going to scam you they do it so you have all the screenshots from when you registered on the site.

Screen shots are always a good idea.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2022, 02:55:33 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Speaking generally i never took screenshot of my deposit in the gambling casino. Also why should be take screenshot when everything is visible in the deposit history. Still if you do not trust the gambling site and think they can manipulate with the deposits, the blockchain data will reveal everything.
Also, these days it is very easy to manipulate and tamper / edit the screenshot to produce a fake one, so i think that transactions on the blockchain are the safest way to provide the proof of deposits.

I have doubts here, I don't know what to do now, when we enter a casino it is better to take a screenshot just in case, that is not a bad thing, it is a very good security measure, and it could be taken as infallible to withstand any claim, it is difficult because sometimes the blockchain should be enough, but in this case I like that option, also when making withdrawals one should take a screenshot pro if they reject it, it is always good to do something like that to be able to have more security, although I think one thing, when they are going to scam you they do it so you have all the screenshots from when you registered on the site.

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From your avatar we can tell that OWL.games is paying you for advertising, or you are still a member of their team,

As I said, am not member of them and never was. I'm a participant in their sig. campaign. So, technically, you are right, I'm getting paid for advertising their service. But this will never affect my opinions/judgment. If I've the slightest doubt that they would scam, I'll stop promoting them immediately.

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1) Namely, since I'm not new and I knew I might run into problems with this being a big win, I took screenshots. Such crypto casinos as 1xbet have taught us all to do so.

Fair enough. I thought the screenshot was taken before you made the big win because it showed a deposit notification!

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3) BC.games casino didn't suspend my account and they didn't even ask me to submit my KYC. They just asked me to wait until they get a response from game provider and then confirm my payout. I.e. my account was not suspended, just withdrawal was not confirmed immediately

I believe account suspension is temporary and it's a precautionary measure and will be lifted when/if this case get resolved.
How long did it take till bc.games got a response from the game provider?

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2022, 02:55:33 PM

Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Speaking generally i never took screenshot of my deposit in the gambling casino. Also why should be take screenshot when everything is visible in the deposit history. Still if you do not trust the gambling site and think they can manipulate with the deposits, the blockchain data will reveal everything.
Also, these days it is very easy to manipulate and tamper / edit the screenshot to produce a fake one, so i think that transactions on the blockchain are the safest way to provide the proof of deposits.

doesn't crypto transactions have a transaction id on the chain site so it's easier to take it as proof than a screenshot even though it's also needed for additional proof when the deposit process is not processed correctly, sometimes I often take screenshots on sites I just visited for prevent when they suddenly cheated changing the address of the available deposit wallet and made me lose my money, so I need a screenshot of my deposit address and also the proof of the transaction, but for screenshots the deposit amount is not too important because I don't think there is time to collect captures my deposit and withdrawal amount screen

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 06:41:40 PM

Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?

Speaking generally i never took screenshot of my deposit in the gambling casino. Also why should be take screenshot when everything is visible in the deposit history. Still if you do not trust the gambling site and think they can manipulate with the deposits, the blockchain data will reveal everything.
Also, these days it is very easy to manipulate and tamper / edit the screenshot to produce a fake one, so i think that transactions on the blockchain are the safest way to provide the proof of deposits.

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Since most of you guys who post here are gamblers, may I ask you: how many of you take screenshots of their deposits on casinos?? OP did?
He also said, he joined owl.games because his account (on another casino) got limited and he wanted to bet more. So he deposited 2k but bet only 0.6 on sports (that he doesn't care about) and the rest on slots.
His account got suspended on bc.games but he didn't create a scam accusation thread against them. But when owl.games did the same, he thought it's OK to do it.
Another time, let's just wait for the game provider response.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on November 14, 2022, 11:39:23 AM

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I just want to comment: You disable games due to possible bugs on the recommendation of the game provider.

however, in other casinos, these games still work fine. Why didn't game provider inform other betting companies about possible bug? Why are all the other bgaming games still working? why were the games that I played but were unprofitable removed?

I can't answer that question. We need to wait for till the game provider finishes their investigation. Maybe the bug (if exists) is in the casino's script and not the game itself. I believe this question is irrelevant, for the moment.
FYI, I'm not part of the owl.games team. But I highly believe they are an honest casino and this is why I suggested you to wait.

I am not sure who is right in this case. Whether the casino will take responsibility or it comes under the game provider's responsibility?

However, one thing i am also pretty confident that he will get the best possible resolution to this case as Owl.games is one of the trusted casinos and you can trust their judgment on the case.

He has given some solid arguments on his case, i am interested to know what will Owl.games and the game provider will come up with the resolution.

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I think we should wait on the admin to make a final judgment on this case, I don't think owl games are at fault in this situation since there was an already existing big, and the warnings came from the games provider.
This can be a clear sign of system abuse by a player who took advantage of the bug to cheat the casino.

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I just want to comment: You disable games due to possible bugs on the recommendation of the game provider.

however, in other casinos, these games still work fine. Why didn't game provider inform other betting companies about possible bug? Why are all the other bgaming games still working? why were the games that I played but were unprofitable removed?

A simple common sense will give you answer. Simply they are assuming that you have aome software to rigged that specific slot games on there casino. The security of each casino has different type which is why you can use the cheat software on Owl while you can’t on other casino.

They just did this as safety precaution since you manage to get that huge win that specific game provider.

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