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legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
August 29, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
you still don't get it do you, the greed of cashing out cheaply picked up bonds for bitcents on a bitcoin is blinding you -  GLBSE PPTs are NOT BTCST Trust Sub-accounts there is nothing for Goat/Nefario to submit to Pirate. GBLSE should not, can't and won't release their user's data to 3rd parties without a legal motion such as court order
1. Create "mule" GLBSE account named ronald_mcdonald
2. Transfer over all bonds to mule account
3. Submit info to Pirate
4. Huh
5. Profit
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 10:26:05 AM
you being a Goat's laying bitch.
And now you pretending to be surprised that I chose the later Smiley

Is laying a step up or down?

I feign no surprise, I place you in the tinfoil hat category of people so expect to hear all sorts of things.
How should I know if the lie was a step up, or down, for you?
For me, such a lie, would have definitely been a step down.
But since you are so stupid, and so I cannot put myself in your position - I believe that you may still be thinking that it was leading you up...

legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 10:21:31 AM
you being a Goat's laying bitch.
And now you pretending to be surprised that I chose the later Smiley

Is laying a step up or down?

I feign no surprise, I place you in the tinfoil hat category of people so expect to hear all sorts of things.
How should I know if the lie was a step up, or down, for you?
For me, such a lie, would have definitely been a step down.
But since you are so stupid, and so I cannot put myself in your position - I believe that you may still be thinking that it was leading you up...
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
you being a Goat's laying bitch.
And now you pretending to be surprised that I chose the later Smiley

Is laying a step up or down?

I feign no surprise, I place you in the tinfoil hat category of people so expect to hear all sorts of things.
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
August 29, 2012, 10:17:27 AM
Wrd, on top of that I don't understand why bonds are ”tricky”. Just pay out the security issuer (Goat) and let him divvy it up from there. The only reason why it would be ”tricky” is if he (or whoever its using him aa sock puppet) wanted to ID all the bond holders. I wonder why he would want to do that?

A silly question: Why would pirate40 want to identify all bond holders? IRS?

That's the 5 millions dollars question Smiley

For right now I will assume yes... I think he has a gun to his head.

Agreed :/

Gotta hide in Cuba for years now when IRS finds out I had 5 btc.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 10:14:31 AM
Oh, spare me the crap, Nefario.
You simply left me with the choice of me being crazy, not remembering a number I saw yesterday - or you being a Goat's laying bitch.
And now you pretending to be surprised that I chose the later - what the hell were you thinking I'd choose? Smiley
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 10:12:24 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.
The proof of Goat selling empty PPT bonds?
Or the proof or you being his lying bitch?

Both.
1) The number of active assets is 30175 ATM, while it was far below 27895, after Pirate announced that he's stopping accepting deposits.
2) You are denying this simple fact.

Look Mr. conspiracy theorist,

I provided you with all the numbers for that asset you requested(dates as well), and all you could provide was "I remember them being different", you got chewed out by everyone else on that thread as well because you're so damn sure you remembered several sets of numbers, dates and times over a period of a few days and that the numbers I provided (pulled from a DB) are wrong, and therefor I must be in league with Goat.

Now, as I've said I'll give users signed receipts of their asset balance (but not give user details to pirate) what else have you got to say, except to trot out your theory that the rest of the world is conspiring against specifically you.


I believe it would be stupid for any GLBSE user to get a receipt to give to pirate, it won't increase their chance of getting paid, and will reduce the chance other users will (not that I think they have a chance either way), pirate will keep making excuses not to pay.

I also believe it would be dangerous for GLBSE users to give such information to pirate, why in the world would he want it?
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2012, 10:09:28 AM
Wrd, on top of that I don't understand why bonds are ”tricky”. Just pay out the security issuer (Goat) and let him divvy it up from there. The only reason why it would be ”tricky” is if he (or whoever its using him aa sock puppet) wanted to ID all the bond holders. I wonder why he would want to do that?

A silly question: Why would pirate40 want to identify all bond holders? IRS?

That's the 5 millions dollars question Smiley

For right now I will assume yes... I think he has a gun to his head.

Agreed :/
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
Wrd, on top of that I don't understand why bonds are ”tricky”. Just pay out the security issuer (Goat) and let him divvy it up from there. The only reason why it would be ”tricky” is if he (or whoever its using him aa sock puppet) wanted to ID all the bond holders. I wonder why he would want to do that?

A silly question: Why would pirate40 want to identify all bond holders? IRS?

That's the 5 millions dollars question Smiley
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
August 29, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
Wrd, on top of that I don't understand why bonds are ”tricky”. Just pay out the security issuer (Goat) and let him divvy it up from there. The only reason why it would be ”tricky” is if he (or whoever its using him aa sock puppet) wanted to ID all the bond holders. I wonder why he would want to do that?

A silly question: Why would pirate40 want to identify all bond holders? IRS?
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 09:59:48 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.
The proof of Goat selling empty PPT bonds?
Or the proof or you being his lying bitch?

Both.
1) The number of active assets is 30175 ATM, while it was far below 27895, after Pirate announced that he's stopping accepting deposits.
2) You are denying this simple fact.

plus, let me quote something from an IRC channel - that was 2 days ago:

Quote
Chaaang-Noi: you are goignto have a crowd with pitchforks coming after you
why?
i paid my insured bonds
see that wall of bids?
its enough to buy back everything
the odds are just as great they will come after you.
ha
nefario, not form lack of oxygen but buildup of carbon dioxide
EB250: but I like carbon dioxide
seems we're in this together goat
get the chainsaws
nice pic BTW
i think they will be going after pirate not us
we did out part
what pic?
boat?
or tower?
ja
boat
ahh  Smiley
honestly i like the tower one better but then again i have a thing for asian girls
link?
1 sec
see if this works
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j343/TyGrrTech/P8240312.jpg
its the only other recent photo iv posted
outside 81st floor Smiley
was epic
is that your wife?
yeah
she did not like the boat photo so much
tanned as fuck
she is thai lol
people here avoid the sun like the plague
yeah she used to, i told her i dont give a fuck and come play on the beach with me...
seem to admire my white ass for it's milky color
so she did
yeah
pale face
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 09:53:10 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.
The proof of Goat selling empty PPT bonds?
Or the proof or you being his lying bitch?

Both.
1) The number of active assets is 30175 ATM, while it was far below 27895, after Pirate announced that he's stopping accepting deposits.
2) You are denying this simple fact.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: tbcoin
Although the pirate's request is extremely odd, if it were the only way to receive payments, can bondholders authorize the transfer of that information ?, so that GLBSE no infringes any data protection law

Yes, at the request of bond holder we can provide GPG signed reciepts stating how many of the asset the person holds, it would mean that they would no longer be able to trade that asset afterwards (i.e. it would be stuck in their account) otherwise they would be able to game the system.

It seems right.

So why has not considered this possibility before tell him "we can't"? Although insist again the absurdity, rare and risky of his request

Because thats not what he was asking, I was being asked to give GLBSE users details to pirate, which I can't. It's different from "can GLBSE users get a signed receipt of the pirate related assets they hold".

Besides, that won't get you anything, as pirate has said before his obligation is not to any of the PPT owners.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
August 29, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Quote from: tbcoin
Although the pirate's request is extremely odd, if it were the only way to receive payments, can bondholders authorize the transfer of that information ?, so that GLBSE no infringes any data protection law

Yes, at the request of bond holder we can provide GPG signed reciepts stating how many of the asset the person holds, it would mean that they would no longer be able to trade that asset afterwards (i.e. it would be stuck in their account) otherwise they would be able to game the system.

It seems right.

So why has not considered this possibility before tell him "we can't"? Although insist again the absurdity, rare and risky of his request
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 09:48:42 AM
Either way I wont pass anything on as I do not have sub accounts. I only have one personal account. My GLBSE obligations are unrelated to Pirate.

Pirate can suck my dick and I will see him in court if he wants to pull this BS.
I think sooner you will see your own customers in court.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 09:48:17 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.
The proof of Goat selling empty PPT bonds?
Or the proof or you being his lying bitch?

Both.
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 09:45:02 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.
The proof of Goat selling empty PPT bonds?
Or the proof or you being his lying bitch?
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 513
GLBSE Support [email protected]
August 29, 2012, 09:42:22 AM

No - you still don't get it.
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.

Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed.

Absolutely baseless accusation, proof please.

Quote from: tbcoin
Although the pirate's request is extremely odd, if it were the only way to receive payments, can bondholders authorize the transfer of that information ?, so that GLBSE no infringes any data protection law

Yes, at the request of bond holder we can provide GPG signed reciepts stating how many of the asset the person holds, it would mean that they would no longer be able to trade that asset afterwards (i.e. it would be stuck in their account) otherwise they would be able to game the system.
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 29, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
can bondholders authorize the transfer of that information ?, so that GLBSE no infringes any data protection law
no
why?
beause: nefario will tell you... Smiley
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
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August 29, 2012, 09:39:42 AM
here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
Oh how I wish that was true! I have so many Bitcoin businesses I'd love to operate if I could figure out how to do so without risking being caged.

The UK's financial legislation is roughly along the lines of "No one shall offer fianancial services except in accordance with the following regulations". That's broadly equivalent to "it's illegal unless we permit it".

Unfortunately it is the case. Otherwise I would be running both BTC stock exchange and BTC currency exchange as of 18 month ago and by now we would be in merger talks with Ribuck.

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