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If I so obviously violated the data protection act, as you are looking for, it would be the end of GLBSE, we would be fined into oblivion, and since GLBSE is being registered as a business when I arrive back from my holiday, I am particularly wary of taking such foolish action.
Man, I could have given you at least three different ways of letting the PPT bond holders proving to Pirate that they have their money in BS&T - and none of them would violate any privacy law.But I am not going to, because I know that a "privacy law" is just your stupid excuse and, after I write it all down, you will just come up with another stupid excuse.
So spare mi your legal expertise, because I don't believe a word you're saying.
you still don't get it do you, the greed of cashing out cheaply picked up bonds for cents on a dollar is blinding you - GLBSE PPTs are NOT BTCST Trust Sub-accounts there is nothing for Goat/Nefario to submit to Pirate. GBLSE should not, can't and won't release their user's data to 3rd parties without a legal motion such as court order
I don't have any PPT bonds and when I did, I did not buy them for cents.
Goat was trying to get himself rich by selling empty PPT bonds - and Nefario was helping him, probably being his partner in this business.
And now they are both screwed - because Pirate turned out to be much smarter and much more honest than these crooks.
Well, this last statement we will see... but so far it looks good
GLBSE is completely legal, I don't know what part of the world you're from, but here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
as a financial service provider who offer his services to the public you need to be registered.
It depends on whether bitcoin is considered to be a currency and the FSA has already determined that it's not (that may change in the future, but it would require legislation from the UK or EU level). As things currently stand GLBSE is a virtual stock exchange for a virtual currency.
I'm in London for the month so will be hitting up the FSA to register GLBSE if they'll let me, I don't believe they will.
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I agree with most of what you said. But being an enabler is still bad. Just look at all the people thrown in jail for running websites that link to pirated content but don't host it themselves; they are only enablers.
I don't believe so, there are pinkslip markets all over the world, this is currently what GLBSE is at the moment and even under the new standards we're bringing in (to separate assets into markets) all the PPT stuff would be in the pink section.
If I so obviously violated the data protection act, as you are looking for, it would be the end of GLBSE, we would be fined into oblivion, and since GLBSE is being registered as a business when I arrive back from my holiday, I am particularly wary of taking such foolish action.
Man, I could have given you at least three different ways of letting the PPT bond holders proving to Pirate that they have their money in BS&T - and none of them would violate any privacy law.But I am not going to, because I know that a "privacy law" is just your stupid excuse and, after I write it all down, you will just come up with another stupid excuse.
So spare mi your legal expertise, because I don't believe a word you're saying.
you still don't get it do you, the greed of cashing out cheaply picked up bonds for bitcents on a bitcoin is blinding you - GLBSE PPTs are NOT BTCST Trust Sub-accounts there is nothing for Goat/Nefario to submit to Pirate. GBLSE should not, can't and won't release their user's data to 3rd parties without a legal motion such as court order
here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
Oh how I wish that was true! I have so many Bitcoin businesses I'd love to operate if I could figure out how to do so without risking being caged.The UK's financial legislation is roughly along the lines of "No one shall offer fianancial services except in accordance with the following regulations". That's broadly equivalent to "it's illegal unless we permit it".
GLBSE is completely legal, I don't know what part of the world you're from, but here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
as a financial service provider who offer his services to the public you need to be registered.
you can make a small club and offer glbse there - would be completly legal.
(i dont really care if you do or dont, i just was amused that you said you wont disclouse this data because of the law)
This is why Bitcoin NEEDS a Legal Classification. People around here like to think that they can have it BOTH ways.
In terms of Pirate, everyone yells "have fun trying to call the cops and get back your imaginary math money"
Yet, in the case of the GLBSE, Nefario is a FINANCIAL SERVICE PROVIDER ? (GLBSE takes cash deposits now ?)
Which is it ? It MUST be either 1 or the other.
If I so obviously violated the data protection act, as you are looking for, it would be the end of GLBSE, we would be fined into oblivion, and since GLBSE is being registered as a business when I arrive back from my holiday, I am particularly wary of taking such foolish action.
Man, I could have given you at least three different ways of letting the PPT bond holders proving to Pirate that they have their money in BS&T - and none of them would violate any privacy law.But I am not going to, because I know that a "privacy law" is just your stupid excuse and, after I write it all down, you will just come up with another stupid excuse.
So spare mi your legal expertise, because I don't believe a word you're saying. And also, I think you're stupid so your advise on any matter is worthless for me.
GLBSE is completely legal, I don't know what part of the world you're from, but here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
as a financial service provider who offer his services to the public you need to be registered.
you can make a small club and offer glbse there - would be completly legal.
(i dont really care if you do or dont, i just was amused that you said you wont disclouse this data because of the law)
GLBSE is completely legal, I don't know what part of the world you're from, but here in the UK something has to be forbidden or outlawed to become illegal, everything that is not... is legal.
You had no problem with IPO's on GLBSE until recently (some of which you invested in...I'm sure), and it's not EU law, it's the UK's implementation of that law, and since I am British, and live in the UK, I am subject to those laws.
If I so obviously violated the data protection act, as you are looking for, it would be the end of GLBSE, we would be fined into oblivion, and since GLBSE is being registered as a business when I arrive back from my holiday, I am particularly wary of taking such foolish action.
What consequences will I be facing for not turning over my users details to some random person (pirate hasn't even asked me, do you know how hurtful that is!).
A person needs to commit a crime to be a crook, you willing gave your money to be given to pirate, an anonymous person, who wouldn't tell you what he was doing with it, and paying unreal returns. I think that was a dumb thing to do, but you willingly went and did it anyway, blinded by your greed (it was greed that motivated you wasn't it? those ROI were oh so tempting).
All I and goat did was allow you to do what you wanted to.
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The EU law was not a problem whatsoever, while you were running illegal IPOs.
You had no problem with IPO's on GLBSE until recently (some of which you invested in...I'm sure), and it's not EU law, it's the UK's implementation of that law, and since I am British, and live in the UK, I am subject to those laws.
If I so obviously violated the data protection act, as you are looking for, it would be the end of GLBSE, we would be fined into oblivion, and since GLBSE is being registered as a business when I arrive back from my holiday, I am particularly wary of taking such foolish action.
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The problem is not a law - the problem is that you are a cheeky bastard.
And you are going to face the
And you are going to face the
What consequences will I be facing for not turning over my users details to some random person (pirate hasn't even asked me, do you know how hurtful that is!).
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That's why I'm not sucking his cock, but just speaking out what I think - whether I will get the money back, or not, I still will keep to what I have said.
Goat and Nefario are two fucking crooks - and you are obviously somehow involved in their scams as well.
Goat and Nefario are two fucking crooks - and you are obviously somehow involved in their scams as well.
A person needs to commit a crime to be a crook, you willing gave your money to be given to pirate, an anonymous person, who wouldn't tell you what he was doing with it, and paying unreal returns. I think that was a dumb thing to do, but you willingly went and did it anyway, blinded by your greed (it was greed that motivated you wasn't it? those ROI were oh so tempting).
All I and goat did was allow you to do what you wanted to.
Is that a threat ?
who are you?what business do you have in defending these two crooks?
What business do you have calling people crooks ?
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It's his only business. Apparently business is good.
Is that a threat ?
who are you?what business do you have in defending these two crooks?
What business do you have calling people crooks ?
They didnt take your bitcoins pirate did.
They didn't take my bitcoins, but they did take someone's bitcoins.
And Pirate does want to pay these people back, but you crooks are doing anything you can to prevent that.
The latest excuse is the "EU privacy law"
(but i still dont like the way you write...a little more friendliness would suit you)
I can be polite... but I'm like a chameleon - adjusting the color of my friendliness to the environmental that I've found myself in.And this environment is very fucking unfriendly
Sucking pirates cock isnt going to get your coins back.
That's why I'm not sucking his cock, but just speaking out what I think - whether I will get the money back, or not, I still will keep to what I have said.
Goat and Nefario are two fucking crooks - and you are obviously somehow involved in their scams as well.
LOL.
Is that a threat ?
who are you?what business do you have in defending these two crooks?
What business do you have calling people crooks ?
They didnt take your bitcoins pirate did.
(but i still dont like the way you write...a little more friendliness would suit you)
I can be polite... but I'm like a chameleon - adjusting the color of my friendliness to the environmental that I've found myself in.And this environment is very fucking unfriendly
Sucking pirates cock isnt going to get your coins back.
That's why I'm not sucking his cock, but just speaking out what I think - whether I will get the money back, or not, I will keep to what I have said.
Goat and Nefario are two fucking crooks - and you are obviously somehow involved in their scams as well.
(but i still dont like the way you write...a little more friendliness would suit you)
I can be polite... but I'm like a chameleon - adjusting the color of my friendliness to the environmental that I've found myself in.And this environment is very fucking unfriendly
Sucking pirates cock isnt going to get your coins back.
Is that a threat ?
who are you?what business do you have in defending these two crooks?
(but i still dont like the way you write...a little more friendliness would suit you)
I can be polite... but I'm like a chameleon - adjusting the color of my friendliness to the environmental that I've found myself in.And this environment is very fucking unfriendly
Seriously, do you really think that Pirate gives a shit whether you will help your own customers to prove that they own the PPT bonds?
If you don't prove it - he will just keep the money waiting... and the people will come after you, not after him.
So if you think that the attitude of "no - we won't say who owns the bonds!" is going to do any good for you, then you must be even more stupid than I had thought.
If you don't prove it - he will just keep the money waiting... and the people will come after you, not after him.
So if you think that the attitude of "no - we won't say who owns the bonds!" is going to do any good for you, then you must be even more stupid than I had thought.
Tell pirate to go speak to the EU then, because the data protection act (1998) is the implementation of an EU wide directive, all EU countries must enact legislation that implements the directive.
So I can't by law give out shareholders details, and I believe the US has something similar. What pirate asking for is illegal.
The EU law was not a problem whatsoever, while you were running illegal IPOs.
And now you are suddenly so much about the EU law?
Give me a break
You could have solved in many different ways - without breaking any privacy laws.
The problem is not a law - the problem is that you are a cheeky bastard.
And you are going to face the consequences.
Is that a threat ?
Well, CLIENTS don't ask for soon-to-be 'Legal' representation documentation from creditors, on behalf of his/her hired Legal team.
Does he have a Legal Team ? ME THINKS NOT.
Does he have a Legal Team ? ME THINKS NOT.
I think involving lawyers in this is just throwing good money after bad.
Maybe but I'm not so sure. He has a house that can be seized.
Did you and the other large investors not DD this guy at all??
He HAD a house. Its mortgage was forclosed on a few years ago and the house was subsequently used in a short sale to cover the debt.
There are atleast one instance(s) of eviction.
Did he lead you guys to believe he was financialy sound or did you all assume such? :/
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