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sr. member
Activity: 451
Merit: 250
August 28, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Pirate thinks Breaking Bad wasn't good for a while?  When?  I've been watching the whole series and I think it has rocked every episode.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
August 28, 2012, 09:23:34 PM
Damn, he banned you?? That's fucked up.

He didn't ban him, just set the channel so only ops (operaters) could talk
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
August 28, 2012, 09:20:14 PM
Declaring bankruptcy before he can get sued.  Niiiiiiice
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
August 28, 2012, 09:19:13 PM
Damn, he banned you?? That's fucked up.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
August 28, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
new topic for #btcst is set by pirateat40

Code:
 Notice:  If you are a PPT operator please contact me via PM.  Thanks

Did you contact him and what did he tell you?

Enquiring minds want to know...
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
August 28, 2012, 06:13:59 PM
Especially if Pirate is the one who has bought them at a discount. Make a few token PPT payments and sell into the rally.

lol you're delusional if you think he's going to pay anybody back
legendary
Activity: 1031
Merit: 1000
August 28, 2012, 06:11:42 PM
unless Goat has one of the oldest btcst accounts and going to be repaid before anybody else he doesn't have much of an edge against everybody else. as soon news gets out that pirate is doing payments on irc and the forums, ALL PPTs at discount rate will be bought out instantly, Goat or not.  it's a fair game

Especially if Pirate is the one who has bought them at a discount. Make a few token PPT payments and sell into the rally.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank
August 28, 2012, 04:45:13 PM
new topic for #btcst is set by pirateat40

Code:
 Notice:  If you are a PPT operator please contact me via PM.  Thanks

Did you contact him and what did he tell you?
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 28, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
I don't actually have any TYGRR shares, I'm just here for the lulz.
And yes, you do bring up some good points every once in awhile in your vitriol laced posts. It's just that you're a jackass in all of them.
Jackass, troll, piotr_n - or whatever.
The words you call me - they mean nothing for me.

Now I'm only here to speak up the truth.
And for all you suckers out there who are jumping onto me now, I can promise to each single one of you that I will come back here one day, just to say the words: I told you so!

29130 now - still 10870 to go... You're doing just great, Goat! Smiley

given the circumstances, what do you suggest current bond holder should do?
i think i already said that. i want him to dump on the market as many bonds as possible. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
BTCRadio Owner
August 28, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
pray
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 28, 2012, 11:37:29 AM
I don't actually have any TYGRR shares, I'm just here for the lulz.
And yes, you do bring up some good points every once in awhile in your vitriol laced posts. It's just that you're a jackass in all of them.
Jackass, troll, piotr_n - or whatever.
The words you call me - they mean nothing for me.

Now I'm only here to speak up the truth.
And for all you suckers out there who are jumping onto me now, I can promise to each single one of you that I will come back here one day, just to say the words: I told you so!

29130 now - still 10870 to go... You're doing just great, Goat! Smiley

given the circumstances, what do you suggest current bond holder should do?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
August 28, 2012, 11:33:25 AM
I am clearly out for the best interest of the bond holders. I am doing what they asked.

A week ago I wanted to lock down trading on the bond but people in this thread asked me not to. No one asked me to lock down trading.

So people want to trade and people want liquidity. I am helping them with this.

If people do not want their bonds sold they should not offer them up for sale. Why should I not take part in the speculation just because I issued the bonds? This is not a children's game where I am here to protect you from yourself.

It is very silly for people to demand that we let the stock trade and then cry out when, shock, trading happens...

If you do not want your bonds sold then please do not offer them for sale. I assure you I will not buy any bonds that are not offered up for sale!


If pirate does send and I get the coins to GLBSE I will be buying all of the bonds offered for sale. I'm not going to wait for people to adjust their book.

Again if you do not want your bonds sold please do not list them for sale!
 

I do agree with your decision to allow trading of the bond, as this allows those who believe there will be no payment to sell their bonds to limit their loss, and those who believe in repayment to gamble on this. No disagreement here.

Regarding you speculating on your own assets, I am not saying what you should or shouldn't. I am not saying it is right or wrong. I am just saying that I personally (and from the feedback it seems to be only me...) would not put money into an asset where I knew the issuer was trading/speculating against his own investors, because the issuer is more or less guaranteed to win because of the information gap that will exist between issuer and investor. The issuer will always know more than the investors about what is going on with the asset. In this particular instance, the issuer (you) will probably know more about the Pirate situation than most others, and in the case of a repayment of your account at Pirate's, you will most certainly know before everyone else. So speculating against you brings very little chance of winning.

Furthermore, by speculating on your own security, your interests are suddenly the opposite of your investors'. I would not want to buy or hold an asset where that is the case. But again, I am not trying to say what is right or wrong. I am just expressing what kinds of investing situations I'm trying to avoid.
And yes, you are very open about this so people know what their getting into at this point so those speculating on this bond at this moment shouldn't complain.

And just to be clear, I do not hold any of your bonds anymore. I sold at 0.6-0.8 in the time after the announcement from Pirate.

unless Goat has one of the oldest btcst accounts and going to be repaid before anybody else he doesn't have much of an edge against everybody else. as soon news gets out that pirate is doing payments on irc and the forums, ALL PPTs at discount rate will be bought out instantly, Goat or not.  it's a fair game
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 28, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
I don't actually have any TYGRR shares, I'm just here for the lulz.
And yes, you do bring up some good points every once in awhile in your vitriol laced posts. It's just that you're a jackass in all of them.
Jackass, troll, piotr_n - or whatever.
The words you call me - they mean nothing for me.

Now I'm only here to speak up the truth.
And for all you suckers out there who are jumping onto me now, I can promise to each single one of you that I will come back here one day, just to say the words: I told you so!

29130 now - still 10870 to go... You're doing just great, Goat! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
August 28, 2012, 10:19:55 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.

lol
you start to amuse me Wink
I can only assume that that is the reason why piotr's ignore link doesn't glow red and flash.

I wise man once said:
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

You are a bunch of fucking suckers - that's all you are.
The guy is screwing you all over, however he likes, laughing right into your face - and you are so happy with it..  Roll Eyes

I don't actually have any TYGRR shares, I'm just here for the lulz.
And yes, you do bring up some good points every once in awhile in your vitriol laced posts. It's just that you're a jackass in all of them.
full member
Activity: 134
Merit: 100
August 28, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
I am clearly out for the best interest of the bond holders. I am doing what they asked.

A week ago I wanted to lock down trading on the bond but people in this thread asked me not to. No one asked me to lock down trading.

So people want to trade and people want liquidity. I am helping them with this.

If people do not want their bonds sold they should not offer them up for sale. Why should I not take part in the speculation just because I issued the bonds? This is not a children's game where I am here to protect you from yourself.

It is very silly for people to demand that we let the stock trade and then cry out when, shock, trading happens...

If you do not want your bonds sold then please do not offer them for sale. I assure you I will not buy any bonds that are not offered up for sale!


If pirate does send and I get the coins to GLBSE I will be buying all of the bonds offered for sale. I'm not going to wait for people to adjust their book.

Again if you do not want your bonds sold please do not list them for sale!
 

I do agree with your decision to allow trading of the bond, as this allows those who believe there will be no payment to sell their bonds to limit their loss, and those who believe in repayment to gamble on this. No disagreement here.

Regarding you speculating on your own assets, I am not saying what you should or shouldn't. I am not saying it is right or wrong. I am just saying that I personally (and from the feedback it seems to be only me...) would not put money into an asset where I knew the issuer was trading/speculating against his own investors, because the issuer is more or less guaranteed to win because of the information gap that will exist between issuer and investor. The issuer will always know more than the investors about what is going on with the asset. In this particular instance, the issuer (you) will probably know more about the Pirate situation than most others, and in the case of a repayment of your account at Pirate's, you will most certainly know before everyone else. So speculating against you brings very little chance of winning.

Furthermore, by speculating on your own security, your interests are suddenly the opposite of your investors'. I would not want to buy or hold an asset where that is the case. But again, I am not trying to say what is right or wrong. I am just expressing what kinds of investing situations I'm trying to avoid.
And yes, you are very open about this so people know what their getting into at this point so those speculating on this bond at this moment shouldn't complain.

And just to be clear, I do not hold any of your bonds anymore. I sold at 0.6-0.8 in the time after the announcement from Pirate.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
August 28, 2012, 08:23:16 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.

lol
you start to amuse me Wink
I can only assume that that is the reason why piotr's ignore link doesn't glow red and flash.

I wise man once said:
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

You are a bunch of fucking suckers - that's all you are.
The guy is screwing you all over, however he likes, laughing right into your face - and you are so happy with it..  Roll Eyes

i was never screwed by goat.
i did even buy some of his -B bond at very low prices.

luckily i never ignore anybody so i guess i can only win Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 28, 2012, 08:21:23 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.

lol
you start to amuse me Wink
I can only assume that that is the reason why piotr's ignore link doesn't glow red and flash.

I wise man once said:
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

You are a bunch of fucking suckers - that's all you are.
The guy is screwing you all over, however he likes, laughing right into your face - and you are so happy with it..  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
August 28, 2012, 08:18:36 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.

lol
you start to amuse me Wink
I can only assume that that is the reason why piotr's ignore link doesn't glow red and flash.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
August 28, 2012, 08:17:04 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.

lol
you start to amuse me Wink
legendary
Activity: 2053
Merit: 1356
aka tonikt
August 28, 2012, 08:09:30 AM
If I wanted to hide my "manipulation" I would just have a second account.
Second account wouldn't help you anyhow to hide your scam of dumping empty PPT bonds onto the market.

Unless your bitch would have change the API - so the system would lie about your scam.
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