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Quote from: minerjones on December 09, 2015, 09:22:42 AM

Quote from: bithalo on December 09, 2015, 09:08:01 AM

I think in the case with smoothie, you're right...you have:

smoothie pre-funded = Pre-Funded
buyer enforced pre-funded but not lasered = Buyer-Funded
unfunded but lasered Buyer Funded = Unfunded

I agree...it does get confusing because I think we're using the category 'Buyer-Funded' when smoothie uses it to denote something else.

My concern is not trying to have too many unnecessary categories. IMO, there's already a lot as it is. I personally don't think we want a Unfunded and Buyer Post Funded, because any Unfunded coin can turn into a Buyer Post Funded.

Are the Lealana's the only coins to use this system/naming??

Yes, at least from my point of view, before I hand the complete list over to elianite to review & edit, Lealana's are currently the only coins to use BF. They should also will have PF and UF as mentioned above.

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Quote from: bithalo on December 09, 2015, 09:08:01 AM

I think in the case with smoothie, you're right...you have:

smoothie pre-funded = Pre-Funded
buyer enforced pre-funded but not lasered = Buyer-Funded
unfunded but lasered Buyer Funded = Unfunded

I agree...it does get confusing because I think we're using the category 'Buyer-Funded' when smoothie uses it to denote something else.

My concern is not trying to have too many unnecessary categories. IMO, there's already a lot as it is. I personally don't think we want a Unfunded and Buyer Post Funded, because any Unfunded coin can turn into a Buyer Post Funded.

Are the Lealana's the only coins to use this system/naming??

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I think in the case with smoothie, you're right...you have:

smoothie pre-funded = Pre-Funded
buyer enforced pre-funded but not lasered = Buyer-Funded
unfunded but lasered Buyer Funded = Unfunded

I agree...it does get confusing because I think we're using the category 'Buyer-Funded' when smoothie uses it to denote something else.

My concern is not trying to have too many unnecessary categories. IMO, there's already a lot as it is. I personally don't think we want a Unfunded and Buyer Post Funded, because any Unfunded coin can turn into a Buyer Post Funded.

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Quote from: elianite on December 08, 2015, 09:34:28 PM

New Coin Naming Convention

I have put together the below standardized format for identifying coins and rounds in the book. IU hope that it becomes standard among physical crypto-currency.

PF - Pre-Funded (coin funded directly by the manufacturer): Casascius, Microsoul, Titan, TGBEX, Crypto Imperator, Alitin, Nasty Fans seat coins

BF - Buyer-Funded (buyer funds coin directly, before it is shipped): Some Lealana coins

UF - Un-Funded (shipped with private key secured, but without loaded value): Ravenbit, an option for many coins

DIY - Do It Yourself (Hologram Sticker or other affixed by customer): Silver Wallets, SerpCoin DIY,

2FA - 2 FActor (loaded value is not redeemable with the Private Key alone): Some Casascius bars, bhCoins 2-factor coin

Round - (no intention/capability to be used to store crypto-currency; cont considered a 'coin'): Anarcoins, Bitcoinnerd, MJB Monetary Metals,

Arent there 3 kinds on Lealana that woulnt be entirely distinguishable from the PF and BF ?

ie
original smoothie funded, definate Pre Funded PF

later self funded prior to smoothie shipping, not lasered as buyer funded, but not funded by smoothie .... are you classing these as Buyer funded BF ? They fit your description, but its confusing, as they arent lasered that way (and others are)

later non funded, but lasered with buyer funded .... from your descriptions .... even though they say buyer funded on the coin, they are unfunded UF ?

Could we have a change in terms to avoid the possible confusion ?

Maker Pre funded
Buyer Pre funded
Buyer (Post) funded
Unfunded

Or similar ?

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New Coin Naming Convention

I have put together the below standardized format for identifying coins and rounds in the book. IU hope that it becomes standard among physical crypto-currency.

PF - Pre-Funded (coin funded directly by the manufacturer): Casascius, Microsoul, Titan, TGBEX, Crypto Imperator, Alitin, Nasty Fans seat coins

BF - Buyer-Funded (buyer funds coin directly, before it is shipped): Some Lealana coins

UF - Un-Funded (shipped with private key secured, but without loaded value): Ravenbit, an option for many coins

DIY - Do It Yourself (Hologram Sticker or other affixed by customer): Silver Wallets, SerpCoin DIY,

2FA - 2 FActor (loaded value is not redeemable with the Private Key alone): Some Casascius bars, bhCoins 2-factor coin

Round - (no intention/capability to be used to store crypto-currency; cont considered a 'coin'): Anarcoins, Bitcoinnerd, MJB Monetary Metals,

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While I'm not a collector of physical bitcoins (yet), this seems like a fantastic book that I may just need to get my hands on. Although I won't be able to make that decision until after the holidays are done with.

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Quote from: elianite on December 03, 2015, 06:14:31 PM

Quote from: bithalo on December 03, 2015, 12:56:06 PM

Looking really good. Nice coin photos BTW

Indeed they are! Wink

The photo credit here goes to Bithalo, who has been making some extremely valuable contributions to the book by verifying & expanding my database and volunteering to take photos of his own collection. Since this is a color book with many large photos, having good photos makes a world of difference.

Thankyou.

You're welcome. It's been my pleasure to help you out and contribute to the encyclopedia.

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Quote from: minerjones on December 03, 2015, 08:00:29 AM

Quote from: elianite on December 03, 2015, 12:33:48 AM

Sneak Peek!

Looks great!! Cheesy

Will there be page numbers??

Also, all except the Satoshi coin from Ravenbit are called "Node xxx" https://ravenbit.com/coins/ This link also has release dates, not just the year!!!

Thanks

Page numbers will be inserted before the final copy goes to print. Right now it's just 180 individual pages grouped together by mint, with Matthew having an additional ~20 pages of text that will compose the more academic portion. I have another 30-40 pages to put together, and revamp the Casascius section.
End result will likely be ~250 pages.

One difficulty is the naming. I have taken to naming the coins in a rather generic way, such as '1BTC Brass Coin, 2015', tied to the manufacturer. If multiple coins that would have the same name are made by the same manufacturer in the same year, I've used 'v1, v2' to differentiate. I have also used 'names' of the coins (nicknames or given by manufacturers) in quotation marks after the more 'formal' categorization name.
Perhaps this one will look like this:

Ravenbit
Antique Bronze Coin, 2014 'Node 2.4'

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Quote from: bithalo on December 03, 2015, 12:56:06 PM

Looking really good. Nice coin photos BTW

Indeed they are! Wink

The photo credit here goes to Bithalo, who has been making some extremely valuable contributions to the book by verifying & expanding my database and volunteering to take photos of his own collection. Since this is a color book with many large photos, having good photos makes a world of difference.

Thankyou.

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Looking really good. Nice coin photos BTW

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Quote from: elianite on December 03, 2015, 12:33:48 AM

Sneak Peek!

The color Scheme has not yet been settled, but you can expect this type of format.
The image you see is the level of completion at which 70% of the book is at this point.

Note that this format is one of two 'base' formats for the catalouge portion, and is used primarily in cases where there is a good photo available and alot of text is not required. When space for text is the priority, the photos are both side by side at the top, but much larger than in the original Casascius book. A third format is one which includes two coin listings on a single page. These formats do vary, but are based on the three main templates.

Looks great!! Cheesy

Will there be page numbers??

Also, all except the Satoshi coin from Ravenbit are called "Node xxx" https://ravenbit.com/coins/ This link also has release dates, not just the year!!!

Thanks

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Sneak Peek!

The color Scheme has not yet been settled, but you can expect this type of format.
The image you see is the level of completion at which 70% of the book is at this point.

Note that this format is one of two 'base' formats for the catalouge portion, and is used primarily in cases where there is a good photo available and alot of text is not required. When space for text is the priority, the photos are both side by side at the top, but much larger than in the original Casascius book. A third format is one which includes two coin listings on a single page. These formats do vary, but are based on the three main templates.

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A progress update has been added to the bottom of the top post.

Reservation numbers have been updated.

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Quote from: minerjones on November 29, 2015, 08:43:38 AM

Quote from: socal on November 28, 2015, 04:44:34 PM

Too late to be included?

I know I'm super late to the party but extenuating circumstances required my time and attention.

According to OP, there are still slots/books available.
Send a PM to elianite. They should be able to help out!! Cheesy

Thanks

I sent him a message

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Quote from: socal on November 28, 2015, 04:44:34 PM

Too late to be included?

I know I'm super late to the party but extenuating circumstances required my time and attention.

According to OP, there are still slots/books available.
Send a PM to elianite. They should be able to help out!! Cheesy

Thanks

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Too late to be included?

I know I'm super late to the party but extenuating circumstances required my time and attention.

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Reservation list updated!

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Cant wait to see the finished product, if I can scrounge up enough for a copy lol.

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This week i am finishing off the first 100 pages of coin & mint descriptions.
I am still taking orders!

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Update:
The book has been renamed to 'Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins'

Matthew and I feel that it more accurately describes the contents, unlike the previous term 'Catalogue'. Would love to hear your feedback!

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