Hard to argue with such intentions.
Well. So far you've managed to prove to us all that your knowledge about the world comes from Hollywood
I agree you would have a hard time arguing successfully about pretty much everything.
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Well. So far you've managed to prove to us all that your knowledge about the world comes from Hollywood
I agree you would have a hard time arguing successfully about pretty much everything.
Clearly Pattaya is highly contentious. I see no reason to hold an event there, when so many other fantastic locations exist, both in Thailand (amazing country!) and elsewhere.
A conference is about networking, development, fun, and PR. All parts are important - and Pattaya seems terrible for that forth criteria, and if it is dangerous and super awkward, then it'll be terrible for the third as well.
Bruce - let's rethink the location.
A conference is about networking, development, fun, and PR. All parts are important - and Pattaya seems terrible for that forth criteria, and if it is dangerous and super awkward, then it'll be terrible for the third as well.
Bruce - let's rethink the location.
Weighing the pros and cons, pataya should not be the location.
bitcoin rather needs more serious PR and needs go build credibility.
Credibility being the paramount factor with PR as its keystone. (Is this analogy correct? I just woke up!)
I will, of you start telling all of those that "sex and shady business" is NOT what most people first think when they hear Pattaya: http://www.google.com/search?q=pattaya+child+prostitution
See who's done first...
But I understand that you do not care about bitcoins reputation and only want to join Bruce on his holiday trip. Hard to argue with such intentions.
It looks like The_Duke is well armed to do some duke'in.
My brother, Bryan, not my other brother, Bruce (for real), is one of the top players in Mobster II (I think that's the name of the game). He likes to brag how he takes his toon to different cities to fight and earn points/dollars. I think of that when I read the little skirmishes that take place on some of these threads. I somewhat feel it's needed because NASCAR would be boring if there weren't any rivalries--or crashes. Therefore, in case you need to power-up (or what ever the correct gaming term is), The_Duke, I supply you with this: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Pattaya+sex+with+very+young+girls
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Clearly Pattaya is highly contentious. I see no reason to hold an event there, when so many other fantastic locations exist, both in Thailand (amazing country!) and elsewhere.
A conference is about networking, development, fun, and PR. All parts are important - and Pattaya seems terrible for that forth criteria, and if it is dangerous and super awkward, then it'll be terrible for the third as well.
Bruce - let's rethink the location.
A conference is about networking, development, fun, and PR. All parts are important - and Pattaya seems terrible for that forth criteria, and if it is dangerous and super awkward, then it'll be terrible for the third as well.
Bruce - let's rethink the location.
Weighing the pros and cons, pataya should not be the location.
bitcoin rather needs more serious PR and needs go build credibility.
I just have to say ...
I'm as gay as they come and I think this is a terrible choice for a Bitcoin conference.
I'm as gay as they come and I think this is a terrible choice for a Bitcoin conference.
Call me naïve, or just plain slow, for it was exactly two days ago I thought to myself if there's a direct correlation between a member on this board named Buttcoin and the why he chose that moniker. Reason being, I seem to always wear one of those eye thingies racehorses wear to keep them looking straight ahead. Sexual orientation of a member is the last thing on my mind, although, some may argue, sex is the first thing on my mind. I used to, and sometimes still do, fantasize about going to a foreign land and fucking the shit out of some young girl (remember, this is just a sexual fantasy, and pretty sure I wouldn't do it). That said, I strongly feel that Pattaya and Bitcoin is like Exxon oil and the Yellowstone River: Two great things, but don't mix them together, for if you do, the media will have a heyday with the slightest drop of trouble.
Thank you kindly, wolfaur, for your comment.
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I will, of you start telling all of those that "sex and shady business" is NOT what most people first think when they hear Pattaya: http://www.google.com/search?q=pattaya+child+prostitution
See who's done first...
But I understand that you do not care about bitcoins reputation and only want to join Bruce on his holiday trip. Hard to argue with such intentions.
I just have to say ...
I'm as gay as they come and I think this is a terrible choice for a Bitcoin conference.
I'm as gay as they come and I think this is a terrible choice for a Bitcoin conference.
I refuse to call that 50-or-so meet'ngreet with beers a conference
No one cares what you call what.
Just like no one cares how Bruce calls his "holiday with benefits" to a shady place in Thailand. So that figures.
I'm quite sure no one was surprised to see that, or felt that it mattered.
Its nice to see you are so liberal minded. I doubt the business community and average citizens, who we want to get interested, feel the same.
Btw, I think the poll needs a couple more options.
Boy Howdy!
and
Hell No!
I love how you think. Believe you, me, Colargol, I get a kick out of adding humor to my polls and posts, but please forgive me, this time, for not changing it because I feel too adamant about this subject. Next time, I WILL take you up on your suggestion(s).
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(PS: I love Amsterdam as a tourist. I've also been to Amsterdam for conferences. You know what? Those two things have nothing whatsoever to do with eachother)
Until you start hosting nerd-meetings (I refuse to call that 50-or-so meet'ngreet with beers a conference) in amsterdam, because you want to buy some weed there, claiming that it is all for the benefit of a greater good. Then you are abusing that greater good for your own personal gain.
+1
I refuse to call that 50-or-so meet'ngreet with beers a conference
No one cares what you call what.
I'm quite sure no one was surprised to see that, or felt that it mattered.
Its nice to see you are so liberal minded. I doubt the business community and average citizens, who we want to get interested, feel the same.
Btw, I think the poll needs a couple more options.
Boy Howdy!
and
Hell No!
(PS: I love Amsterdam as a tourist. I've also been to Amsterdam for conferences. You know what? Those two things have nothing whatsoever to do with eachother)
Until you start hosting nerd-meetings (I refuse to call that 50-or-so meet'ngreet with beers a conference) in amsterdam, because you want to buy some weed there, claiming that it is all for the benefit of a greater good. Then you are abusing that greater good for your own personal gain.
I won't be going to any of them
I'm quite sure no one was surprised to see that, or felt that it mattered.
(PS: I love Amsterdam as a tourist. I've also been to Amsterdam for conferences. You know what? Those two things have nothing whatsoever to do with eachother)
The simple fact that Bruce
... seems to know a lot more about the world than most ignorant people posting their own personal view of places they seem to know very little about?
Yes, indeed.
http://www.google.com/search?q=pattaya+conferences
I live in Thailand for about 4 years now, I would not choose Pattaya as a place to live (I stay on a remote island most of the time), but when I need to be in Bangkok for some reason - I always stay in Pattaya and travel to Bangkok from there. Bangkok is big, crowded, traffic jams, no air to breathe. Pattaya is a city for foreigners build on a sea side - I would not go swim in that water but anyway the air is fresh from the sea breeze, it's full with hotels and guesthouses for any budget, a lot of good and inexpensive restaurants ran by expats - you can eat pizza made by Italian chief, have some in house brewed beer in a German place and so on, including authentic Russian pelmeni. Usually I'm coming there with my girlfriend but nightlife is fun anyway, unique atmosphere of a never ending party.
Sure there are annoyances, mainly in Walking Street at night, but who cares? If you do not want ladyboys attention, children asking for money in imaginative ways, 'ping pong show' invitation popups before your face, loud noises and so on - just do not go to walking street from about 20:00 to 3:00.
Yes form dusk to dawn Pattaya is filled with prostitutes in lady bars of a different kinds. It's fine with me, some of those places are nice for an evening beer while watching woman live or sports channel on tv.
Yes there are a lot of ladyboys. Yes it's possible to get robbed or scammed, and sure tourist traps are set. Yet I consider Pattaya safe place for those who use common sense.
Alternative locations in SEA? In Thailand, Phuket on the south and Chang Mai on the north both have their own different charms, but it's one more flight from Thailand's main airport, while Pattaya is 2 hours by taxi or bus. In other countries - Hong Kong, a major financial center and still somewhat offshore zone (if anybody is interested - it should be another topic), it's a very interesting and alive city. But it will be i guess about 5 times more expensive than Pattaya for everybody, as living and office space is very expensive there. Singapore is boring, too much rules (like it's illegal to import and chew bubblegum, just as an example), warning sings like 'do not seat here as you may fall' and a likes are everywhere, it's a nanny state at the extreme - not a proper place for bitcoin event IMO. Macau could be a good choice - asian Las Vegas with nice old Portugese architecture, 2 hours by ferry from Hong Kong.
Sure there are annoyances, mainly in Walking Street at night, but who cares? If you do not want ladyboys attention, children asking for money in imaginative ways, 'ping pong show' invitation popups before your face, loud noises and so on - just do not go to walking street from about 20:00 to 3:00.
Yes form dusk to dawn Pattaya is filled with prostitutes in lady bars of a different kinds. It's fine with me, some of those places are nice for an evening beer while watching woman live or sports channel on tv.
Yes there are a lot of ladyboys. Yes it's possible to get robbed or scammed, and sure tourist traps are set. Yet I consider Pattaya safe place for those who use common sense.
Alternative locations in SEA? In Thailand, Phuket on the south and Chang Mai on the north both have their own different charms, but it's one more flight from Thailand's main airport, while Pattaya is 2 hours by taxi or bus. In other countries - Hong Kong, a major financial center and still somewhat offshore zone (if anybody is interested - it should be another topic), it's a very interesting and alive city. But it will be i guess about 5 times more expensive than Pattaya for everybody, as living and office space is very expensive there. Singapore is boring, too much rules (like it's illegal to import and chew bubblegum, just as an example), warning sings like 'do not seat here as you may fall' and a likes are everywhere, it's a nanny state at the extreme - not a proper place for bitcoin event IMO. Macau could be a good choice - asian Las Vegas with nice old Portugese architecture, 2 hours by ferry from Hong Kong.
The simple fact that Bruce
1. Can't see just how bad this idea really is.
2. Has not responded to the clear problem it presents from a PR perspective
3. Has not responded to the problem in a timely fashion.
3. Has not canceled it outright.
Make it all the more clear to me, he needs to take a break, and step back from Bitcoin for a few weeks. Really he must be either incompetent, or or just plan exhausted (giving him the benefit of the doubt).
I think the simple Poll here says it all-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-opinion-of-bitcoin-39582
1. Can't see just how bad this idea really is.
2. Has not responded to the clear problem it presents from a PR perspective
3. Has not responded to the problem in a timely fashion.
3. Has not canceled it outright.
Make it all the more clear to me, he needs to take a break, and step back from Bitcoin for a few weeks. Really he must be either incompetent, or or just plan exhausted (giving him the benefit of the doubt).
I think the simple Poll here says it all-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-opinion-of-bitcoin-39582
Despite it's beauty, I'm not convinced that Thailand in general is good choice - but I agree that Pattaya is an appalling one.
The only good I can see in it is it'll demonstrate what a dumb idea it is using the Thai Baht symbol ฿ for Bitcoin.
I also don't understand the point of multiple conferences in one year. It dilutes any power that a singular global bitcoin conference might have had.
If the announcement had been instead, something like "2012 Bitcoin Conference to be in Hong Kong" (or some other major financial hub.. London,Singapore,Tokyo etc)
this would have been more impressive.
Anyway.. nothing to stop some other group of Bitcoiners forming a more focused Conference arrangement to compete with the way OnlyOneTV does things.
That too is 'dilution'.. but hopefully at some point some annual conference can become known as *the* conference.
Despite what many in the community would like - this doesn't appear to be OnlyOneTV's vision - and if they want to ignore the community's ideas, that's up to them really.
Bruce and co. still do a good job of providing some focus and light on Bitcoin issues - so if people don't like the specifics.. they'll just have to come up with an alternative.
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With so many Bitcoin events now planned for next year I think it's inevitable that some will turn out to be mostly about hanging out with other Bitcoiners in fun locations and others will be more agenda driven. It will be interesting to see what kind of programmes the organisers are able to put together for each event as potential speakers, sponsors, merchants, etc will make their own choices about which events are likely to hold the most value for them.
I agree, but that doesn't mean we can't have both. There's so many other rewarding places the conference can be held in Thailand. Pattaya is going to blazing hot, full of lady-boys, gay Russians and child-sex tourism. If you're going to pick a country, why not listen to people who've spent a lot of time there for recommendations?
Chiang Mai is cheaper, safer, easier to get to, cool at night, people are friendlier and the less-social folks will have more to do than fighting off lady-boys hitting on them in the streets everywhere they go. It's really win-win for everyone (unless you're into the child sex thing).
Despite it's beauty, I'm not convinced that Thailand in general is good choice - but I agree that Pattaya is an appalling one.
I want to lock this thread. And I will lock this thread. On the day Bruce takes Pattaya off the table. On the day he changes it to Bangkok, or any other city, in Thailand.
Love your show, Bruce. Love all you're doing, and done, for Bitcoin. But Pattaya is a mistake. Please reconsider.
Thank you kingly, Bruce.
Sincerely, Bruno
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