Topic: Pattaya - page 9. (Read 34047 times)

Would you consider using a different terminology then?  e.g strictly refer to this as the bitcoin world 'expo' ?

I really think you've 'diluted' the conference idea by having so many locations.. but different terminology might help raise the status of the main one.

Exactly that.

This thread, like most of the threads in this forum, has become overrun by 98% 13-year-old children who are making a concerted trolling attack on the Bitcoin Forums.   Don't fall for it.   That's all they are.... just children trolling for jollies.   Like kids playing telephone pranks.

It is very sad that it is destroying the Bitcoin Community's central point of communication.    Oh for the "old days" when adults discussed topics relevant to bitcoin... with other adults... here in these forums.

Sadly, a certain percentage of real people will come here and read these posts and believe that they are posted by other real people...  And they will begin to believe that there is some percentage of people who believe a certain way...   When, in fact, the entire thread.... and the entire forum... is being "social engineered" by a bunch of 13-year-old kids.

For anyone's information, Thailand is extremely strict about child abuse.   Mess around with anyone under 18 and you are SURE to find yourself in a Thai prison for life.    In New York City ( the states of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut ), the legal age of consent is 17.   In Thailand, the age is 18.    And EVERYONE checks... in three ways.    So if anyone is thinking about going to Thailand for child-sex....  You'd better think again!     It's not going to happen there without severe consequences.

Also, Be Warned:  Thailand is extremely harsh on illegal drugs.   The smallest amount of an illegal substance brought into Thailand WILL result in the death penalty.   Make no mistake about it.

If you are looking for these things, Thailand is NOT the place for you.

Don't be misled by the false information being posted by 13-year-old kids trolling for laughs here.

Also, as we already announced.....   We are working on Bitcoin Conferences in ALL of the following cities: 

• Dubai
• Pattaya
• Sydney
• San Jose
• Mumbai
• Warsaw
• Moscow
• Seoul
• Rio de Janeiro
• New York City
• Shenzhen
• London

I believe that "The Big Conference" will be the one held in New York City each year.

Obviously, everyone can pick and choose which cities they would like to attend.  If you don't care for one of the cities on the list, please do not attend that one.

On another topic, the current state of this Forum has made it almost useless.... with the children who are all about vandalizing the forum with viscous comments and attacking everyone.   I am considering starting my own Forum --- separate from this one --- for adults only.   I don't really have time to moderate a Forum, but I will hire someone to do so if I need to.   We need a Forum for open adult discussion.

If that was true (and it's also a straw man btw), can you point me to where those organizations that have had conferences in Pattaya has had a sex tourist destination image attached to their reputation?

I'll start by claiming you won't be able to.



edit: Ah, I did remember correctly. You were indeed one of the persons who claimed Amsterdam was a bad choice due to it "being known for weed".


That's what ignorance looks like.

Every major city has conference center or centers and Pattaya having one or more is hardly surprising. It is a straw man argument.
Since Pattaya has conference centers it must be a good choice for a convention, thus my point has been made. It clearly ignores
that the debate is about the location being a sex tourist destination with a world wide reputation and attaching bitcoin's image to it.
For one person to do that without considering the possible repercussions was short sighted.

As for Amsterdam, by itself it is a pretty darn good choice, but then this thread is not about Amsterdam being an image problem for
Bitcoin.

"Maybe" is not a good argument. Why should your "maybe" be of significance?

Hey look, in 2009 that same conference center had an expo called "MONEY EXPO Pattaya 2009" - by Thailand's first bank. Must be a really bad place for conferences, especially about money.

No, I'm saying they're ignorant because they claim Amsterdam is only known for drugs & sex, Pattaya is only known for child prostitution, New York is only known for drug related gang wars, San Francisco is only known as a great place to meet friendly bums, Moscow is only known as the place where former KGB agents assassinate journalists etc.

Feel free to answer the question I wrote to you earlier:

So basically what you are saying is that people are ignorant if they are worried a bitcoin conference in a world wide known
sexual tourist destination might be a bad idea?

It isn't and I have no interest whatsoever in visiting Pattaya. I just dislike ignorance, and "many people are ignorant" is not a good argument

(I will go to the conference in Amsterdam though, since I go to conferences there regularly anyway)

Yes I have been following all these threads.

Are these the only people we want to appeal to? Have you not seen all the posts by people who feel it is a very bad idea... does it matter they might not have a clear idea on what the place is really like? Are you more interested in getting people interested in Pattaya or in promoting Bitcoin?

Please tell us dexfor. Why is a Pattaya Bitcoin conference so important to you?

I think we know why Bruce Wagner wants a conference there, but why do you seem so adamant a Bitcoin conference takes place in that particular location?

All this argument about Pattaya & Amsterdam...    my question is why has the concept of an annual bitcoin conference been fragmented like this anyway???

I'd really like to hear Bruce's reasoning on this. I think a single world bitcoin expo/conference would have much more impact in terms of PR opportunities as well as efficiency for Bitcoin startups looking to spruik their offerings.

Can you find the other posts from people who live in Thailand and who say it's no major issue and it's a good place due to the communications anyway yourself?


All places can be "remotely" bad choices. When people started to object it was Amsterdam. "It's all just sex and drugs!!!11". To a European, that's simply a joke. The same people continuing to object to Pattaya doesn't make the argument stronger.

If Pattaya is such an obviously bad place for a conference, why is one of Thailand's biggest and most modern conference centres there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattaya_Exhibition_and_Convention_Hall

It seems to me you are posting just to get a reaction and not even considering how Pattaya could possibly, even just remotely,
be a poor choice for a Bitcoin Conference. How anyone cannot see that is beyond me.. and quite possibly be acting like a troll.

Oh Come on. Just go up to this post by worldly, to take just one example. This person hasn't just done some search on "conferences in Pattaya" but has actually been there.



This is the type of post that only a right wing fundie could make?
You don't mind seeing Bitcoin being tied to something like this in the mind of average people who know little about Bitcoin?
Do you want to promote Bitcoin?
It seems you are being unreasonable and my last question is:
Are you not the one being a troll here?

Posting just to get reactions, of course. The definition of trolling goes back decades.

As far as I see it, besides belonging to the US far religious right there's no reason for anyone to have any opinions on one out of several places for a conference. If you personally don't like the place (I don't) - then don't go.

I would put 'Inclusivity' way up there as well. That was kinda the point I was trying to make by suggesting those other options for the poll. ( Its okay you don't add them )

I was trying to show how something like this is very polarizing and not something we probably want linked with Bitcoin in the minds of people hearing about it for the first time. Like I may have said before we probably want to be welcoming to 'everybody' and not make it seem like some exclusive club. We should avoid things like elitism and making it seem we are appealing only to this or that fringe group; special interest; sub-culture etc.

Oh wait... I just had a great idea! Lets have our next Bitcoin conference at the Vatican and tie it in with a Pro Choice rally! ( I've always wanted to go to that area for vacation and I hear the Pope will also make an announcement that will rock the Bitcoin world!!! )     

There is a great expression I have heard in reference to organizational cohesion: "Whatever is not mutual is released."

There are a lot of people here who do not want to see a conference in Pattaya, at least one that may be seen as anything close to an 'official' conference. The question I ask of those who are in favour of it is: Would it be a terribly big deal if there was 'not' a Bitcoin conference in Pattaya?  If your answer is no then lets drop it and move on.  And if you turn that around and ask me, and these others, if it would be a terribly big deal if we did have a Bitcoin conference in Pattaya then I would suggest you haven't been listening to our concerns that have been expressed many times in these threads.

And Dexfor expressing these concerns, even if the person's comments and style of writing rubs you the wrong way, is 'not' trolling. Or would you put me in that category as well? And if so, what is your definition of "trolling"?  "Someone saying something that I disagree with"?

How about we just let this Pattaya idea go? 
 

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.484698

(As to the coordinated posts by The Duke, "Matthew" etc above, sorry guys, well known trolls posting in support of well known trolls just makes what you write all the more ignorable)

I've spent plenty of time in Thailand, have visited Pattaya.

No matter how many write ups you read, it will shock even the hardest core sex fiend into how much of a sex tourist place this is.

Sex tourism exists all over Thailand, Pattaya attracts the worst of them.

Its simply not known for anything else and Im pretty sure if one had been to Pattaya they would be saying that there are better places to hold a bitcoin conference.

Hey, the fact that I am right doesn't mean I can't still be a jackass at the same time!

Its quite interesting to see that I as a bitcoin critic am trying to actually help bitcoin forward by trying to prevent its image from being even further washed down the drain, while some supposed bitcoin enthusiasts seem all to eager to add child abuse to the list of bad associations with bitcoin.

Oh well, what do I care. Have fun on the kiddycruise! This time it would actually be better if Bruces hyping about media attention completely misses the boat (pun intended). God forbid the media catch on to a bitcoin meeting in a sex resort :')

Is this also in reference to his name choice--The_Duke--and that Hollywood is often referred to as Babylon?

I'm not picking sides in this, defxor, nor trying to add fuel to both of you. My posts are just my obscure thoughts. That said, I'll now stay on the sidelines and only read.

(image of The Duke not available)

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