Topic: Pattaya - page 3. (Read 34066 times)

Bruce being gay or his choice of sexual partner is not at issue here whatsoever. What is at issue is that he's a disgusting moron who is leading Bitcoin into the abyss by using it to further his sexual proclivities under the guise of holding "conferences" that are nothing more than a world tour of his favorite sex houses. And his continued and hard-headed insistence that Pattaya doesn't have a child sex problem and that he won't entertain any notions of NOT having it there despite the uproar in the community is very disturbing.

All of the other accusations are people merely putting two and two together. Whether they are correct remains to be seen, as there is no hard evidence.

You think the situation would be any better if he were straight?

What if I were specifically referring to virgin girls... virgin girls in the child sex capitol of the world? What if I could easily get cheap adult prostitutes in literally any other city in Thailand, but I insisted on the child sex capitol of the world for my business conference and refused to entertain any other suggestions? Then I freaked out and ran away when people started questioning my motives. And then started frantically deleting my Internet history when curious people started digging up info on the subject.

It's not conclusive proof, but holy shit it looks bad. Either this is the way it is and Bruce is a creep, or it's a big misunderstanding and Bruce merely REALLY REALLY looks like a creep. Not to mention his downright sickening views on rape. He managed to be thoroughly offensive to both genders with that post.  Any way you slice it, it looks really bad for Bitcoins.

Everyone has known Bruce was gay forever. Nobody gave a shit. This isn't about Bruce being gay. It's about Bruce being a really shitty person.

Then don't go.  But leave it at that.

And I don't care if you or Bruce are gay. But the point's been made quite well that Bruce's choice of locations seems designed to satisfy his prurient interests as much as to promote bitcoin. I don't want him to do this.

It seems that they gay people http://www.boyztown-pattaya.com/ call their men "boys" the same way "we" (I assume that you are not gay, which could be totally wrong) call our women "girl". But if you think calling a man "boy" is some evidence, one can only hope that the next time you call your favorite milf "girl" some swat team will jump through the window and arrests you for being a "pedo".

Speak for yourself.

I'm gay. I don't condemn him for being gay. I don't condemn anyone else for being straight. Or gay. Or bi.

I also don't condemn him for anything he hasn't been proven to have done.

If you think you're going to be purging Bitcoin of gay users, though, think again. Every single friend I have gotten into Bitcoin is as homosexual as I am. Well, unless you count the one who's bisexual.

I think this thread is an important and healthy. Bruce's salacious, gay lifestyle spills onto these pages like a smelly, heap of entrails, and we are revolted. We condemn the acts and in so doing we distance ourselves from the man and thus purge our system from something unhealthy.

It's certainly better that these facts emerge here instead of a banker rag.

Rape apologist. Big strike against Bruce.
Endorsed MyBitcoin and continued doing so even after problems were evident. Big strike against Bruce.
Lost at least 25,000 bitcoins that were either "his" or "under his control", it's hard to tell, he's changed the story to suit the question. Two big strikes against Bruce.
Bashed the forum in general when people weren't agreeing with him and didn't want what he wanted. Small strike against Bruce. Because to be completely fair, many of the people disagreeing weren't being above board, and there was plenty of probable slander being tossed at that point.
Has a show that's slim on fact and heavy on hype. Up Up Up! I'm hoping my bitcoins go up up up, sure. But we have to have some realistic expectations, and giving unrealistic expectations to viewers is not doing the currency a good service. Big strike against Bruce.
Doesn't know how a volume control works. Big strike against Bruce. (Seriously, were you able to understand any one complete sentence in the show where he interviewed MagicalTux after the Mt.Gox hack? I don't mean the phone line, I mean Bruce himself...)
Tries to make himself the most visible production but couldn't do it with the camera's demo mode off. What in the fuck?

There's no positive proof thus far, it's just ambiguous writing and his insistence on Pattaya as the location, with people putting 2 and 2 together on their own. I try not to throw around the term "pedo", because it's a label that sticks really badly.

The pedo thing isn't the only accusation though, and the others have damning evidence, but you apparently don't see anything wrong with being a rape apologist either so I don't expect you to see that.

agreed.  Leave BitCon to OnlyOneTV and Pattaya and let's all start up some regional meet-ups.  BitConf Southwest in Austin TX would be nice, maybe during SXSW when lots of people and media are in Austin from out of town anyway

This is sick shit.

It's not that great at archiving the obscure and shady dark recesses of the internet, unfortunately. The forum the original post that started this was posted on is barely archived at all.

Could probably also check the Wayback machine.

If you go back through the Bitcoin thread on Something Awful, there are links to cached versions and screen captures.

I noticed the same. In response to the "smear and character blahblah" thread I wanted to post some of that "hard evidence" that the topicstarter couldn't find, only to see that some of the stuff that was linked to no longer exists.

Also, all the topics on this forum pointing to the material have been deleted.

Hurry, though - he's deleting everything! Nothing suspicious at all about that, of course...

In the interest of avoiding future drama:

Let the examples here of Bruce Wagner and Matthew N. Wright be lessons to everyone else who wants to step up as a public face in the Bitcoin community.

Is there dirt out there on you?  It'll be found, and you'll quickly become a liability to the Bitcoin community.  I don't necessarily mean anything incriminating (not a lawyer, not sure what these f'd up statements by Bruce Wagner legally constitute), just something that would prevent you from, say, winning an election among the young to middle aged westerner demographic.

Do you speak impulsively and have a hard time knowing when to just STFU?  Well then you're going to ruin your own reputation eventually, and render yourself a liability to the Bitcoin community.  Everybody has disagreeable traits/values/opinions - clearly some more than others - and it's key for public figures to be able to recognize and share only those that are relevant and necessary to be shared publicly.  And when they have to, lie about those they hold that are very unpopular.  Be concise and to the point when you have to speak.  Less is more.

The public eye is not kind or forgiving.  Keep that in mind.  If you don't think you're capable of withstanding its scrutiny, then find some other niche where you can be of help, and avoid doing damage.

I can think of many reasons. Stupidity. Like-mindedness. Thinking Bruce is cute. Being drunk. Being on oxycodone. Being drunk while on oxycodone. Copious amounts of crack. Severe brain damage.

Why is this thread in Bitcoin discussion? This drama is starting to get annoying.