Topic: PayPal for BTC Exchanger - page 5. (Read 8964 times)

dareq- it's like this old sport... when something sounds too good to be true, it is. Pure and simple. There is no magic method to insure that either party is not getting scammed when PP is involved, because the PP system itself is nothing but a massive scam, with fees that are 3X what the going rate is for simple clearance of funds already held on account.

And with all due respect- you don't have a warehouse full of magic beans that allow you to create bitcoins out of nothing, so you either mine or buy, just like everyone else, and that means your model doesn't work economically. Anyone asking for your methodology is looking to be able to suss your numbers to see where the flaw is, because, I assure you, there is a flaw. Nobody goes into the business of losing money as a public service out of the goodness of their hearts. To think that anyone would believe otherwise is foolish at best.

And please be honest with yourself about this community- you must have spent some time lurking and studying who is here, right? Did you think that this was a group of willing sheep willing to believe fairy tales? Hardly. If you are being honest about trying to do this exchange first through Tor and Silk Road, then you are familiar with healthy skepticism. You should not be surprised to find the same here. This community is extremely conversant in economics, tech, and scammish ways, an no amount of righteous indignation or churlish threats will cower anyone into accepting ridiculous claims.

If you find a taker for your offer, and I highly suspect you won't, then one of you will be a victim within days. That's a lock as a bet. You have offers on the table- look at psy- $100 USDPP for 24 btc. Take it.

Hmmm...

I dunno what you are up to, but it smells.

I will trade PPUSD 100 for BTC 24. You send bitcoins first. You pay the fees.

Wow..


And sorry for the spam OP, PM me your answer..

Are you willing to send first, at least, to members with good rep..?


I despise scammers and trolls alike..

You will have a chance to see how it goes, as soon as I get my first customer which shouldnt take very long considering that my service is dream for scammers right?

Well in that case I wouldnt,but doubtfully that professional scammers will risk their time for amounts like this,and I will not accept from nobody 10.000$ amount, highest I will accept is 800$-1000$ each time to prevent myself from high lost. but that won't happen anyway so, we'll see who was right

There is a way of preventing myself from being scammed, maybe not in 100% but pretty sure I can eliminate 90% of scammers and these 90% are idiot ones. rest 10% are professional scammers and I have suprise ready for them when they finally scam me because yes I cant prevent getting scammed by professionals and nobody else could. but I highly doubt that anyone like that will contact me in nearest future so, you can only wish me bona fortuna

I thought you were joking and after all you'd want to make real transaction,but if you really wanted to scam me then its attempted scamming and you should be banned right away,so either decide = you were irony or you really wanted to do something like this.

And if you really think I'd take 10.000$ usd from you, then you must be crazy my friend

Dude, your getting to emotional here. Did you not see what I wrote earlier?


You sent me this PM, and I will respond here:


Again, your taking this way to personally. Take a breather, have a cigarette and come back when you want to chat.

Can you send first, considering we have good reputations over here and been around for long time, with numerous successful trades?

Everything I wanted to say about my exchange was already said I think. but I will repeat once more.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE MY SERVICE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO,BUT DON'T CALL ME SCAMMER/FISHY IF I HAVENT SCAMMED ANYBODY NOR YOU HAVE ANY VALID ARGUMENTS BEYOND THAT (gucci argument made my day btw)

Not answering any more questions in this topic,if you have SERIOUS question about me then I am free to answer it on PM

This is not street,and I am not selling Gucci, you cant get your money back from guy who sells you gucci,and here you can get your money back so your argument is very invalid.

You can try to understand how my profit works,but I am not gonna tell you how it does,you can figure it out by yourselves,use brain and its pretty much clear.

"Now he is threatening, thats another sign of a scammer btw.

dareq you take us for fools, this isnt our first rodeo my friend."

You are again not understanding what I am saying,don't you?

I am threating a scammer because there are plenty of those and I am aware of that,if someone scams me then he can be sure that I am not the one who lost money. that's all

Please don't take this personally, we vet every new seller on this forum. Unfortunately this forum has seen its fair share of scams and its our responsibility to protect our fellow bitcoiners.  


That logic makes no sense. You can walk into any store and understand how the store makes a profit. Its the essence of a market economy.

What your doing is basically loosing money. If you saw a guy selling real Gucci handbags on the street, wouldnt you first assume its stolen?

If you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.



Now he is threatening, thats another sign of a scammer btw.

dareq you take us for fools, this isnt our first rodeo my friend.

And we go to point where I am securing myself from being scammed, and even if I do get scammed,then you will regret it. That's all I am going to say.

Still waiting for more offers,keep coming!

I was doing that service in my local range,i tried to do it "underground" on TOR forums but too many scammers there and people trying to use stolen paypal,that's why I am gonna try to do this service here and see if I can get this going by long term.

Seriously guys,if you don't want to use my service, just don't. I will not cry,many interest people and I will surely have a first transaction going tommorow, pretty sure.

I am trying to defend myself because I dont want to get to scam someone and get lost, im trying to do this by long term and you guys are not helping me at all with this.

I am not gonna tell you about my profit because that's not how things are done my friend, you go to store and ask "how you making profit,how much,where do you get your stuff,can i get contact list" because if I say one thing then people will want more and finally start realising how I'm working and can do it by themselves. I want to avoid this.

If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me, dont need to spam my thread,people want to make transactions,not read your useless questions.

Buying/selling makes no difference, using a stolen account can benefit both ways.

He has Bitcoins and needs to get cash for them, he needs 2-3 stolen/hacked paypal accounts to launder it.

I've seen this dozens of times. Its probably why he gets so defensive when we ask him about his profit / why.

For example, we had a someone email us at BitInstant the other day:


The data is just overwhelming lol

run away with money,yea right,buy stuff on ebay,if it was that easy people would be making millions already and be uncatchable - you forgot one thing - paypal does something called negative balance and reverve all payments if they're fishy or if they get chargebacked,so i'm left with nothing or negative balance which will be chased by debt collectors obviously.

Laundering dirty bitcoins? That's new thing to me,like there wasnt bitcoin launders where you can put your bitcoins and launder it thousand times for 5% fee and get clear bitcoins and dont do what I do.

Because if something is too easy for you to understand then there must be a snag right? Well, there isnt any snag,just pure service which I want to provide, how hard is that to understand?

already did.