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These days I've grown to categorize everyone as the same when it comes to loaning people money for whatsoever reasons and I've only come into the conclusion never to loan someone else an amount of money that I cannot afford to lose forever but rather to loan out funds that I can instead afford to let go when I have to.

This may be peculiar to my own environment or society but many people here do not know how to refund borrowed funds regardless of their relationship with you and they have to make you go into hell before you get a repayment or refund of your money from them. Hence, my decision not to allow anyone kill my budgets or finances.
I see that you are on the right side of this due to the safety you plan to achieve by giving out only a few amount of money that you'll be able to lose. Whenever handing out such loans erupts giving out is fine but going for the money would be quite very stressful. Due to the purpose of the player who took the loan. Gambling is not certain, that is going to be enough reason why handing out an amount enough to cause you sleepless night is not advisable. I don't think it's peculiar only to your society, most people still find it difficult to pay back even when they have the money. Not to talk of gamblers. It has to be a psychological effect, happens to lots of people.
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It was hard to decline if some of our relatives wanted to borrow money but for the purpose of using it to gamble, I should have. Whatever they feel doesn't matter because what we are trying to do is to help them either in the way of not making them fall into huge debt which usually happens in most gamblers when losing control. What we did was help them realize that gambling is not the stuff that we have to spend a lot and we need to commit debts just for the sake of our gambling habits.
I would lend money if it is for investment and for important stuff but for gambling, I should decline.
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
Loan and relatives doesn't go together, as in most times relatives do grow a feeling of entitlement about money borrowed to them by their brother or a sister. It's an awful experience I have had more than twice  and you just can't go the extra miles just to get your money back when you remember he or she is a relative unlike if it's was to be an stranger on the grounds of business. 

These days I've grown to categorize everyone as the same when it comes to loaning people money for whatsoever reasons and I've only come into the conclusion never to loan someone else an amount of money that I cannot afford to lose forever but rather to loan out funds that I can instead afford to let go when I have to.

This may be peculiar to my own environment or society but many people here do not know how to refund borrowed funds regardless of their relationship with you and they have to make you go into hell before you get a repayment or refund of your money from them. Hence, my decision not to allow anyone kill my budgets or finances.

I can agree with your stand here. These days, if someone borrows you money, most of the time, you won't see it coming back as per arrangement. Very rare that you will see a person who will respect your agreement and will pay on time as promised. There's nothing wrong if you will say no to people. Because if it will ruin your budget and you will be the one suffering from it, then, better be straightforward rather than say yes, but you will suffer afterwards.
Specially on the moment that you would really be letting your friend or know someone borrowed up some money to you on which promising specific dates something like this and that but ended up on being forgotten.
This is why whenever someone who do approach me asking money or borrowing for whatever reason they do have, then i do really simply ignore and reject them out not unless if its really that emergency
and i could really see it real then i would be having those considerations but if not then i would just simply that ignore or would be telling that i dont have money. I do have enough bad experiences about those
promises which are really that been tons had been broken and ended up on losing tons of money because of those borrowing but ending up on not getting repaid.

Although there are really those people who are mindful about paying up their obligations but majority of them are really that having that amnesia.  Grin
On the moment that you do know that someone borrows just to gamble then it would be common sense that you wont really be letting them borrow.
-1% chance that you would be paid up back. hehehe
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I can agree with your stand here. These days, if someone borrows you money, most of the time, you won't see it coming back as per arrangement. Very rare that you will see a person who will respect your agreement and will pay on time as promised. There's nothing wrong if you will say no to people. Because if it will ruin your budget and you will be the one suffering from it, then, better be straightforward rather than say yes, but you will suffer afterwards.
This is why its better to be more private and tell the public that you’re broke so no one will attempt to borrow some money from you, though the delay of payment can be situational but still asking for a money for betting purposes are not ok and if you let them borrow, it looks like you are tolerating them as well so better so say No and stay focus on your own finances and peace of mind.
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I don't know where people get the amount of money they think I have, they must think I look like a bank...
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As I experienced it too, because I looked like I had a lot of money and was likened to a walking bank.
There are many people in my neighborhood who are not even familiar at first suddenly become familiar because they want to borrow money,
whether the purpose of borrowing for their basic needs or for gambling etc. (Slot gambling is quite popular in my place).

I never respond to those who insist on borrowing money because I know that in the end I will bear the risk of collecting the money back,
but it will take a very long time to pay off.

Someone who only borrows for gambling purposes only, I really won't respond because they will just get into gambling and waste the money.
It is no longer entertainment, but an addiction to keep playing.

There are many bad examples that occur when the slot games,
they do suffer a lot of losses to make them sell their valuables. It was sad to know that fact.
Sometimes they people seems you may not be the way you are, I know very well that many people always think that people that dressed well and also appear decent is rich, but the thing is that don't keep your mouth short when you know that you are not up to such rank people in your surroundings is giving you, the aspects of borrowing, you need to have a limitation of what you do, and secondly borrowing money to participate in gambling has advantages and disadvantages, its neither you gamble with you have than bringing debt to yourself when you have known that gambling have no assurance of wining.
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
Loan and relatives doesn't go together, as in most times relatives do grow a feeling of entitlement about money borrowed to them by their brother or a sister. It's an awful experience I have had more than twice  and you just can't go the extra miles just to get your money back when you remember he or she is a relative unlike if it's was to be an stranger on the grounds of business. 

These days I've grown to categorize everyone as the same when it comes to loaning people money for whatsoever reasons and I've only come into the conclusion never to loan someone else an amount of money that I cannot afford to lose forever but rather to loan out funds that I can instead afford to let go when I have to.

This may be peculiar to my own environment or society but many people here do not know how to refund borrowed funds regardless of their relationship with you and they have to make you go into hell before you get a repayment or refund of your money from them. Hence, my decision not to allow anyone kill my budgets or finances.

I can agree with your stand here. These days, if someone borrows you money, most of the time, you won't see it coming back as per arrangement. Very rare that you will see a person who will respect your agreement and will pay on time as promised. There's nothing wrong if you will say no to people. Because if it will ruin your budget and you will be the one suffering from it, then, better be straightforward rather than say yes, but you will suffer afterwards.
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
Loan and relatives doesn't go together, as in most times relatives do grow a feeling of entitlement about money borrowed to them by their brother or a sister. It's an awful experience I have had more than twice  and you just can't go the extra miles just to get your money back when you remember he or she is a relative unlike if it's was to be an stranger on the grounds of business. 

These days I've grown to categorize everyone as the same when it comes to loaning people money for whatsoever reasons and I've only come into the conclusion never to loan someone else an amount of money that I cannot afford to lose forever but rather to loan out funds that I can instead afford to let go when I have to.

This may be peculiar to my own environment or society but many people here do not know how to refund borrowed funds regardless of their relationship with you and they have to make you go into hell before you get a repayment or refund of your money from them. Hence, my decision not to allow anyone kill my budgets or finances.
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
Loan and relatives doesn't go together, as in most times relatives do grow a feeling of entitlement about money borrowed to them by their brother or a sister. It's an awful experience I have had more than twice  and you just can't go the extra miles just to get your money back when you remember he or she is a relative unlike if it's was to be an stranger on the grounds of business.

No matter what a relative or a close friend is demanding you lend money to him for, be it bet (which I don't support) or a project best you should do is support them with whatever part of an amount you know is in your capacity to without having to think you're lending it out to avoid have problems due to how some family members and close friends do have this archaic psychology about returning money they borrowed from a kinsman differently from when it is a stranger.

Also, all of these usually occur when an individual seem to be too benevolent.  if you can build the habit of saying No to people's demand, you be saving yourself from many unnecessary demands that'll stress you, soon as they know you will refuse their request they won't bother you anymore often.


Borrowing a gambler money to use to go and gamble, you're only causing more harm than good to that person's life. It's ain't a show of love because it's mainly gamble addicts that borrow money to gamble.

 
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I don't know where people get the amount of money they think I have, they must think I look like a bank...
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As I experienced it too, because I looked like I had a lot of money and was likened to a walking bank.
There are many people in my neighborhood who are not even familiar at first suddenly become familiar because they want to borrow money,
whether the purpose of borrowing for their basic needs or for gambling etc. (Slot gambling is quite popular in my place).

I never respond to those who insist on borrowing money because I know that in the end I will bear the risk of collecting the money back,
but it will take a very long time to pay off.

Someone who only borrows for gambling purposes only, I really won't respond because they will just get into gambling and waste the money.
It is no longer entertainment, but an addiction to keep playing.

There are many bad examples that occur when the slot games,
they do suffer a lot of losses to make them sell their valuables. It was sad to know that fact.
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It has become increasingly common for friends and not-so-close "friends" to come and ask me to borrow money. I don't usually ask for the purpose, but some ask me because of betting at online houses.

The last time I lent money to a colleague, who I hadn't had much contact with other than at work for a short period, it was with great difficulty that I got the money back.

I don't know where people get the amount of money they think I have, they must think I look like a bank...

Who likes having to borrow money? Unless you are a loan shark and lend with collateral where the risk is almost zero, why lend money where you end up with a loss? 'cause in addition to no one paying you with interest, most never pay you on time, at least you will get your money back after repeated charges.

Some people even go so far as to ask me to borrow money for what? to bet!! What a joke. I answer briefly and bluntly that I don't have the money to lend for these purposes!

And the worst thing is that they ask me for small amounts, like $2, 5, 10$... I think that if the person doesn't have that money now, the chances of them getting that money to pay you are low. If the person is in need, it's easier for them to confess right away to see what I can do, because I'm not a bad person.

Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?

And when they are female friends, do you lend them?

I believe the problems comes from allowing your friends to know you have the money in the first place, you know. if they assumed they could now count on you having that money, then they would not ask you for it in the first place.
My advice to you would be as the next person comes to you and asks you to for a lending, do not ask for what the money is for, since you are implying to have the money and be willing to lend it if the uase for it is reasonable.
Instead asking for the purpose of the loan, so day you don't have money outright, not matter how minuscule those quantities are in your eyes, when comes to lending to bettors and gamblers, they will always come back for more as soon as they find someone who has given them at least once.

Also, When comes to family and friends, I tend to lean to very close family members like parents and siblings, not far closing or nieces. It saves a lot of trouble if people around you assume you are broke.
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People keep asking me to borrow money, some of them for betting for me this is a red flag because they are going to use their money for gamble not for other useful things.
He borrow might he doesn't have money to brt more but the addiction is fueling his body. So don't.

Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
And when they are female friends, do you lend them?
I usually lend money to family or friend but I ask them what they are going to do with the money. Male female I'm gonna lend it if their purpose is good enough for me

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I never worry about where the money is used, when someone comes asking for a certain amount of money in the form of a loan, I will give a loan at the first opportunity and will adjust the nominal amount of the loan to my financial capabilities. I have a principle, a person will show his true colors when dealing with money. If the loan is repaid on time in the few times he has taken out a loan, it means that the person can be trusted. But if instead, he starts to distance himself from me and the loan is difficult to repay, I will limit my relationship with him from a financial perspective and will never trust him the next time. A person's character needs to be tested with money, that's how I judge the level of honesty of friends or relatives.
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People who lend money, lets check out how greedy you are Cheesy When you land money, do you expect the same amount in return of want to get something extra? Cheesy And if you lend money for gambling, do you expect given amount in return, or percent of a win? In case you lend 100 bucks and a guy wins a million, you expect 100 or more ? Cheesy Such question appeared because I have remembered the case when couple split after they won in a lottery, but cant share the prize, because guy purchased lottery ticket with chicks money Cheesy
You make me remember with that thread. Cheesy

I believe he will demand more than $100, but the winner will be stingy and say all the winnings come from him, not from you. If he won $100K, he might only want to give $200 and say it's already a good amount, I've doubled your money. Tongue

The conclusion is, either his friend can or can't pay off his debt, their friendship will be ruined.
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I don't lend my money anymore to those who wants to playing gambling. The last time I did made me difficult to asks them to repay the borrows money and still tells many reasons why. That's why I don't gives my money to people who wants to continue their gambling activity. I decided not to listen to those who wants to borrow my money and will tell them to search for the other people who wants to do that. I don't wants to gets a problem from them who lends my money because I knows that playing gambling doesn't gives wins easily and they can lose all of their money. Even if that person is female friends, I will not lend her as I knows the risks behind that and I will difficult to asks my money back. I will always tells them to use their own money with limitations if that's just for playing gambling rather than to borrows money from other people.
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if you feel uncomfortable that they want to borrow money from you just to gamble, then you should be able to avoid them and say that you don't have the money to lend. because it is your right to want to lend money or not, they have no right to protest or object to your decision, it is your money. honestly, lending money to gamblers is the same as donating to them because you will find it difficult to ask for your money back, unless they provide collateral for goods to you, that's not a problem, but you have to make sure that the goods really belong to them and are not stolen goods.

It's true what you said, we can avoid it and we can even say various reasons, because it's really better not to lend them money because it only makes them happy in the short term and of course we won't be able to easily get our money back like you said. Say it's true, because I myself experienced it where I had friends who borrowed money but what was annoying was that even though I had refused to lend for various reasons, how adamant they were in forcing me to borrow money and I thought it was because they had become addicted to gambling. even saying that they would return it in double, the big risky actions they took like that would not benefit them but would only make things more difficult.

That makes sense, if they provide collateral, maybe it can still be considered, but we have to be careful so that the items they provide as collateral are stolen goods, of course that will make things difficult for us in the future. It is very unfortunate if they dare to do something like that because in my opinion it is a formula for destroying life, not improving the situation.
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Usually I always look first at the character and nature or personality of the person who wants to borrow money from me, if indeed they are one of my close friends then surely at least I know about the activities and habits along with the things he likes and this closeness can certainly give me a little idea about what the money will be used for if for example they do not say about the purpose of using the money they borrowed from me.

In short, I only dare to lend money to some of my close friends who have a good character and are responsible in social relations as long as I know them, but if it turns out that I know that he is a gambler then I usually don't lend a penny, not refusing but saying as the OP said that I don't have money, because after all, lending money to a gambler is likely that they will use the money for gambling, Although for example they say that they will be responsible and pay on time but I still refuse it, and that's because as we know that a gambler especially one who is quite addicted always prioritizes his gambling activities when they have some money, meaning that most likely when they have money then they will prefer to gamble the money rather than pay debts, and for this reason why I prefer to say that I don't have money, none other than because prevention is always better than cure.
That's basically the simplest way to go about when actually you want to lend out money for your friends and again one of the reasons why I really don't want to get involved in such habits is that most of my friends I know of won't even find it necessary to even give it back willingly on time and what I hate in my life is disappointment and I rather just stick the best and most simplest answer which NO than cause myself stress and pain by lending money.

Yes that's why I said earlier that I prioritize prevention, or better prevention than cure, because after all there are so many gamblers who beg and say they will be responsible when they want to borrow but it turns out that they don't pay on time or even they don't pay at all so we have to let it go, and obviously it can make us disappointed, and it's quite hurtful when we give help and give trust to others but they themselves don't know themselves.

On the other hand I'm not saying that all people are irresponsible, but with the number of cases or incidents that I've seen and experienced that people who have been involved in gambling usually don't have good responsibility in themselves. So obviously like you said that it's better from the beginning we say that we can't lend them money for whatever reason we have, don't let someone put their hopes in you, because when they have managed to borrow from you then one day they will definitely come again.
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I do lend money to friends and relatives(not regularly tho) , but before I do so, I must make sure to investigate the financial status of that relative to be sure that he or she can be able to repay. I also usually investigate to know if the person is also a credit-worthy person. Some people (both relatives) are not creditworthy, and if you lend money to them, you may not get it back, or even before you get the money back, it might be in a forceful manner that is going to spoil the relationship you had with the person.

I don't give out loans unnecessarily to anyone, considering whether they are my relatives or not. If you don't have a good reputation or a financial source to repay the loan, I will not grant it. It's just like on this forum: before you can stand a chance to get a loan, you must be a reputable member.

I don't offer loan service, so if I squeeze out money from my savings to loan to anyone, the person needs to pay it back, and I can only do such for some that have a very better purpose for the money and not to gamble with it.
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It is okay to lend to your relatives it's your relatives are part of your bloodline but if it's from a friend better think twice because there is a saying the easiest way to lose a friend is to lend him or ask him to lend you, if they cannot pay you on time they usually stop communicating and ignore you, give him what you can afford to give so you will retain your friendship.
But of course you have to pay attention to lending to relatives, because if their goal is to borrow money to do things that are not important or even pointless, it's better not to just lend it, because the impact of debts and receivables does not depend on age or status, of course if someone has done it. borrowing money is very vulnerable to problems such as good relationships turning bad, sometimes even when the party lending the money charges, the party borrowing the money is even more rude. and this actually happens in my life, not only with other people, but even with family members, this can happen.
It's true what you said, indeed when they can't pay it on time they can stop communicating and even avoid it as much as possible and so on like that until they forget that they have a debt that must be paid off. Apart from that, just remember that prevention is better than cure, so as much as possible, don't just invite disease.
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People who lend money, lets check out how greedy you are Cheesy When you land money, do you expect the same amount in return of want to get something extra? Cheesy And if you lend money for gambling, do you expect given amount in return, or percent of a win? In case you lend 100 bucks and a guy wins a million, you expect 100 or more ? Cheesy Such question appeared because I have remembered the case when couple split after they won in a lottery, but cant share the prize, because guy purchased lottery ticket with chicks money Cheesy
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(...)Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?

And when they are female friends, do you lend them?

I may be willing to lend some money and not think much about what they will do with it, but everything needs to be on a scale, not the type of constantly borrowing money and seeing me as a tool solve their purpose and consider the relationship just to borrow money then it is not a good relationship Smiley

Anyway, there are too many situations that we cannot fully evaluate, but a transparent way is to ask the borrowers if they need that money to do something and they can pay it back without feeling guilty pressure.

Even when a girl asks to borrow money, I have many reasons to refuse/accept, so in each context we have different decisions, you do things that you are comfortable with, not the kind where others recognize your satisfaction. Even with a small loan, there is something that needs collateral, and the issue here is based on trust, so it will be very fragile.
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