Buying an Avalon 4 doesn't make you look fair and balanced. Let us be honest the Avalon 4's, as people have said here, are over priced and inefficient.
There is a reason for that they are BEHIND the design curve and were very late with this chip when you do a side by side comparison to what else is being offered by the competition. They are not in the same league and I suspect given how far behind they are and the past issues of fraud and delays commercial sales will be non-existent given the competitors products available now and what is planned.
Is this now a product thread review? I thought it was about the poll and consumer sentiments not a single person doing reviews of all the fabricators offerings... bit confused.
There is a reason for that they are BEHIND the design curve and were very late with this chip when you do a side by side comparison to what else is being offered by the competition. They are not in the same league and I suspect given how far behind they are and the past issues of fraud and delays commercial sales will be non-existent given the competitors products available now and what is planned.
Is this now a product thread review? I thought it was about the poll and consumer sentiments not a single person doing reviews of all the fabricators offerings... bit confused.
You are correct this is not a review thread
I am not posting a review here.
I mentioned I will review the avalon 4
In order to not clog this very long thread with excess info I will close it.
I will review the avalon 4 when it arrives. new thread one
I will show my experiences with
4 pieces of gear
Avalon 4
S-5
Sp20
asic miner prisma new thread two
I will do a new poll of gear new thread three.
What about attempting to rate the current manufacturers?
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Perspective and on topic. I can't rate them without a demo of gear.
I did sp20------------------------ I paid for the review model and did that thread on my own I paid more then 700 use for it
I did prisma --------------------mostly on crazy guy's thread I paid for the review model returned it once fire danger was found out
I did s-5------------------------ A free review model
Avalon 4 ----------------------- A free review model still waiting.
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Avalon is not the company you want to do any deals with given their history.
There are better companies. Better prices and better equipment out there.
Given that you can't make anything mining at home why bother?
Seriously if you are doing it for a hobby put some coins into a company that hasn't basically killed a whole swath of open hardware designers single handedly like Avalon.
There is a reason to avoid them make the right choice.
I got a S5, 2 S1, I had mutiple usb miner and now I got a Avalon4. We try to make the best evaluation of all miners.
The S5 is lound as hell but with modification you can reach something nice.
I have my miners in my livingroom so I need something quiet. Right now, the Avalon4 is really quit. I also mine on solar power and I mine to be part of the bitcoin system not to get rich. If I can do money over it well good.
I do agree that the Avalon4 is right now not cheap but its a good miner for home miners that dont want to modify anything.
Cheer
Valkir
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Perspective and on topic. I can't rate them without a demo of gear.
I did sp20------------------------ I paid for the review model and did that thread on my own I paid more then 700 use for it
I did prisma --------------------mostly on crazy guy's thread I paid for the review model returned it once fire danger was found out
I did s-5------------------------ A free review model
Avalon 4 ----------------------- A free review model still waiting.
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Avalon is not the company you want to do any deals with given their history.
There are better companies. Better prices and better equipment out there.
Given that you can't make anything mining at home why bother?
Seriously if you are doing it for a hobby put some coins into a company that hasn't basically killed a whole swath of open hardware designers single handedly like Avalon.
There is a reason to avoid them make the right choice.
If people were strictly concerned with the ideology of home mining and not ROI'ing, they would just buy a dozen or less Bitmain U3's or a couple old S3's to underclock and get that warm fuzzy feeling inside. Doesn't change the fact that it makes no more sense than buying an Avalon 4 though. 
Surely the U3's/S3's would be quiet too, and you would lose less of your money. Avalon project/Canaan missed the boat with this one, it was clear to see all the way back in the fall (too little too late).
PS Has anyone buying these even run models? Even with 0% difficulty increase, $0.05/KWh and $300/BTC price (all quite unrealistic atm except maybe power cost), they would take over 200 days to ROI. Give your head a shake people. Anyone that is promoting these quite obviously has something to gain, and it's not your hand in friendship
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Surely the U3's/S3's would be quiet too, and you would lose less of your money. Avalon project/Canaan missed the boat with this one, it was clear to see all the way back in the fall (too little too late).PS Has anyone buying these even run models? Even with 0% difficulty increase, $0.05/KWh and $300/BTC price (all quite unrealistic atm except maybe power cost), they would take over 200 days to ROI. Give your head a shake people. Anyone that is promoting these quite obviously has something to gain, and it's not your hand in friendship
.I got a S5, 2 S1, I had mutiple usb miner and now I got a Avalon4. We try to make the best evaluation of all miners.
The S5 is lound as hell but with modification you can reach something nice.
I have my miners in my livingroom so I need something quiet. Right now, the Avalon4 is really quit. I also mine on solar power and I mine to be part of the bitcoin system not to get rich. If I can do money over it well good.
I do agree that the Avalon4 is right now not cheap but its a good miner for home miners that dont want to modify anything.
Cheer
Valkir
I am going to close this particular thread off once I get the avalon 4.
I do not want to say Much more about avalon4 since I do not have one in hand.
Bick it is really hard to be neutral about gear and companies. I am making that effort.
Thread is locked. look for a new thread on this in about 4-5 weeks
If the diff stays around 50 billion................
