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Quote from: South Park on June 29, 2020, 01:40:30 PM

Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

With such action the gambler who are betting huge amounts of money will be more aggressive, alcohol affects how he treats the game. It's really common inside the casino house they've wanted to make sure that gamblers will feel the comfort and think that they are giving them special treatment without noticing the real intension.

They've wanted to make sure that the person will continue and stay inside the table and keep betting.

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 29, 2020, 04:44:18 PM

If it is established that the player and the dealer colluded. Wouldn't that be considered fraud?

Who established that, the casino?

If so, they don't even need an investigation into the matter, as in this case they can be the law unto themselves as well as the law enforcement agency. If we are talking about legal institutions, though, the fact of collusion can only be established in the court of law after the plaintiff reveals all of their evidence to that effect and the judge finds this evidence convincing and sufficient

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Quote from: deisik on June 29, 2020, 02:01:58 PM

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Quote from: deisik on June 29, 2020, 07:57:25 AM

We should not rule out the possibility that it is just a myth

However, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if casino employees could be discharged if something like that happened in real life. You wouldn't really expect someone to win jackpot three times without leaving the table, would you? So the dealer shouldn't have let the gambler go on playing after his second jackpot even if for the simple reason there was something wrong with the odds of whatever game was being played. When you think about it, it kinda makes sense to stop the game at once to look carefully into what might have gone wrong

In one of the casinos where I visited, a barmaid told me that they can fire a dealer just because of one suspicion that he is playing along with a client. And if the fact of cheating is proved, then the employee will also face criminal prosecution

I don't really think it makes up a criminal offence

More likely, the casino could demand financial compensation according to civil law, and the dealer could do essentially the same if he thinks their claims are unfounded and unjustified. In other words, it is a dispute between two parties to be resolved in a civil court, and there is no crime which would entail criminal investigation, proceedings, etc, and inflict punishment on the dealer according to criminal law if proven guilty

Of course, the casino will recover its losses in the course of civil proceedings.

Fraud is the deception of those who trusted you in order to extract benefits.
If it is established that the player and the dealer colluded. Wouldn't that be considered fraud?

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 29, 2020, 10:20:13 AM

Quote from: deisik on June 29, 2020, 07:57:25 AM

We should not rule out the possibility that it is just a myth

However, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if casino employees could be discharged if something like that happened in real life. You wouldn't really expect someone to win jackpot three times without leaving the table, would you? So the dealer shouldn't have let the gambler go on playing after his second jackpot even if for the simple reason there was something wrong with the odds of whatever game was being played. When you think about it, it kinda makes sense to stop the game at once to look carefully into what might have gone wrong

In one of the casinos where I visited, a barmaid told me that they can fire a dealer just because of one suspicion that he is playing along with a client. And if the fact of cheating is proved, then the employee will also face criminal prosecution

I don't really think it makes up a criminal offence

More likely, the casino could demand financial compensation according to civil law, and the dealer could do essentially the same if he thinks their claims are unfounded and unjustified. In other words, it is a dispute between two parties to be resolved in a civil court, and there is no crime which would entail criminal investigation, proceedings, etc, and inflict punishment on the dealer according to criminal law if proven guilty

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Quote from: fiulpro on June 16, 2020, 03:04:06 AM

•The reason there are no clocks and windows at casinos are because they don't want to let the users leave !Plus they often give free drinks to make your judgement bad and lavender of ofc Making you drowsy .
•If you want to eat or to go to restroom or to even cash out your Chips , you have to go deeper and which actually means , go through more games , that one last game makes people loose a lot of money.
•Casinos are designed like a maze so that the user might face problems in finding the EXIT , so you will play more ~

That is some tricks from the casino that won't allow the gamblers to stop or leave the casino. They do that by secretly, so we don't feel anything and don't know if they trick us. That is why we need to have control while we are playing gambling, and we need to determine by ourselves how long we can play gambling. When you play for a long time, there will be difficult for you to stop the game before your money runs out.

Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

I never thought that it is hard to work in a casino. If that is happening, that is just cruel. The job of the dealer is to manage a table, not to stop people from winning but I guess that is how the casinos work really. Reality is just a cruel place. I have a friend working in the casino in the past but he never said anything about this, maybe this depends on the casino?

We should not rule out the possibility that it is just a myth

However, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if casino employees could be discharged if something like that happened in real life. You wouldn't really expect someone to win jackpot three times without leaving the table, would you? So the dealer shouldn't have let the gambler go on playing after his second jackpot even if for the simple reason there was something wrong with the odds of whatever game was being played. When you think about it, it kinda makes sense to stop the game at once to look carefully into what might have gone wrong

In one of the casinos where I visited, a barmaid told me that they can fire a dealer just because of one suspicion that he is playing along with a client. And if the fact of cheating is proved, then the employee will also face criminal prosecution.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2020, 05:24:27 AM

Lol, a couple of players winning big in a casino won't mean that they will go bankrupt. Remember that it is a business and they have deep pockets to begin with. I'm not sure if you have been in a physical casinos, because everyday there are literally gamblers winning jackpot in slots but it doesn't mean that casinos will suddenly file for bankruptcy. And I don't think that you will get an outright ban if you win big. Casinos are more intelligent than that, they investigate first before banning someone, just not in their casino, but I'm sure that the word will go out in other casinos. So it will take time, unless as I have said you cheated your way.

If a gambler keep hitting too much jackpots on game like blackjack then they will be surely kicked out from the casinos and they will tell that you are cheating the game by counting cards which is actually impossible to prove by them but still they will ban you based on suspicious causes.

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons.

Blackjack is different though, there's no such thing as jackpot on them, and I do hope you know that blackjack has the highest odds of winning. If you are talking like slots games and winning jackpot then there's no way that you can simply be kick on ban just because you are lucky or really be rigging the machine itself which the mafia has done before but eventually they have been caught.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on June 29, 2020, 07:19:52 AM

Quote from: deisik on June 27, 2020, 12:38:24 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

I never thought that it is hard to work in a casino. If that is happening, that is just cruel. The job of the dealer is to manage a table, not to stop people from winning but I guess that is how the casinos work really. Reality is just a cruel place. I have a friend working in the casino in the past but he never said anything about this, maybe this depends on the casino?

We should not rule out the possibility that it is just a myth

However, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if casino employees could be discharged if something like that happened in real life. You wouldn't really expect someone to win jackpot three times without leaving the table, would you? So the dealer shouldn't have let the gambler go on playing after his second jackpot even if for the simple reason there was something wrong with the odds of whatever game was being played. When you think about it, it kinda makes sense to stop the game at once to look carefully into what might have gone wrong

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Quote from: deisik on June 27, 2020, 12:38:24 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

I never thought that it is hard to work in a casino. If that is happening, that is just cruel. The job of the dealer is to manage a table, not to stop people from winning but I guess that is how the casinos work really. Reality is just a cruel place. I have a friend working in the casino in the past but he never said anything about this, maybe this depends on the casino?

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 28, 2020, 02:08:21 PM

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The same thing also happens with online casinos as well when someone win bigger they will be accused for some kind of cheating and their funds will be on hold forever.

Is it not necessary to present evidence to accuse a player of cheating the online casino? After all, there is a presumption of innocence and until the guilt of a person is directly proven, he can not be considered a cheater. They can simply deny a person the opportunity to play, but they need strong evidence to block a player's money.

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Quote from: deisik on June 27, 2020, 12:38:24 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

That sounds pretty harsh. I don't think this will hold up in court and the dealer probably sued the casino for a nice payout. The dealer is there to take care of the game in a fair manner, not influence the game - if that would ever come out that the dealers are rigging the game, then the reputation would be over. Which whale would keep playing in such a setting? Also it should be the securities job to take care of such matters, not the dealers.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 28, 2020, 02:08:21 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on June 27, 2020, 06:29:10 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 27, 2020, 06:16:51 PM

When it comes to multiple big wins on a consecutive manner or lets say hitting up continuously then im not surprised if those casinos would kick you out since you would be definitely

the culprit for their business to be on the unprofitable side.Making out alibis or reason for you to be cheating so that you wont able to play further but in most cases its already too late or the damage
had been done already.

There are lots of situations of this kind.

And isn't there a clause in the rules of most casinos that they can refuse to serve a visitor without explaining the reasons? I think on the basis of this, they can't allow to play people who often win, but their cheating is not proven.

Yes they can, maybe not legally but still they can refuse any player from entering into their casinos because casinos owned by private has their own rules as well. The same thing also happens with online casinos as well when someone win bigger they will be accused for some kind of cheating and their funds will be on hold forever

Well, in the latter case you can always complain here

Some tried, with their mileage varying. Regarding land-based casinos, most are located in special zones with "special" laws as well, which in many cases effectively stands for no-law territory (as in "I'm the law"), e.g. casinos located in native American reservations in the States. So don't get surprised when you get kicked out with no reason given, even if your wins don't amount to much on their own

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 27, 2020, 06:29:10 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 27, 2020, 06:16:51 PM

When it comes to multiple big wins on a consecutive manner or lets say hitting up continuously then im not surprised if those casinos would kick you out since you would be definitely

the culprit for their business to be on the unprofitable side.Making out alibis or reason for you to be cheating so that you wont able to play further but in most cases its already too late or the damage
had been done already.

There are lots of situations of this kind.

And isn't there a clause in the rules of most casinos that they can refuse to serve a visitor without explaining the reasons? I think on the basis of this, they can't allow to play people who often win, but their cheating is not proven.

Yes they can, maybe not legally but still they can refuse any player from entering into their casinos because casinos owned by private has their own rules as well. The same thing also happens with online casinos as well when someone win bigger they will be accused for some kind of cheating and their funds will be on hold forever.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on June 27, 2020, 07:24:47 PM

You are right some addicted gamblers are forcing the casino organization to open casino which is not a good thing at all. Their addiction can cause danger for them so if we have a chance to gamble from. home why not take it. addiction to gambling can be fulfilled by anyway. So if you have the opportunity to gamble offline we should not go out as its much better to be careful than blaming later on anyone which is useless.

The addicting gamblers won't think too much because they want to play more and more. Sometimes, they will not realize or forget about the risk itself, and they still trying to gamble using many ways. And now, with some casino are trying to reopen, that can make them feel happy because they can back to gamble and meet their friend or opponent, and they can try to win some money. Perhaps, their reason to back to the gambling table is that they want to make money from gambling, but that won't be easy since they need to have the luck to win.

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This is the fact of physical casinos, gamblers are used as a source of money for the houses. Therefore several physical casinos
forced to reopen in a pandemic situation as it is now, because it wants to make money from addicted gamblers. Therefore
I mostly play gambling online, because we can stop playing gambling without any influence from the owners of gambling sites.
It's very different if we play gambling in physical casinos, it's very difficult to stop playing gambling. Many things make
we have trouble stopping playing gambling.

So it means that those addicted gamblers will want to go physical casino to play gambling and will not care about their health. If they got infected by covid-19, whom they will blame ? This means that gambling addiction will be another reason for the cause of covid-19. Why not play gambling online and avoid visiting the physical casino ?

You are right some addicted gamblers are forcing the casino organization to open casino which is not a good thing at all. Their addiction can cause danger for them so if we have a chance to gamble from. home why not take it. addiction to gambling can be fulfilled by anyway. So if you have the opportunity to gamble offline we should not go out as its much better to be careful than blaming later on anyone which is useless.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 27, 2020, 06:16:51 PM

When it comes to multiple big wins on a consecutive manner or lets say hitting up continuously then im not surprised if those casinos would kick you out since you would be definitely

the culprit for their business to be on the unprofitable side.Making out alibis or reason for you to be cheating so that you wont able to play further but in most cases its already too late or the damage
had been done already.

There are lots of situations of this kind.

And isn't there a clause in the rules of most casinos that they can refuse to serve a visitor without explaining the reasons? I think on the basis of this, they can't allow to play people who often win, but their cheating is not proven.

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Quote from: deisik on June 27, 2020, 12:38:24 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

When it comes to multiple big wins on a consecutive manner or lets say hitting up continuously then im not surprised if those casinos would kick you out since you would be definitely

the culprit for their business to be on the unprofitable side.Making out alibis or reason for you to be cheating so that you wont able to play further but in most cases its already too late or the damage
had been done already.

There are lots of situations of this kind.

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Quote from: deisik on June 27, 2020, 12:38:24 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what's it worth, though

I think he did some study on the casino to able him to decode the casino like this guy, The only difference between them is this guy is playing on a gameshow and people are believing that he has extreme luck because of the game he's playing.

The management also tries to stop the game but unfortunately, it is too late, Also he was accused on cheating but they can't prove that this man cheated.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on June 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 27, 2020, 05:24:27 AM

Lol, a couple of players winning big in a casino won't mean that they will go bankrupt. Remember that it is a business and they have deep pockets to begin with. I'm not sure if you have been in a physical casinos, because everyday there are literally gamblers winning jackpot in slots but it doesn't mean that casinos will suddenly file for bankruptcy. And I don't think that you will get an outright ban if you win big. Casinos are more intelligent than that, they investigate first before banning someone, just not in their casino, but I'm sure that the word will go out in other casinos. So it will take time, unless as I have said you cheated your way.

If a gambler keep hitting too much jackpots on game like blackjack then they will be surely kicked out from the casinos and they will tell that you are cheating the game by counting cards which is actually impossible to prove by them but still they will ban you based on suspicious causes.

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons.

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