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Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2020, 11:38:25 PM

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

This may be possible, and there may be some other tactics could also be deployed just in order to ensure the house is in order and nothing fishy happens while gambling. Because any unpleasant kind of experience if shared in outside world then the reputation of such casinos will take a hit and would result of switch of the gamblers from one to other casinos and nobody would want that to happen.

I've heard of another tactic. Major casinos have a database of undesirable individuals who have been caught cheating or are simply suspected of cheating. Such people will be denied access to the casino. II have also heard that major casinos exchange this database with each other. And if you get blacklisted in one Las Vegas casino, you may not be allowed in many others. This is also a good protection against cheaters.

It's not impossible, they are on the same business so they are into protecting their respective businesses, though they are competitors but when it comes to cheaters they are united with that. As the saying that I heard before, when you are a casino, they will love you when you keep losing money but if you keep winning, they will hate you and you are not welcome since you are a threat to their business.

I don't know, but is it also possible for a gambler to be ban in a casino even if he is not cheating because he is always winning?

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Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2020, 11:38:25 PM

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

This may be possible, and there may be some other tactics could also be deployed just in order to ensure the house is in order and nothing fishy happens while gambling. Because any unpleasant kind of experience if shared in outside world then the reputation of such casinos will take a hit and would result of switch of the gamblers from one to other casinos and nobody would want that to happen.

I've heard of another tactic. Major casinos have a database of undesirable individuals who have been caught cheating or are simply suspected of cheating. Such people will be denied access to the casino. II have also heard that major casinos exchange this database with each other. And if you get blacklisted in one Las Vegas casino, you may not be allowed in many others. This is also a good protection against cheaters.

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I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

I think that all casinos are concerned about their reputation and want players to feel safe and not cheat in games. However, not all casinos can afford high security costs. Therefore, casinos often compromise on security and the cost of providing it.

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So it means that those addicted gamblers will want to go physical casino to play gambling and will not care about their health. If they got infected by covid-19, whom they will blame ? This means that gambling addiction will be another reason for the cause of covid-19. Why not play gambling online and avoid visiting the physical casino ?

Not necessarily. There are still gambling addicts even in Online gambling, and anyone wanting to go to physical casinos to gamble doesn't mean that they are addicts. A casino could also said to be similar to a meeting place which can be used to meet up with other people. It isn't as simple as Online gambling and Physical gambling after all. It's like how Mobile gaming differ from the immersion that PC gaming can offer.

Quote from: michellee on June 21, 2020, 11:38:25 PM

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

What's the use of having employees pretend as gamblers? If they were found out, it could easily be seen as a way to manipulate the mindset of the customers that gamble. An easy example would be the employee pretending pushing the others to play with him and the like. Just let them be a normal employee, there are cams all over the place after all so any suspicious activity could easily be seen, as long as no blindspots are made that is.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 21, 2020, 04:49:22 AM

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

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I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.

Nah, the eye in the sky is already enough for casino operators to catch the cheater, we all know that there are a lot of cameras and for sure those who are going to attempt to cheat are being caught in the camera. But I would say that casino officials most of the times do talk and mingle to players, and specially if you are a long time player of a certain casinos, definitely you will be recognise from dealers to pit boss around. Maybe some of them are friends outside for all we know.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 21, 2020, 04:49:22 AM

I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

When it comes to gambling places then these kind of problems like rage, argumentation with co-players and other stuff does exist but only on a rare numbers.

Security is a must when it comes to these kind of establishments which is normal because we dont know on when do problem arise that do really needs security intervention

and the rest is just part of the norm on where it is just right for them to place out these personnel for anyones safety.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 21, 2020, 04:49:22 AM

I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

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Quote from: MCobian on June 19, 2020, 10:29:41 AM

This is the fact of physical casinos, gamblers are used as a source of money for the houses. Therefore several physical casinos
forced to reopen in a pandemic situation as it is now, because it wants to make money from addicted gamblers. Therefore
I mostly play gambling online, because we can stop playing gambling without any influence from the owners of gambling sites.
It's very different if we play gambling in physical casinos, it's very difficult to stop playing gambling. Many things make
we have trouble stopping playing gambling.

So it means that those addicted gamblers will want to go physical casino to play gambling and will not care about their health. If they got infected by covid-19, whom they will blame ? This means that gambling addiction will be another reason for the cause of covid-19. Why not play gambling online and avoid visiting the physical casino ?

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Thanks for the heads up. I never knew such details and planning by Casinos were done. Anyways now, because of the pandemic, many have shifted to online gambling. Those things are not applicable when you gamble online. The list does make me believe that online gambling is far much safer.

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Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

This means that the casino security services do it very efficiently or skillfully. I have never seen a very drunk person taken out of the hall. I only once saw a person who reacted aggressively to a big loss being taken out, but he was sober.

Yes, I also have noticed many time about overdrinking is not a problem there as long as not disturbing the funny mood of gamblers but if you complain about gambling in any manner then you will not be allowed to continue any more. Physical security officers need to be more proactive so that they can ensure about no big messy things are not happening.

I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.

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This is really a helpful post so we can be aware next time. Its like the psychology behind getting addicted to casinos, or if not the science that makes you go back to those casinos. I am familiar with the ATM machines charging high, happy person, etc. There are still those that surprised me. The full table, I didn't think they will go that far just to earn more. The casino as a maze like whaaat, that's really the reason why? Cause I think it is effective. The clock and so on makes me feel the creepy side of casinos. They don't want you to go out without losing your money and so on.

This post makes me remember a thread that said casinos cares for us and so on, some didn't think we are being manipulated too spending money too.

PS. how will the casinos make sure the winner who wins a lot will not came back? I hope my brain is not thinking the right answer cause I watched too many mystery films.

There is nothing really wrong with having good betting centers for people to come try their "luck" and use their talent/skills for rewards. I believe doing it wrongly is the problem. You could have casinos or something similar to have only good/safe games people can play/bet on for rewards. You also make sure your customers are betting responsibly/right, and not gambling with their money/time.
I would like to one day see betting centers where people could compete/bet on thing like stimulated farming, city building, animals raring, etc. They should mostly be games people could learn good things they can easily apply in their real environments/societies and be productive even when they lose bets on the stimulated ones. .

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It's all subtle effects but once they are put together, they can actually bring about huge effects. This is what amazes me with Brick and Mortar casinos tbh. They spend much effort and actually take the business quite seriously, and they aren't even forcing anyone. They're just subtlety letting them know that they should spend more money on the casino.

Quote from: Janation on June 20, 2020, 11:30:14 PM

That is true.

If you were attacked by drunk or intoxicated people and the security is not aware of what is happening, then it will be the fault of the casino for not stopping that before it escalates. As far as I know, you can get a lawyer for that and the casino will be responsible for your medical expenses.

It's not only the one getting beaten up that would get affected. No matter the situation, if something goes wrong one way or another, everyone inside would get affected. Especially, if it was a negative event such as a fight, with food and drinks being splattered all over the place. It gives the site of event look like a garbage dump, therefore reducing the over all reputation of the caisno, whether it be a result of an accident or not.

Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 20, 2020, 02:52:12 AM

Physical casinos are also a place for business, most of the time, big businessmen visit casinos to enjoy and have fun while interacting mostly with others that is in the same financial status as they are, so they are building relationships and connections to expand their business while having fun.

While online casinos are for those people who really want to test their luck and have fun.

But right now with our current condition, most of the physical casino gamblers are also taking advantage of online casinos because they still miss the feeling of winning and testing their luck.

True, most Physical Casinos in my eyes are actually places to get to know other people. Sure, you'd sit down a table and maybe play but really, in the end, it'd boil down to you at least meeting a few people a day, getting to know them and maybe even getting closer.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on June 20, 2020, 06:22:53 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on June 20, 2020, 06:22:53 PM

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

This means that the casino security services do it very efficiently or skillfully. I have never seen a very drunk person taken out of the hall. I only once saw a person who reacted aggressively to a big loss being taken out, but he was sober.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 17, 2020, 06:42:14 PM

All the casinos I've been to have given out free alcoholic beverages to all patrons as long as you gamble. Of course, people who were in an inadequate state due to alcohol were not there. However, a lot of people had with burning eyes from alcohol)

The fact that they are offering free alcoholic beverages, they can't assure that no one will get drunk, but as long as they behave based on the rules of the casino, I don't think there is a problem with that. When we get drunk, we are more aggressive, if we are lucky we could win but since most of the time gamblers loses, it will give them the advantage so that kind of trick really works.

The more that we get drunk is the more that we are positive and being that our bets will be continues thinking that every rounds will favor us.
until we realized that we have zero money in our pocket and we have no choice but to Go home.
Sad but true and this is the main reason why we are being treated like that from freebies for us to stay longer and lose more.

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

That is true.

If you were attacked by drunk or intoxicated people and the security is not aware of what is happening, then it will be the fault of the casino for not stopping that before it escalates. As far as I know, you can get a lawyer for that and the casino will be responsible for your medical expenses.

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Quote from: peter0425 on June 20, 2020, 04:15:18 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on June 17, 2020, 06:42:14 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on June 20, 2020, 04:15:18 AM

All the casinos I've been to have given out free alcoholic beverages to all patrons as long as you gamble. Of course, people who were in an inadequate state due to alcohol were not there. However, a lot of people had with burning eyes from alcohol)

The fact that they are offering free alcoholic beverages, they can't assure that no one will get drunk, but as long as they behave based on the rules of the casino, I don't think there is a problem with that. When we get drunk, we are more aggressive, if we are lucky we could win but since most of the time gamblers loses, it will give them the advantage so that kind of trick really works.

The more that we get drunk is the more that we are positive and being that our bets will be continues thinking that every rounds will favor us.
until we realized that we have zero money in our pocket and we have no choice but to Go home.
Sad but true and this is the main reason why we are being treated like that from freebies for us to stay longer and lose more.

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 20, 2020, 02:52:12 AM

All the casinos I've been to have given out free alcoholic beverages to all patrons as long as you gamble. Of course, people who were in an inadequate state due to alcohol were not there. However, a lot of people had with burning eyes from alcohol)

The fact that they are offering free alcoholic beverages, they can't assure that no one will get drunk, but as long as they behave based on the rules of the casino, I don't think there is a problem with that. When we get drunk, we are more aggressive, if we are lucky we could win but since most of the time gamblers loses, it will give them the advantage so that kind of trick really works.

The more that we get drunk is the more that we are positive and being that our bets will be continues thinking that every rounds will favor us.
until we realized that we have zero money in our pocket and we have no choice but to Go home.
Sad but true and this is the main reason why we are being treated like that from freebies for us to stay longer and lose more.

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

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Quote from: Tipstar on June 19, 2020, 10:33:25 AM

With restricitons on Blackjack profit by many casinos, the house edge on real casinos are above 5% for almost every games.
Real casinos are not the place to go if you are after profit. You can have much favorable environment on online casinos where you can gamble at your own pace. Real world casinos are for fun with friends and partners.

Physical casinos are also a place for business, most of the time, big businessmen visit casinos to enjoy and have fun while interacting mostly with others that is in the same financial status as they are, so they are building relationships and connections to expand their business while having fun.

While online casinos are for those people who really want to test their luck and have fun.

But right now with our current condition, most of the physical casino gamblers are also taking advantage of online casinos because they still miss the feeling of winning and testing their luck.

I dont know what kind of perception or idea was that about big businessmen.If there were people who do intend to play then that would just basically talks about on having
fun and it would be rare if they would still mind about connections with other businessman into that certain place.We cant be sure if majority of them would really hang out
into these places for that kind of purpose.So i cant really much agree into that point.

Missing out gambling activity wont really matter if you are physical or online gambler.Its all the same when it come to system and do only differs with ambiance.

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Quote from: Tipstar on June 19, 2020, 10:33:25 AM

With restricitons on Blackjack profit by many casinos, the house edge on real casinos are above 5% for almost every games.
Real casinos are not the place to go if you are after profit. You can have much favorable environment on online casinos where you can gamble at your own pace. Real world casinos are for fun with friends and partners.

Any casino should be considered primarily as a place for entertainment. It does not depend much on whether it is an online casino or a regular casino. In order to constantly earn money from gambling, you need to play poker, bet on sports and be a professional in this. Because it is impossible to constantly win at the dice game, since everything depends only on luck.

Constant win or earning money doesnt really fit out in gambling world even if you do involved yourself into sportsbet or poker.

When it comes to strategies of physical casinos regarding into their own ways on trying to retain their players then its just normal because thats how business works.

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