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Topic: Playing HYIP's and Who to Avoid - AVOID Bitcoin-Trader & Rockwell-Partners.com - page 7. (Read 14014 times)

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Hope most of you did not get into bitcofinancial, a terrible cheap scam. Some people did message me about the program. Hope you were able to get out as much funds as possible. I need to strongly urge anyone in Rockwell-Partners to withdraw, withdraw, withdraw. PLEASE!
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Called it. Bitcofinancial is done. Called it out for the cheap scam it is. Gone scam quick.
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leancy-back.com  - scam claiming to be Leancy resurrected
oilrigcontractors-refund.com - scam claiming to offer refunds to those who were scammed one already
magicpaying.com - complete piece of shit site that doesn't pay anyone except HYIP monitors


LOL I can't believe someone has launched those. That was a typical scam years ago after programs died. Never thought I'd see that shit again. Wow.
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leancy-back.com  - scam claiming to be Leancy resurrected
oilrigcontractors-refund.com - scam claiming to offer refunds to those who were scammed one already
magicpaying.com - complete piece of shit site that doesn't pay anyone except HYIP monitors
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Just got report Rockwell cashed out about $50k of its STP funds out the past week, you've been warned friends!
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Congrats to those who got out of oil rig contractors when I told them to and got paid. Had a lot of people message me about oil rig over the past week. Don't ever trust a short term HYIP with more than a few hundred bucks.
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Something I need to re-iterate, if you are going to play high risk short term HYIP's, don't ever play more than $1k in them. Also important to know most HYIP's will block large deposits, as very few are even capable of handling large deposits at any given time in the industry.
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Admin is behind on sending out payouts as he is sick. Monitors still showing paying status and Facebook page indicates payouts after a slight 12 hour delay.

Sure they'll eventually disappear, all these sites do, but I think we can get another month or two.

If you make a deposit of $100 or more and you use my referral, I'll give you back 1/3 of your investment. I've made a killing off of this site, and compounding my returns.

I'd gladly help out those who build my referral.... shoot me a PM on here after you deposited and I'll send you 33% of what you put in. I will send only by BTC though, I don't use any other currency.

https://oilrigcontractors.com/index.php?ref=hyipmon


LOL. That admin has been pretty scummy from the beginning. ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO?!?! LOL. That is plain naive. And the admin is not behind on payouts because he is sick. The site will close this week. Also monitors don't mean squat.
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Admin is behind on sending out payouts as he is sick. Monitors still showing paying status and Facebook page indicates payouts after a slight 12 hour delay.

Sure they'll eventually disappear, all these sites do, but I think we can get another month or two.

If you make a deposit of $100 or more and you use my referral, I'll give you back 1/3 of your investment. I've made a killing off of this site, and compounding my returns.

I'd gladly help out those who build my referral.... shoot me a PM on here after you deposited and I'll send you 33% of what you put in. I will send only by BTC though, I don't use any other currency.

https://oilrigcontractors.com/index.php?ref=hyipmon
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If you are playing the short term site, oilrig, have to strongly urge you to pull out any funds ASAP.
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Not sure who it was on this forum, but someone not usually in my downline made a big deposit under bitcoin in one of the HYIP's I am in. Totally didn't have to, but I appreciate it whomever it may have been!

I am sure your work here is doing good and you are making money. thats not bad, you are pushing people into your systems. Its just funny, that you are warning people from a real company, which is not a ponzi. But hey, a real non ponzi dont need fresh money every day, right?

Keep on hard work!

a good list with most frauds, whatever topic you can find here:
http://www.badbitcoin.org/

Bitcoin-trader is a ponzi game. That isn't the reason why I warn about them, it is because of their elaborate deception. Also ponzi games are known for having supplemental incomes to the site and not just fresh money every day. Some admins use short term sites and pop them out here and there to supplement their main site they run. Some admins also do use user funds at times for other things to help extend the game.  One thing Bitcoin-trader shouldn't have done to create a better deception lol is use Chris at shadowscripts for their site. The script is built to run a ponzi game, many of us have seen the admin backend. I also don't push people into the programs I am in. I offer up advice and don't offer referral links unless someone asks for them. Many of the users here who I have offered advice to I have never given a referral link to. My main goal is to keep Bitcoiners safe from an industry that is new to them. My referral income has been great for a number of years prior to coming to this forum.
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Not sure who it was on this forum, but someone not usually in my downline made a big deposit under bitcoin in one of the HYIP's I am in. Totally didn't have to, but I appreciate it whomever it may have been!

I am sure your work here is doing good and you are making money. thats not bad, you are pushing people into your systems. Its just funny, that you are warning people from a real company, which is not a ponzi. But hey, a real non ponzi dont need fresh money every day, right?

Keep on hard work!

a good list with most frauds, whatever topic you can find here:
http://www.badbitcoin.org/
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Not sure who it was on this forum, but someone not usually in my downline made a big deposit under bitcoin in one of the HYIP's I am in. Totally didn't have to, but I appreciate it whomever it may have been!
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So Bitcoin Trader now says I must have been the person to contact them to ask for a 10 bitcoin bounty to keep from bashing their program. Nice to know I am doing something right by garnering their attention all of a sudden. Funny though since technically they are the small fish of my list.
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Nice list man!
Thanks for advices about where to invest!
When i'll have some BTC i will invest a bit in a very stable HYIP!

Good luck wherever you invest!
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Nice list man!
Thanks for advices about where to invest!
When i'll have some BTC i will invest a bit in a very stable HYIP!
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yonce - again tyvm.  i'm fucking fascinated with the world of mini-madoffs...



I remember the "Zeek rewards" thing going super-viral then of course going boom.  I remember someone in my family emailing me the foxnews article recently:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/05/zeekrewards-former-chief-operating-officer-pleads-guilty-in-850-million-ponzi/

DAAAMN $850M

Was this clearly a more professional offering, but same basic HYIP heart.  Did you make tons from this one?  It seems like sharp HYIP players wouldn't have guessed it would blow up that big and got out early?



It is quite fascinating. I became even more so fascinated with it over the years as I delved deeper into the industry. I did not see that article on Zeek! Thanks!

I was in Zeek. Something very interesting about Zeek is they helped HYIP admins cash out STP funds in the millions a lot quicker during that time. The HYIP vendors that provide cash out services to admins from STP to anonymous funds were able to exchange millions a lot quicker during that time when Zeek was up and running. At the moment, it takes a little longer to cash out STP for HYIP admins. For a big successful program with STP, it can take 2 months to cash out.

I think one of the key things is when people go into HYIP's you need to go into an experienced group going in. I tried playing by myself in the beginning and got more messed up than when I began learning more, becoming more experienced, and building relationships with the right people. You have your HYIP players making six figures a year, repeat players making 5 figures a year, and many never more than 3 or 4 figures a year. I'm sure many of these players have no idea how admins cash out their STP or that it was even some sort of system. Digging deeper and building those relationships would help a lot more become more successful being a HYIP player.
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yonce - again tyvm.  i'm fucking fascinated with the world of mini-madoffs...



I remember the "Zeek rewards" thing going super-viral then of course going boom.  I remember someone in my family emailing me the foxnews article recently:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/02/05/zeekrewards-former-chief-operating-officer-pleads-guilty-in-850-million-ponzi/

DAAAMN $850M

Was this clearly a more professional offering, but same basic HYIP heart.  Did you make tons from this one?  It seems like sharp HYIP players wouldn't have guessed it would blow up that big and got out early?
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Thought I would post, not going to specifically list every fly by night short term high yield program that comes by. But please save yourself some heartache and avoid them. The short term admins are sleazy and should be avoided. Unlikely you will ever see 1000% percent and above returns per year if you play them. The short terms admins are trying to fight for a small share of the HYIP industry - they don't control much at all of the 100 million a year industry.
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Yonce - tyvm for your detailed response above.

A few more questions if you don't mind (and once again tytytytyty for being so open about it, I have never heard the rational viewpoint on these until you)

1)  Did the liberty reserve debacle kill you guys?  Is that akin to the Neteller or Full Tilt debacle?  or "black friday" to us online poker players?

2) This "Soild Trust Pay" seems to be the currency of HYIP, although you bet your ass it's moving to bitcoin when they see how easily and freely they can pwn the /gambling section and how many idiots will send them coins immediately, no washing, no payment system shutdowns, etc.   ok anyway I read this:

NOTE - SolidTrust Pay does NOT accept adult, pharmaceutical, dating, gambling, firearm, tobacco, lottery or casino businesses of any kind.

and why won't this thing just get Liberty Reserve'd ?


The Liberty Reserve debacle didn't kill the industry because there were other players in the market, but it for sure lessened the money greatly in play for about 5 or 6 months minimum. The industry players for sure got real angry about the U.S. government shutting it down and majority of foreign players see the U.S. government as an enemy to them and their freedoms. Some intense conversations happened during all that with players on the forums. I'd have to say the addition of Bitcoin as a big player in the industry helped it recover a lot quicker.

SolidTrust Pay is something I do not know why it didn't get Liberty Reserve'd at the same time FinCen went after them. They do have some intense verification procedures in general and they have even cooperated formally with the SEC way back when over one site called Zeek and still went on with business. There's also been some new regulations this year in place for HYIP admin's having to also send all sorts of compliance type things - financial reports, corporate records to continue using them. So I guess it is somehow in the clear for now. The amount of programs that accept Solid Trust Pay have been reduced over the new regulations.

Bitcoin has opened up the U.S. market for sure along with SolidTrust Pay being the other major U.S. player for HYIP's. The other major processors have blocked American customers.

I'd have to say today, the HYIP market is bigger and more active than it was the 6 months leading up to Liberty Reserve shutting down. SolidTrust Pay and Bitcoin definitely are two big reasons for that. Many U.S. players did not even use Liberty Reserve and were not affected by the shut down. I think Bitcoin may even bring HYIP's back to some of the peak years of the industry.
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