Yonce - tyvm for your detailed response above.
A few more questions if you don't mind (and once again tytytytyty for being so open about it, I have never heard the rational viewpoint on these until you)
1) Did the liberty reserve debacle kill you guys? Is that akin to the Neteller or Full Tilt debacle? or "black friday" to us online poker players?
2) This "Soild Trust Pay" seems to be the currency of HYIP, although you bet your ass it's moving to bitcoin when they see how easily and freely they can pwn the /gambling section and how many idiots will send them coins immediately, no washing, no payment system shutdowns, etc. ok anyway I read this:
NOTE - SolidTrust Pay does NOT accept adult, pharmaceutical, dating, gambling, firearm, tobacco, lottery or casino businesses of any kind.
and why won't this thing just get Liberty Reserve'd ?
The Liberty Reserve debacle didn't kill the industry because there were other players in the market, but it for sure lessened the money greatly in play for about 5 or 6 months minimum. The industry players for sure got real angry about the U.S. government shutting it down and majority of foreign players see the U.S. government as an enemy to them and their freedoms. Some intense conversations happened during all that with players on the forums. I'd have to say the addition of Bitcoin as a big player in the industry helped it recover a lot quicker.
SolidTrust Pay is something I do not know why it didn't get Liberty Reserve'd at the same time FinCen went after them. They do have some intense verification procedures in general and they have even cooperated formally with the SEC way back when over one site called Zeek and still went on with business. There's also been some new regulations this year in place for HYIP admin's having to also send all sorts of compliance type things - financial reports, corporate records to continue using them. So I guess it is somehow in the clear for now. The amount of programs that accept Solid Trust Pay have been reduced over the new regulations.
Bitcoin has opened up the U.S. market for sure along with SolidTrust Pay being the other major U.S. player for HYIP's. The other major processors have blocked American customers.
I'd have to say today, the HYIP market is bigger and more active than it was the 6 months leading up to Liberty Reserve shutting down. SolidTrust Pay and Bitcoin definitely are two big reasons for that. Many U.S. players did not even use Liberty Reserve and were not affected by the shut down. I think Bitcoin may even bring HYIP's back to some of the peak years of the industry.