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Again, do we need to rehash this?  You posted a link to your daughters name/face in your forum signature and expected no one to know she was you're daughter?  And then you also tag her images, first name and profile on instagram (with bongs/weedplants) and then claim I'm the one revealing her identity to the world?  Again, I've extended my apology for pointing out the information on NWGT but you cannot call me a liar when you're the one posting her name/info/face everywhere.

As someone mentioned previously, if you're so concerned about her why do you continue to discuss and bring attention to use try and use as leverage in you're attacks. And yes, an apology from you and to the community for your poor choice of words/anger. Try using the homosexual slur in Capitol Hill and see how people react...  You're so concerned about your daughter identify then why do you post her images/name/face on your Lemonhoko growing/breeding social media if she's underage? I already told you, it was a negligent mistake and you're upset that I pointed it out publicly in front of others. I understand how you're upset and that's why I even took the time to publicly apologize, now be a man reconcile if you want to move on and wish to return to NWGT.

I have no personal axe to grind with either of the Cannacoin twins.  I've been a member of NWGT for several years and have met both Jameson and Mr. Ramirez in person.

It would be one thing to bring Cannacoin to a forum that specialized in growing something other than cannabis, such as lavender or apples, but you are bringing unwanted attention to a medical cannabis forum where people for the most part, I would guess, deal in cash.

So far the DEA and RICO have been discussed.  You've forgotten that the IRS will get you even if the DEA doesn't.  The IRS has the legal power to demand your customer lists and your cryptocurrency transactions.  If you fail to do so you can be fined and/or see jail time.  Every person who is a member of NWGT is at risk because the IRS can demand to see records of who is a member there.

Maybe you missed this post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2byri6/irs_auditing_my_mining_business_found_older/

You post a pic of my minor child on your forum...I get upset with you and call you a name...and I owe YOU and apology?

Im glad you are making it real obvious what your nature is Peezor...I cant wait toi talk to you in person about this subject.

Have a nice day!


~Lem

The tag teaming action of both of you here is becoming childish and immature, at point as you're both upset for breaking the rules of our website and being banned and now your retaliate by attempting to turn the discussion it into some sort "Cannascam" when in fact we're talking about a decentralized peer-2-peer software is silly. The complete information/announcements about this coin has been transparent and open since day 1. You'd have a hard time proving a scam other then you're opinions of what the vision of this coin is, if that's the case you should take a look around at some of the other cryptos out there
 
Demo you were banned for your threats and aggression towards other members on the boards(not to mention your previous bans, didn't you learn?). And Lem you were banned for your derogatory slurs, regardless of how upset or angry you may have been it is NEVER ok to use that type of bigotry on NWGT. You're fully aware of the need to respect patents and those who are seriously ill, but you failed to respect homosexuals and others when you use that language publicly(im sure you seriously offended some of our members, including myself who will look at you different due to your choice in words). I sent you (Lemonhoko) a public apology about further revealing the information that was public and you've chosen not to accept it or respond to my PMs. Viewing the the nature of you're tag teaming with Scott/Fellatio I'm assuming that you don't want to accept my apology or work through the issue and get back your account and for that you're account has stayed locked at NWGT.  You also never apologized for your hateful and derogatory word slinging.

Gentlemen, your smear and fear is not new in the crypto world it's not the first time we've seen this with BTC/CCN etc. The attacks and fear mongering surrounding the technology has been happening since it's inception and this community is fully aware of the tactics used by people like yourself and the news media. Everyone here is also fully aware of the risks of having a wallet compromised by a "hacker" however, it sounds like now you're trying to turn around your original statement of "the devs can access anyones wallets and clean them out" into "WARNING WALLETS ARENT SAFE, HACKERZZ!". Please do some due diligence, everyone here is fully aware of the risk of crypto and the potential for theft... just as the wallet in your back pocket is open to physical theft except with crypto you're able to encrypt and protect yourself if someone was to snoop and get a copy.

Any user that signs and uses your website now...since Cannacoin icon has been added, can be involved with federally illegal drug activity and open to RICO act,...I can not believe you are taking the responsibitly to expose 16000 members to potential arrest or involvement via RICO act.
SILK ROAD involved other drugs..and cannabis...but you fail to remember that cannabis is still considered a schedule 1 drug by the feds.
What info do you have that makes you feel safe and think the feds will not be concerned about this..??.I would like to know.

Like I said Peezor..this should have been researched and documentation from a REAL attorney posted.

Have you contacted Aaron Pelly or any of the other high profile cannabis attorneys for advice on launching your cannacoin?
Do you not think it is your responsibility to insure your current population at NWGT is not at risk from federal prosecution or investigation?

You are not a lawyer..and neither am I...but when you risk that many people on your personal venture, you better get it right.
Either you will be known for the maker of cannacoin, or you will be knbown as the person that helped bring Medcial cannabis to her knees via federal force.


Oh..and since Im still banned and cannot access my content or private messages on your board,. your apology to me holds no weight. I broke no forum rules but you ban me?

And if yoiu ban me.,..please delete my account all the way..so my patients and friends do not see my name on your user list and have the impression I still visit your site.

I hope you forward some legal text concerning the merger of cannacoin and cannabis to the population, from a qualified attorney...its the least you can do to be responsible for this move,


~Lem

Just to be clear as I've now had to reiterate this probably a dozen of times now:

The statement that users are AUTOMATICALLY created Cannacoin addresses on NWGT is simply false. No one is able to send you Cannacoins without your consent UNLESS you specifically give them an address/location to send them to.

Regarding the icon, I've also pointed how this system currently works for others on NWGT and how there will be changes over time that will remove this icon for users who are already NOT participating. This implementation is a process and will modified over time, right now the icon has no use unless you enable it by adding your address under the profile settings.

Scott,

Give us a chance to work the kinks out.  We are only just now learning how to customize the vBulletin platform and integrating everything with a cryptocurrency is something that's never been done before.

In addition, give Peezor a chance to figure out how to give users customization abilities for this feature.  It's not as simple as adding a "Yes" or "No" button.

I can guarantee you that all of your concerns and the concerns of others are heard and all of our plans include addressing those concerns while not abandoning the project.

Cheers,
Patrick

 I don't know either of you, and i can only guess the type of people you are based on what you post. So...about what your saying in the beginning of this quoted post. Respect is earned and if you demand respect you have to also give respect too! Treat others how you would like to be treated, and if he truly is a Vet then I say thanks for serving! I salute you for said service. But also if anyone really wants to have change in their favor...being a dick and or posting much of the stuff I have seen either on this thread or on NWGT.org, honestly I just don't get how you really think any of this HATE that's been posted is going to change anything or come to some kind of compromise or even get your way. Last I knew peezor and his brother run NWGT.org...and in my experience saying such posted stuff tends to only make your goal impossible to obtain and turn you into a black sheep of sorts. They run NWGT.org so maybe if your pissed off at their changes of what THEY run...just leave and let it go, holding on to such anger is only going to serve to put you in the ground sooner from said stress.

I mean really you only got 2 directions to go.

This "trolling" and "flaming" will do absolutely nothing and end in nothing happening, a complete mission failed.

so then 1. Leave NWGT.org and maybe make your own or just leave it don't make your own website.
OR
2. accept the fact that adding a tip system isn't really all that "bad" or "evil" or whatever it is your thinking about it and Realize that peezor and his brother have barely any real control over Cannacoin since it is Decentralized after all. so personal opinions mean nothing since they can't actually  "screw" or "defraud" anyone with it.

Alex

P.S. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything here just stating my observations and what I've learnt in my life.

Thank you for the best wishes...and I truly mean the same to you.
My daughter is aware of this..she is not ashamed of me ..not the least. I am teaching her the value of family and having a father that loves and wants to protect her. I am not the one that needs to be ashamed of my acts.


Good karma to you and your loved ones Epiphany...


~Lem

My compassion is with her. I remember being 17 and if my father continued to use me as a weapon for some insane obsessive internet rant, I'd be angry and embarassed as hell about it. 

In any event, hopefully you run out of steam soon as none of this is healthy for the soul. I will now remove myself from this situation as I've no longer anything to contibute.

Best wishes.

If you are a parent, you will understand my feelings and anger about this...this act of exposing my daughter was less than 24 hours...and in the public apology he wrote..did you not read it?
Im astonished that people would not understand the implications of this act...this person was an ADMIN of said forum...not a regular user. he had my private information.
he hunted down pictures that were not even related to the situation... of my daughter and posted them...and you excuse this?
Please help me understand the compassion other than for the "coin" ?


~Lem

What I see is an apology and an unwillingness on your part to accept it. You are the one who keeps bringing your own daughter up as ammo in this silly war you refuse to end. That's more disgusting if you ask me. If you don't want her to be used as leverage, then stop using her as leverage for your own agenda.

I have not broken any forum rules..I have the same right to this platform as you...
This is on topic because of the nature of the coin and where they are implimenting it..


~Lem

Greetings..and thank you for your comment.

As a 44 year old female, Im sure you will apreciate the fact that these young "whippersnappers"as you put it, posted a picture of my minor 17 year old daughter on a public forum, endangering her safety.
I point this out, because doing this was an immature move and a lack of good judgment on their part. Are we to feel confident with these boys trying to tie their cannacoin project into a medical cannabis communty...mostly consisting of very sick people that can not afford the risk of Law Eforcment interrupting their lives?
They have shown poor judgement...proven by the fact of his public apology.

Your enthusiasm for your crypto-coin fellow community members is understood...but Im suprised that you would hold their character in a different light than what they have demonstrated.


~Lem

The worls is bigger then the USA, also good cannacoin works outside of the USA 
Man get a life, or go studying for laywer.. We don't need you copy/paste all kind of US law articles.

Either quit this coin or shut up please..

Schedule I controlled substances

Marijuana and its cannabinoids. Pure (–)-trans-Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol is also listed in Schedule III for limited uses, under the trademark Marinol. Ballot measures in several states such as Colorado, Washington, Massachusetts and others have made allowances for recreational and medical use of marijuana and/or have decriminalized possession of small amounts of marijuana – such measures operate only on state laws, and have no effect on Federal law. Despite such ballot measures and multiple studies showing medicinal benefits, marijuana nevertheless remains on Schedule I, effective across all U.S. states and territories.[26][27]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act



Sorry I had to put my thoughts in several posts...spamming was not intentional.
It was just how my mind works and how I found and presented this information.
Those of you that have read through my posts understand the seriousness of a venture like Cannacoin tied to an already established medical community., ..a community that helps supply needy patients with cannabis, a "drug"  the Federal Law Enforcement considers illegal and  schedule 1.
If the Cannacoin boys make ONE mistake..it could cost many lives and patients waiting for precious medicine, not counting the possible potential of Law Enforcement destroying more lives through arrest and court actions.


Thanks for giving me the time and bandwidth to voice my concerns.




~Lem

While the past few pages of this thread have been highly entertaining, as an idependent observer, it seems clear to me that the highjackers should chill out and maybe smoke some pot.  Ironic really.

Don't let yourselves become victim to fear, uncertainty and doubt when it comes to cryptocurrency or marijuana. The "powers that be" are losing the ability to control the masses. It won't be long now. Get on the right side of history instead of clinging to structures that are beginning to crumble because you are afraid or intolerant or very simply, ignorant of the changes coming.

There is some ageism happening here. You older gentlemen attacking the younger ones is classic of that. I am a 44 year old female who has spent much of my professional career in industries dominated by men, young and old, many of whom are so set in their ways that they are incapable of recognizing new ideas when it's right in front of their faces. So I understand better than most the subconscious or even conscious prejudices that make having a positive social network a real challenge.

I have read all of the posts in question, FYI, and it seems to me that the young whippersnappers behind Cannacoin (who happen to be brighter than most in the crypto community I might add) saw crypto technology as an added layer of value to the NWGT community and just went with it, mistakenly assuming that everyone there would see the good in it. Unfortunately, they were faced with a surprise revolt because they failed to take into account the perceptions of an older demographic who have earned respect in their own right. It happens but an attempt should be made here to halt the slide into the dark world of threats and innuendo. That serves no good purpose whatsoever.

We always have a choice in how to percieve things. Step back, take a breath, make an attempt to understand the other side and resolve this craziness. 

HOW FAR WILL LAW ENFORCEMENT GO?

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Today we are going to talk about the lengths that law enforcement (LE) will go to try and catch you slipping.

The thread that inspired this post was the following SR thread.

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/index.php?topic=8788.0

The first question is, can LE ship drugs to buyers to try and set them up for drug charges? Let us just say, that they have done it to a Silk Road user before who went by the name of Flush aka Chronicpain aka Curtis Green

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/07/vendor-administrator-plead-guilty-in-silk-road-case/3469751/
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    In April 2012, a DEA undercover agent in Maryland posing as a drug smuggler began communicating with “Dread Pirate Roberts” on Silk Road about selling a large amount of illegal drugs. “Dread Pirate Roberts” instructed [Curtis] Green to help the smuggler find a drug dealer who could buy a large amount of drugs, court papers say. Green found a buyer and agreed to act as the middleman for a $27,000 sale of a kilogram of cocaine. Green gave the DEA agent his address.

    An undercover U.S. Postal Service inspector delivered the cocaine to Green’s house in Utah on Jan. 17.

So as you can see, whether you view it as entrapment or not, once they have evidence against you, they will eventually figure out a way to get something on you and bust you for it like they did to Curtis Green.

The Secret Service posed as a vendor for fake IDs online for 5 years and actually shipped fake IDs that they made to buyers on an online Russian forum.

http://www.tested.com/tech/456882-how-secret-service-sold-fake-ids-catch-identity-crooks/
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    The US Government’s “Operation Open Market” resulted in indictments against 55 defendants. According to Wired, Special Agent Mike Adams shipped out more than 125 fake IDs over about five years of activity while going by the username Celtic. Amazingly, the entire scheme started when the government arrested the real Celtic, a Nevada man who got caught shopping at a Whole Foods where he’d previously used a fake credit card.

    Law enforcement discovered counterfeiting equipment among his possessions and learned about his online activities. Adams assumed his online identity and even improved Celtic’s cred, shipping near-flawless IDs and becoming a trusted seller on Carder.ru.

As you can see in this article, the Secret Service again sold illegal items to people online in order to bust them. Several of the buyers used their real addresses and sent real photos of themselves to this officer to have their IDs made, resulting in being arrested by the feds.

And in this particular case, the feds charged all the defendants under something called the RICO act.
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    “The main indictment is noteworthy because, in addition to the usual mix of credit card fraud and false identification charges, the 39 defendants have been charged under the mob-busting RICO act – a first for a cybercrime prosecution.

    Enacted in 1970 to help the FBI crack down on the mafia, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act lets the feds hold every member of a criminal organization individually responsible for the actions of the group as a whole. The losses collectively inflicted by the Carder.su members are easily enough to give every RICO defendant 20 years in prison.”

When you commit crimes online, especially in an online community, the feds may be able to hold you accountable for the actions of other users on that same community. So make sure when you do your freedom fighting, or whatever you choose to do, that you take this into considering. Always weigh out the worst case scenario, should you get busted, because the LE will try and set you up.

One last example of how LE will try and set you up, but not relating to online communities is when they put together a fake sweepstakes in Los Angeles.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/La-Mirada-Inspired-by-the-Simpsons-to-Catch-Criminals-78093912.html
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    Sheriff’s deputies in La Mirada attempted a rope-a-dope on some alleged criminals by offering them a fake sweepstakes prize. Out of the 960 letters sent to these “people of interest” only eight showed up at the La Mirada Holiday Inn to collect their prize, according to the Whittier Daily News.

    Posing as the “Pelican Marketing Group,” deputies sent letters last week to people throughout the county wanted in connection with crimes ranging from misdemeanor warrants to murder.

    According to the report, the suspects were advised to bring their letter and identification to the Holiday Inn, and told that they were guaranteed a prize worth at least $100, and would be one of 200 people with a chance to win a 2010 BMW 238i sedan.

    They were all smiles when they showed up to collect their prizes, Deputy Janet Ramirez told the newspaper. “Once they tell them they’re under arrest, the smile fades quickly,” she said.

So the reason I made this post, was for those of you who think that LE will not go to certain lengths to try and set you up for charges. They will do it if they want you bad enough, and if you fall for it, they might get you on some tough charges. Curtis Green is facing up to 40 years for the sting operation by the DEA on him and the users who purchased fake IDs on the Russian forum could face up to 20 years each since they can be charged under the RICO act. Always keep these things in mind when conducting activities online and always take the worst case scenario into account.

It only takes one mistake to get caught and the government has unlimited resources and super computers to try and catch you slipping. You may only have a few laptops, desktops, servers, but nothing compared to the what they have. Be careful everyone.


http://www.deepdotweb.com/jolly-rogers-security-guide-for-beginners/how-far-will-law-enforcement-go/

Hey Peezor, Jameson...the Cannacoin crew.
Have you  ever considered that cannabis is looked at by the feds as an illegal drug still?

Do you know what the RICO Act is?





Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)



Passed in 1970, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. It allows prosecution and civil penalties for racketeering activity performed as part of an ongoing criminal enterprise. Such activity may include illegal gambling, bribery, kidnapping, murder, money laundering, counterfeiting, embezzlement, drug trafficking, slavery, and a host of other unsavory business practices.

To convict a defendant under RICO, the government must prove that the defendant engaged in two or more instances of racketeering activity and that the defendant directly invested in, maintained an interest in, or participated in a criminal enterprise affecting interstate or foreign commerce. The law has been used to prosecute members of the mafia, the Hells Angels motorcycle gang, and Operation Rescue, an anti-abortion group, among many others.





RICO Act

 

§ 1961. Definitions

As used in this chapter

 (1) racketeering activity means (A) any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year; (B) any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code: Section 201 (relating to bribery), section 224 (relating to sports bribery), sections 471, 472, and 473 (relating to counterfeiting), section 659 (relating to theft from interstate shipment) if the act indictable under section 659 is felonious, section 664 (relating to embezzlement from pension and welfare funds), sections 891894 (relating to extortionate credit transactions), section 1028 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents), section 1029 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with access devices), section 1084 (relating to the transmission of gambling information), section 1341 (relating to mail fraud), section 1343 (relating to wire fraud), section 1344 (relating to financial institution fraud), section 1425 (relating to the procurement of citizenship or nationalization unlawfully), section 1426 (relating to the reproduction of naturalization or citizenship papers), section 1427 (relating to the sale of naturalization or citizenship papers), sections 14611465 (relating to obscene matter), section 1503 (relating to obstruction of justice), section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations), section 1511 (relating to the obstruction of State or local law enforcement), section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1513 (relating to retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant), section 1542 (relating to false statement in application and use of passport), section 1543 (relating to forgery or false use of passport), section 1544 (relating to misuse of passport), section 1546 (relating to fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents), sections 15811592 (relating to peonage, slavery, and trafficking in persons).,[1] section 1951 (relating to interference with commerce, robbery, or extortion), section 1952 (relating to racketeering), section 1953 (relating to interstate transportation of wagering paraphernalia), section 1954 (relating to unlawful welfare fund payments), section 1955 (relating to the prohibition of illegal gambling businesses), section 1956 (relating to the laundering of monetary instruments), section 1957 (relating to engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specified unlawful activity), section 1958 (relating to use of interstate commerce facilities in the commission of murder-for-hire), section 1960 (relating to illegal money transmitters), sections 2251, 2251A, 2252, and 2260 (relating to sexual exploitation of children), sections 2312 and 2313 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicles), sections 2314 and 2315 (relating to interstate transportation of stolen property), section 2318 (relating to trafficking in counterfeit labels for phonorecords, computer programs or computer program documentation or packaging and copies of motion pictures or other audiovisual works), section 2319 (relating to criminal infringement of a copyright), section 2319A (relating to unauthorized fixation of and trafficking in sound recordings and music videos of live musical performances), section 2320 (relating to trafficking in goods or services bearing counterfeit marks), section 2321 (relating to trafficking in certain motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts), sections 23412346 (relating to trafficking in contraband cigarettes), sections 242124 (relating to white slave traffic), sections 175178 (relating to biological weapons), sections 229229F (relating to chemical weapons), section 831 (relating to nuclear materials), (C) any act which is indictable under title 29, United States Code, section 186 (dealing with restrictions on payments and loans to labor organizations) or section 501 (c) (relating to embezzlement from union funds), (D) any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 (except a case under section 157 of this title), fraud in the sale of securities, or the felonious manufacture, importation, receiving, concealment, buying, selling, or otherwise dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), punishable under any law of the United States, (E) any act which is indictable under the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act, (F) any act which is indictable under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 274 (relating to bringing in and harboring certain aliens), section 277 (relating to aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter the United States), or section 278 (relating to importation of alien for immoral purpose) if the act indictable under such section of such Act was committed for the purpose of financial gain, or (G) any act that is indictable under any provision listed in section 2332b (g)(5)(B);

 (2) State means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, any territory or possession of the United States, any political subdivision, or any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof;

 (3) person includes any individual or entity capable of holding a legal or beneficial interest in property;

 (4) enterprise includes any individual, partnership, corporation, association, or other legal entity, and any union or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity;

 (5) pattern of racketeering activity requires at least two acts of racketeering activity, one of which occurred after the effective date of this chapter and the last of which occurred within ten years (excluding any period of imprisonment) after the commission of a prior act of racketeering activity;

 (6) unlawful debt means a debt

 (A) incurred or contracted in gambling activity which was in violation of the law of the United States, a State or political subdivision thereof, or which is unenforceable under State or Federal law in whole or in part as to principal or interest because of the laws relating to usury, and

 (B) which was incurred in connection with the business of gambling in violation of the law of the United States, a State or political subdivision thereof, or the business of lending money or a thing of value at a rate usurious under State or Federal law, where the usurious rate is at least twice the enforceable rate;

 (7) racketeering investigator means any attorney or investigator so designated by the Attorney General and charged with the duty of enforcing or carrying into effect this chapter;

 ( racketeering investigation means any inquiry conducted by any racketeering investigator for the purpose of ascertaining whether any person has been involved in any violation of this chapter or of any final order, judgment, or decree of any court of the United States, duly entered in any case or proceeding arising under this chapter;

 (9) documentary material includes any book, paper, document, record, recording, or other material; and

 (10) Attorney General includes the Attorney General of the United States, the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, the Associate Attorney General of the United States, any Assistant Attorney General of the United States, or any employee of the Department of Justice or any employee of any department or agency of the United States so designated by the Attorney General to carry out the powers conferred on the Attorney General by this chapter. Any department or agency so designated may use in investigations authorized by this chapter either the investigative provisions of this chapter or the investigative power of such department or agency otherwise conferred by law.

 

§ 1962. Prohibited activities

 (a) It shall be unlawful for any person who has received any income derived, directly or indirectly, from a pattern of racketeering activity or through collection of an unlawful debt in which such person has participated as a principal within the meaning of section 2, title 18, United States Code, to use or invest, directly or indirectly, any part of such income, or the proceeds of such income, in acquisition of any interest in, or the establishment or operation of, any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce. A purchase of securities on the open market for purposes of investment, and without the intention of controlling or participating in the control of the issuer, or of assisting another to do so, shall not be unlawful under this subsection if the securities of the issuer held by the purchaser, the members of his immediate family, and his or their accomplices in any pattern or racketeering activity or the collection of an unlawful debt after such purchase do not amount in the aggregate to one percent of the outstanding securities of any one class, and do not confer, either in law or in fact, the power to elect one or more directors of the issuer.

 (b) It shall be unlawful for any person through a pattern of racketeering activity or through collection of an unlawful debt to acquire or maintain, directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce.

 (c) It shall be unlawful for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce, to conduct or participate, directly or indirectly, in the conduct of such enterprises affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity or collection of unlawful debt.

 (d) It shall be unlawful for any person to conspire to violate any of the provisions of subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section.

 

§ 1963. Criminal penalties

(a) Whoever violates any provision of section 1962 of this chapter shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years (or for life if the violation is based on a racketeering activity for which the maximum penalty includes life imprisonment), or both, and shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law

 (1) any interest the person has acquired or maintained in violation of section 1962;

 (2) any

 (A) interest in;

 (B) security of;

 (C) claim against; or

 (D) property or contractual right of any kind affording a source of influence over;

any enterprise which the person has established, operated, controlled, conducted, or participated in the conduct of, in violation of section 1962; and

 (3) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds which the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from racketeering activity or unlawful debt collection in violation of section 1962.

The court, in imposing sentence on such person shall order, in addition to any other sentence imposed pursuant to this section, that the person forfeit to the United States all property described in this subsection. In lieu of a fine otherwise authorized by this section, a defendant who derives profits or other proceeds from an offense may be fined not more than twice the gross profits or other proceeds.

(b) Property subject to criminal forfeiture under this section includes

 (1) real property, including things growing on, affixed to, and found in land; and

 (2) tangible and intangible personal property, including rights, privileges, interests, claims, and securities.

(c) All right, title, and interest in property described in subsection (a) vests in the United States upon the commission of the act giving rise to forfeiture under this section. Any such property that is subsequently transferred to a person other than the defendant may be the subject of a special verdict of forfeiture and thereafter shall be ordered forfeited to the United States, unless the transferee establishes in a hearing pursuant to subsection (l) that he is a bona fide purchaser for value of such property who at the time of purchase was reasonably without cause to believe that the property was subject to forfeiture under this section.

(d)

 (1) Upon application of the United States, the court may enter a restraining order or injunction, require the execution of a satisfactory performance bond, or take any other action to preserve the availability of property described in subsection (a) for forfeiture under this section

 (A) upon the filing of an indictment or information charging a violation of section 1962 of this chapter and alleging that the property with respect to which the order is sought would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture under this section; or

 (B) prior to the filing of such an indictment or information, if, after notice to persons appearing to have an interest in the property and opportunity for a hearing, the court determines that

 (i) there is a substantial probability that the United States will prevail on the issue of forfeiture and that failure to enter the order will result in the property being destroyed, removed from the jurisdiction of the court, or otherwise made unavailable for forfeiture; and

 (ii) the need to preserve the availability of the property through the entry of the requested order outweighs the hardship on any party against whom the order is to be entered:

Provided, however, That an order entered pursuant to subparagraph (B) shall be effective for not more than ninety days, unless extended by the court for good cause shown or unless an indictment or information described in subparagraph (A) has been filed.

 (2) A temporary restraining order under this subsection may be entered upon application of the United States without notice or opportunity for a hearing when an information or indictment has not yet been filed with respect to the property, if the United States demonstrates that there is probable cause to believe that the property with respect to which the order is sought would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture under this section and that provision of notice will jeopardize the availability of the property for forfeiture. Such a temporary order shall expire not more than fourteen days after the date on which it is entered, unless extended for good cause shown or unless the party against whom it is entered consents to an extension for a longer period. A hearing requested concerning an order entered under this paragraph shall be held at the earliest possible time, and prior to the expiration of the temporary order.

 (3) The court may receive and consider, at a hearing held pursuant to this subsection, evidence and information that would be inadmissible under the Federal Rules of Evidence.

 (e) Upon conviction of a person under this section, the court shall enter a judgment of forfeiture of the property to the United States and shall also authorize the Attorney General to seize all property ordered forfeited upon such terms and conditions as the court shall deem proper. Following the entry of an order declaring the property forfeited, the court may, upon application of the United States, enter such appropriate restraining orders or injunctions, require the execution of satisfactory performance bonds, appoint receivers, conservators, appraisers, accountants, or trustees, or take any other action to protect the interest of the United States in the property ordered forfeited. Any income accruing to, or derived from, an enterprise or an interest in an enterprise which has been ordered forfeited under this section may be used to offset ordinary and necessary expenses to the enterprise which are required by law, or which are necessary to protect the interests of the United States or third parties.

 (f) Following the seizure of property ordered forfeited under this section, the Attorney General shall direct the disposition of the property by sale or any other commercially feasible means, making due provision for the rights of any innocent persons. Any property right or interest not exercisable by, or transferable for value to, the United States shall expire and shall not revert to the defendant, nor shall the defendant or any person acting in concert with or on behalf of the defendant be eligible to purchase forfeited property at any sale held by the United States. Upon application of a person, other than the defendant or a person acting in concert with or on behalf of the defendant, the court may restrain or stay the sale or disposition of the property pending the conclusion of any appeal of the criminal case giving rise to the forfeiture, if the applicant demonstrates that proceeding with the sale or disposition of the property will result in irreparable injury, harm or loss to him. Notwithstanding 31 U.S.C. 3302 (b), the proceeds of any sale or other disposition of property forfeited under this section and any moneys forfeited shall be used to pay all proper expenses for the forfeiture and the sale, including expenses of seizure, maintenance and custody of the property pending its disposition, advertising and court costs. The Attorney General shall deposit in the Treasury any amounts of such proceeds or moneys remaining after the payment of such expenses.

 (g) With respect to property ordered forfeited under this section, the Attorney General is authorized to

 (1) grant petitions for mitigation or remission of forfeiture, restore forfeited property to victims of a violation of this chapter, or take any other action to protect the rights of innocent persons which is in the interest of justice and which is not inconsistent with the provisions of this chapter;

 (2) compromise claims arising under this section;

 (3) award compensation to persons providing information resulting in a forfeiture under this section;

 (4) direct the disposition by the United States of all property ordered forfeited under this section by public sale or any other commercially feasible means, making due provision for the rights of innocent persons; and

 (5) take appropriate measures necessary to safeguard and maintain property ordered forfeited under this section pending its disposition.

 (h) The Attorney General may promulgate regulations with respect to

 (1) making reasonable efforts to provide notice to persons who may have an interest in property ordered forfeited under this section;

 (2) granting petitions for remission or mitigation of forfeiture;

 (3) the restitution of property to victims of an offense petitioning for remission or mitigation of forfeiture under this chapter;

 (4) the disposition by the United States of forfeited property by public sale or other commercially feasible means;

 (5) the maintenance and safekeeping of any property forfeited under this section pending its disposition; and

 (6) the compromise of claims arising under this chapter.

Pending the promulgation of such regulations, all provisions of law relating to the disposition of property, or the proceeds from the sale thereof, or the remission or mitigation of forfeitures for violation of the customs laws, and the compromise of claims and the award of compensation to informers in respect of such forfeitures shall apply to forfeitures incurred, or alleged to have been incurred, under the provisions of this section, insofar as applicable and not inconsistent with the provisions hereof. Such duties as are imposed upon the Customs Service or any person with respect to the disposition of property under the customs law shall be performed under this chapter by the Attorney General.

 (i) Except as provided in subsection (l), no party claiming an interest in property subject to forfeiture under this section may

 (1) intervene in a trial or appeal of a criminal case involving the forfeiture of such property under this section; or

 (2) commence an action at law or equity against the United States concerning the validity of his alleged interest in the property subsequent to the filing of an indictment or information alleging that the property is subject to forfeiture under this section.

 (j) The district courts of the United States shall have jurisdiction to enter orders as provided in this section without regard to the location of any property which may be subject to forfeiture under this section or which has been ordered forfeited under this section.

 (k) In order to facilitate the identification or location of property declared forfeited and to facilitate the disposition of petitions for remission or mitigation of forfeiture, after the entry of an order declaring property forfeited to the United States the court may, upon application of the United States, order that the testimony of any witness relating to the property forfeited be taken by deposition and that any designated book, paper, document, record, recording, or other material not privileged be produced at the same time and place, in the same manner as provided for the taking of depositions under Rule 15 of the Federal Rules of criminal procedure.

 (l)

 (1) Following the entry of an order of forfeiture under this section, the United States shall publish notice of the order and of its intent to dispose of the property in such manner as the Attorney General may direct. The Government may also, to the extent practicable, provide direct written notice to any person known to have alleged an interest in the property that is the subject of the order of forfeiture as a substitute for published notice as to those persons so notified.

 (2) Any person, other than the defendant, asserting a legal interest in property which has been ordered forfeited to the United States pursuant to this section may, within thirty days of the final publication of notice or his receipt of notice under paragraph (1), whichever is earlier, petition the court for a hearing to adjudicate the validity of his alleged interest in the property. The hearing shall be held before the court alone, without a jury.

 (3) The petition shall be signed by the petitioner under penalty of perjury and shall set forth the nature and extent of the petitioners right, title, or interest in the property, the time and circumstances of the petitioners acquisition of the right, title, or interest in the property, any additional facts supporting the petitioners claim, and the relief sought.

 (4) The hearing on the petition shall, to the extent practicable and consistent with the interests of justice, be held within thirty days of the filing of the petition. The court may consolidate the hearing on the petition with a hearing on any other petition filed by a person other than the defendant under this subsection.

 (5) At the hearing, the petitioner may testify and present evidence and witnesses on his own behalf, and cross-examine witnesses who appear at the hearing. The United States may present evidence and witnesses in rebuttal and in defense of its claim to the property and cross-examine witnesses who appear at the hearing. In addition to testimony and evidence presented at the hearing, the court shall consider the relevant portions of the record of the criminal case which resulted in the order of forfeiture.

 (6) If, after the hearing, the court determines that the petitioner has established by a preponderance of the evidence that

 (A) the petitioner has a legal right, title, or interest in the property, and such right, title, or interest renders the order of forfeiture invalid in whole or in part because the right, title, or interest was vested in the petitioner rather than the defendant or was superior to any right, title, or interest of the defendant at the time of the commission of the acts which gave rise to the forfeiture of the property under this section; or

 (B) the petitioner is a bona fide purchaser for value of the right, title, or interest in the property and was at the time of purchase reasonably without cause to believe that the property was subject to forfeiture under this section;

the court shall amend the order of forfeiture in accordance with its determination.

 (7) Following the courts disposition of all petitions filed under this subsection, or if no such petitions are filed following the expiration of the period provided in paragraph (2) for the filing of such petitions, the United States shall have clear title to property that is the subject of the order of forfeiture and may warrant good title to any subsequent purchaser or transferee.

 (m) If any of the property described in subsection (a), as a result of any act or omission of the defendant

 (1) cannot be located upon the exercise of due diligence;

 (2) has been transferred or sold to, or deposited with, a third party;

 (3) has been placed beyond the jurisdiction of the court;

 (4) has been substantially diminished in value; or

 (5) has been commingled with other property which cannot be divided without difficulty;

the court shall order the forfeiture of any other property of the defendant up to the value of any property described in paragraphs (1) through (5).

 

§ 1964. Civil remedies

 (a) The district courts of the United States shall have jurisdiction to prevent and restrain violations of section 1962 of this chapter by issuing appropriate orders, including, but not limited to: ordering any person to divest himself of any interest, direct or indirect, in any enterprise; imposing reasonable restrictions on the future activities or investments of any person, including, but not limited to, prohibiting any person from engaging in the same type of endeavor as the enterprise engaged in, the activities of which affect interstate or foreign commerce; or ordering dissolution or reorganization of any enterprise, making due provision for the rights of innocent persons.

(b) The Attorney General may institute proceedings under this section. Pending final determination thereof, the court may at any time enter such restraining orders or prohibitions, or take such other actions, including the acceptance of satisfactory performance bonds, as it shall deem proper.

(c) Any person injured in his business or property by reason of a violation of section 1962 of this chapter may sue therefor in any appropriate United States district court and shall recover threefold the damages he sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorneys fee, except that no person may rely upon any conduct that would have been actionable as fraud in the purchase or sale of securities to establish a violation of section 1962. The exception contained in the preceding sentence does not apply to an action against any person that is criminally convicted in connection with the fraud, in which case the statute of limitations shall start to run on the date on which the conviction becomes final.

(d) A final judgment or decree rendered in favor of the United States in any criminal proceeding brought by the United States under this chapter shall estop the defendant from denying the essential allegations of the criminal offense in any subsequent civil proceeding brought by the United States.

 

§ 1965. Venue and process

 (a) Any civil action or proceeding under this chapter against any person may be instituted in the district court of the United States for any district in which such person resides, is found, has an agent, or transacts his affairs.

(b) In any action under section 1964 of this chapter in any district court of the United States in which it is shown that the ends of justice require that other parties residing in any other district be brought before the court, the court may cause such parties to be summoned, and process for that purpose may be served in any judicial district of the United States by the marshal thereof.

(c) In any civil or criminal action or proceeding instituted by the United States under this chapter in the district court of the United States for any judicial district, subpenas issued by such court to compel the attendance of witnesses may be served in any other judicial district, except that in any civil action or proceeding no such subpena shall be issued for service upon any individual who resides in another district at a place more than one hundred miles from the place at which such court is held without approval given by a judge of such court upon a showing of good cause.

(d) All other process in any action or proceeding under this chapter may be served on any person in any judicial district in which such person resides, is found, has an agent, or transacts his affairs.

 

§ 1966. Expedition of actions

In any civil action instituted under this chapter by the United States in any district court of the United States, the Attorney General may file with the clerk of such court a certificate stating that in his opinion the case is of general public importance. A copy of that certificate shall be furnished immediately by such clerk to the chief judge or in his absence to the presiding district judge of the district in which such action is pending. Upon receipt of such copy, such judge shall designate immediately a judge of that district to hear and determine action.

 

§ 1967. Evidence

In any proceeding ancillary to or in any civil action instituted by the United States under this chapter the proceedings may be open or closed to the public at the discretion of the court after consideration of the rights of affected persons.

 

§ 1968. Civil investigative demand

(a) Whenever the Attorney General has reason to believe that any person or enterprise may be in possession, custody, or control of any documentary materials relevant to a racketeering investigation, he may, prior to the institution of a civil or criminal proceeding thereon, issue in writing, and cause to be served upon such person, a civil investigative demand requiring such person to produce such material for examination.

(b) Each such demand shall

(1) state the nature of the conduct constituting the alleged racketeering violation which is under investigation and the provision of law applicable thereto;

(2) describe the class or classes of documentary material produced thereunder with such definiteness and certainty as to permit such material to be fairly identified;

 (3) state that the demand is returnable forthwith or prescribe a return date which will provide a reasonable period of time within which the material so demanded may be assembled and made available for inspection and copying or reproduction; and

 (4) identify the custodian to whom such material shall be made available.

(c) No such demand shall

 (1) contain any requirement which would be held to be unreasonable if contained in a subpena duces tecum issued by a court of the United States in aid of a grand jury investigation of such alleged racketeering violation; or

 (2) require the production of any documentary evidence which would be privileged from disclosure if demanded by a subpena duces tecum issued by a court of the United States in aid of a grand jury investigation of such alleged racketeering violation.

(d) Service of any such demand or any petition filed under this section may be made upon a person by

(1) delivering a duly executed copy thereof to any partner, executive officer, managing agent, or general agent thereof, or to any agent thereof authorized by appointment or by law to receive service of process on behalf of such person, or upon any individual person;

(2) delivering a duly executed copy thereof to the principal office or place of business of the person to be served; or

(3) depositing such copy in the United States mail, by registered or certified mail duly addressed to such person at its principal office or place of business.

(e) A verified return by the individual serving any such demand or petition setting forth the manner of such service shall be prima facie proof of such service. In the case of service by registered or certified mail, such return shall be accompanied by the return post office receipt of delivery of such demand.

(f)

 (1) The Attorney General shall designate a racketeering investigator to serve as racketeer document custodian, and such additional rack­eteering investigators as he shall determine from time to time to be necessary to serve as deputies to such officer.

 (2) Any person upon whom any demand issued under this section has been duly served shall make such material available for inspection and copying or reproduction to the custodian designated therein at the principal place of business of such person, or at such other place as such custodian and such person thereafter may agree and prescribe in writing or as the court may direct, pursuant to this section on the return date specified in such demand, or on such later date as such custodian may prescribe in writing. Such person may upon written agreement between such person and the custodian substitute for copies of all or any part of such material originals thereof.

 (3) The custodian to whom any documentary material is so delivered shall take physical possession thereof, and shall be responsible for the use made thereof and for the return thereof pursuant to this chapter. The custodian may cause the preparation of such copies of such documentary material as may be required for official use under regulations which shall be promulgated by the Attorney General. While in the possession of the custodian, no material so produced shall be available for examination, without the consent of the person who produced such material, by any individual other than the Attorney General. Under such reasonable terms and conditions as the Attorney General shall prescribe, documentary material while in the possession of the custodian shall be available for examination by the person who produced such material or any duly authorized representatives of such person.

 (4) Whenever any attorney has been designated to appear on behalf of the United States before any court or grand jury in any case or proceeding involving any alleged violation of this chapter, the custodian may deliver to such attorney such documentary material in the possession of the custodian as such attorney determines to be required for use in the presentation of such case or proceeding on behalf of the United States. Upon the conclusion of any such case or proceeding, such attorney shall return to the custodian any documentary material so withdrawn which has not passed into the control of such court or grand jury through the introduction thereof into the record of such case or proceeding.

 (5) Upon the completion of

 (i) the racketeering investigation for which any documentary material was produced under this chapter, and

 (ii) any case or proceeding arising from such investigation, the custodian shall return to the person who produced such material all such material other than copies thereof made by the Attorney General pursuant to this subsection which has not passed into the control of any court or grand jury through the introduction thereof into the record of such case or proceeding.

 (6) When any documentary material has been produced by any person under this section for use in any racketeering investigation, and no such case or proceeding arising therefrom has been instituted within a reasonable time after completion of the examination and analysis of all evidence assembled in the course of such investigation, such person shall be entitled, upon written demand made upon the Attorney General, to the return of all documentary material other than copies thereof made pursuant to this subsection so produced by such person.

 (7) In the event of the death, disability, or separation from service of the custodian of any documentary material produced under any demand issued under this section or the official relief of such custodian from responsibility for the custody and control of such material, the Attorney General shall promptly

 (i) designate another racketeering investigator to serve as custodian thereof, and

 (ii) transmit notice in writing to the person who produced such material as to the identity and address of the successor so designated.

Any successor so designated shall have with regard to such materials all duties and responsibilities imposed by this section upon his predecessor in office with regard thereto, except that he shall not be held responsible for any default or dereliction which occurred before his designation as custodian.

(g) Whenever any person fails to comply with any civil investigative demand duly served upon him under this section or whenever satisfactory copying or reproduction of any such material cannot be done and such person refuses to surrender such material, the Attorney General may file, in the district court of the United States for any judicial district in which such person resides, is found, or transacts business, and serve upon such person a petition for an order of such court for the enforcement of this section, except that if such person transacts business in more than one such district such petition shall be filed in the district in which such person maintains his principal place of business, or in such other district in which such person transacts business as may be agreed upon by the parties to such petition.

(h) Within twenty days after the service of any such demand upon any person, or at any time before the return date specified in the demand, whichever period is shorter, such person may file, in the district court of the United States for the judicial district within which such person resides, is found, or transacts business, and serve upon such custodian a petition for an order of such court modifying or setting aside such demand. The time allowed for compliance with the demand in whole or in part as deemed proper and ordered by the court shall not run during the pendency of such petition in the court. Such petition shall specify each ground upon which the petitioner relies in seeking such relief, and may be based upon any failure of such demand to comply with the provisions of this section or upon any constitutional or other legal right or privilege of such person.

(i) At any time during which any custodian is in custody or control of any documentary material delivered by any person in compliance with any such demand, such person may file, in the district court of the United States for the judicial district within which the office of such custodian is situated, and serve upon such custodian a petition for an order of such court requiring the performance by such custodian of any duty imposed upon him by this section.

(j) Whenever any petition is filed in any district court of the United States under this section, such court shall have jurisdiction to hear and determine the matter so presented, and to enter such order or orders as may be required to carry into effect the provisions of this section.




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Have you boys considered how RICO could be involved since cannabis is still federally illegal and now you are tieing a currency to it?
As soon as you applied the "cannacoin tip" button for cannacoin to the site,it endangered the whole community.
Not just the cannabis community...if the proper authorities try and tie your ventures here to this forum with what you are doing with the cannabis in Washington State, you also endanger the folks here.

This is a serious matter that you should have talked to an attorney ..and if you have, please forward the info and attorneys name here so we may double check and verify for own safety.

I will check back for a response.



~Lem

I want to say one..or maybe more things about my friend Demo, Scott or Mr. Ramiriz.

This man is a decorated war veteran. he isa special forces soldier that did his time for our country.
These boys Peezor and Jameson both know this.
Demo, Scott deserves way more respect than what this boys could ever show him...he is 100 times the man they are...and not only does his presense tell you this, but so do hundreds of patients and friends this man has all over the Northwest.
He is a legend in this community we used to call our karma community..Him along with people like Fishassassin, Bornon, Fab Man, Mr Bunnz, Kaya and many more Im sure I missed, are the real heros and givers in our compassion community.

I have been an active member of NWGT, the forum that Peezor(Admin) and his brother Jameson (Owner) run and is in question in this thread.
Over the last 3 years, Our community has been witnessed to many of our close members dieing and passing away....before I go further, for those that dont understand...we belong to a medical cannabis community...driven by people of all types...including the very sick, to terminally ill, to kids just trying to slip under the radar so they can smoke pot.


Sadly in this community we lose friends and close member of our forum. People we meet and associate daily..either on the forum or tinychat or other means.,..we develope close relationships..
And in doing so, we all felt the loss of a close friend that died of cancer or a family member. This is what drives most of us in this community....Except from the boys at the top.

I have seen Demo give away meds that would equal thousands of dollars for free...to the patients that were in need but couldnt buy from people like the boys that run the forum because they were short on cash.
The same time last week, I saw a thread from a patient pleading for meds so he could bear his pain from his spasming muscles, I see an add posted by Jameson looking for an ounce of meds to buy.., and Im sure it wasnt to volunteer any of it to this needy pateint.
Not once have I seen one of these boys post in any of the threads of patients asking for help...not once in 3 years.
But I can count countless times Demo, or any of the others I posted above offered their help and even put auctions together to help needy patients.

The boys that run this cannacoin operation are takers...simple as that. They do not help patients...all I have seen is self interest.

One more note...
I gave them free genetics hoping atleast some of the medicine would end up in charitable hands...nope...they have vids of the oil they made out of it..and post at the Thumb selling this oil.

Its a sad day when people like that have the reign to go anywhere on the net and belittle a finely decorated veteran like Scott....sad day indeed!



~Lem