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Topic: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? (Read 31429 times)

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Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?
NO, its a xcoin/darkxoin/dash major feature, the way evan sees it.
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His lawyers probably told him not to say anything... 

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Well, the community have spoken.

It's a little surprising (or maybe not) that Evan doesn't have anything at all to say about this.

How 'bout it Evan? Nothing to add?  Roll Eyes

What could he possibly add?

This covers his role fairly exhaustively (until such time as legal discovery commences and subpoenas start flying):

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.

From 6M$ - 13M$ in 5 h, Edufield did some lucrative work here!

Edufield is nominee for the Master Scammer 2014 award!
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Well, the community have spoken.

It's a little surprising (or maybe not) that Evan doesn't have anything at all to say about this.

How 'bout it Evan? Nothing to add?  Roll Eyes
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)


No he's does not regret. He made too much money to regret anything.

We need a fifth "Not Yet" option:

Duffield will regret the instamine and the money he made from it, when FinCEN takes it all away and fines him for running a HYIP and MSB.


One can hope. It's obvious what he did is illegal. It wouldn't be difficult to make a case for insider trading and fraud.



Insider trading? No man, not in an unregulated market. But he's still a scammer and if he did this is the real world he may be in jail.

THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC is registered in the State of Arizona, where Duffield lives.

As soon as someone who suffered losses from their "Masternode" HYIP complains, the process of bringing them to justice begins.

The market has priced in this risk, which is why DASH trades for the same price it did before the rebranding hype and ensuing dump.
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Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)


No he's does not regret. He made too much money to regret anything.

We need a fifth "Not Yet" option:

Duffield will regret the instamine and the money he made from it, when FinCEN takes it all away and fines him for running a HYIP and MSB.


One can hope. It's obvious what he did is illegal. It wouldn't be difficult to make a case for insider trading and fraud.



Insider trading? No man, not in an unregulated market. But he's still a scammer and if he did this is the real world he may be in jail.
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Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)


No he's does not regret. He made too much money to regret anything.

We need a fifth "Not Yet" option:

Duffield will regret the instamine and the money he made from it, when FinCEN takes it all away and fines him for running a HYIP and MSB.


One can hope. It's obvious what he did is illegal. It wouldn't be difficult to make a case for insider trading and fraud.

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Merit: 504
Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)


Does the community believe Duffield acted dishonestly in regard to the instamine?

Yes: 125  (72.6%)
No:  47  (27.4%)
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)


No he's does not regret. He made too much money to regret anything.

We need a fifth "Not Yet" option:

Duffield will regret the instamine and the money he made from it, when FinCEN takes it all away and fines him for running a HYIP and MSB.
hero member
Activity: 505
Merit: 500
Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)





No he's does not regret. He made too much money to regret anything.
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Does Duffield regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission?

Yes: 42  (24.7%)
No: 128  (75.3%)



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Dash don't need to publicise the launch problems...You and various XMR supporters are doing it for them!  


@AdamWhite:  I have never said you were a Monero supporter.

You have zero credibility.


You just made me blow coffee out of my nose.  You're funny.

"You and various XMR supporters."  I was careful to seperate you from XMR supporters in that statement.  Since I took you off ignore several weeks ago I have seen you state quite clearly that you are not an XMR supporter and I phrased my statement to reflect this.


EDIT:  It didn't take me much looking back at your message history to show that you used to either hold XMR or support the project.  What changed your mind about XMR if you don't mind me asking?





I did hold XMR for a time and got out during the BCX drama.

Why did you take me off ignore?

(sorry about the coffee)  Smiley

I only had you on ignore when you were filling the Dash thread up with posts so I could see the wood from the trees.  I took you off ignore to see whether you had any new evidence to back up your opinions and catch up with the Dash scam accusation threads.
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Outside of the current options, there is another possibility: there are people who seem to get unfair advantages, but never seem to consciously plan to cheat or harm another person to gain the most benefit for themselves--it just always seems to work out that way. Maybe Evan's just a subconsciously crafty individual and everything looks just peachy to him on the conscious level. We can call intuitive deception.
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Dash don't need to publicise the launch problems...You and various XMR supporters are doing it for them!  


@AdamWhite:  I have never said you were a Monero supporter.

You have zero credibility.


You just made me blow coffee out of my nose.  You're funny.

"You and various XMR supporters."  I was careful to seperate you from XMR supporters in that statement.  Since I took you off ignore several weeks ago I have seen you state quite clearly that you are not an XMR supporter and I phrased my statement to reflect this.


EDIT:  It didn't take me much looking back at your message history to show that you used to either hold XMR or support the project.  What changed your mind about XMR if you don't mind me asking?





I did hold XMR for a time and got out during the BCX drama.

Why did you take me off ignore?

(sorry about the coffee)  Smiley
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You, toknormal and the rest of the dashtards have another full day of scam defending tomorrow

Looks like someone was left short of toys at christmas.

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Rest up illodin

You, toknormal and the rest of the dashtards have another full day of scam defending tomorrow
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If you have nothing to prove then you should not have made that claim in the first place. You made the claim that you mined then, yet you're not going to show any proof.

Surely I can tell what I have done or haven't done without getting put on trial? Especially if there's no way I can prove it to your satisfaction. And even if there was, proving it doesn't carry anything positive for me, only negative.


You're a liar from this moment henceforth.

And you've been a butthurt troll right from the beginning.

Ok then you should not have made the claim initially. If you make a claim, expect to back it up with evidence. Since you can't/won't back it up with evidence then you are a liar.

I will also say that I took a dump this morning. I won't be digging up evidence of that for you to see however. Feel free thinking I'm a liar.

Taking a dump has no relevance to this at all. The point of it is that you were claiming to have mined early on, yet you have absolutely no evidence to provide to show that you did. Claiming to have mined a instamined coin in a thread talking about the instamine and defecating are two different things.

It is absolutely relevant to your argument. You're claiming that if I'm saying anything without backing it up with proof, I'm a liar. I just spelled it out for you using an example even you might understand how ridiculous your allegation is.

Proof of instadump including pics or it didn't happen!

I want a yardstick traceable to NIST in there!

Post the results in your signature so I know you did it instead of having to trod through your post history.

I would have preferred your scat to be passed through a calibrated flow meter, so I could get that data and compare it to other known instadumps.

Maybe you could relaunch?

LOL

On that note, good night guys. Even you, celestio. Dream a little dream of an instamine, and be happy for a while until yet another day dawns.
G2M
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If you have nothing to prove then you should not have made that claim in the first place. You made the claim that you mined then, yet you're not going to show any proof.

Surely I can tell what I have done or haven't done without getting put on trial? Especially if there's no way I can prove it to your satisfaction. And even if there was, proving it doesn't carry anything positive for me, only negative.


You're a liar from this moment henceforth.

And you've been a butthurt troll right from the beginning.

Ok then you should not have made the claim initially. If you make a claim, expect to back it up with evidence. Since you can't/won't back it up with evidence then you are a liar.

I will also say that I took a dump this morning. I won't be digging up evidence of that for you to see however. Feel free thinking I'm a liar.

Taking a dump has no relevance to this at all. The point of it is that you were claiming to have mined early on, yet you have absolutely no evidence to provide to show that you did. Claiming to have mined a instamined coin in a thread talking about the instamine and defecating are two different things.

It is absolutely relevant to your argument. You're claiming that if I'm saying anything without backing it up with proof, I'm a liar. I just spelled it out for you using an example even you might understand how ridiculous your allegation is.

Proof of instadump including pics or it didn't happen!

I want a yardstick traceable to NIST in there!

Post the results in your signature so I know you did it instead of having to trod through your post history.

I would have preferred your scat to be passed through a calibrated flow meter, so I could get that data and compare it to other known instadumps.

Maybe you could relaunch?
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If you have nothing to prove then you should not have made that claim in the first place. You made the claim that you mined then, yet you're not going to show any proof.

Surely I can tell what I have done or haven't done without getting put on trial? Especially if there's no way I can prove it to your satisfaction. And even if there was, proving it doesn't carry anything positive for me, only negative.


You're a liar from this moment henceforth.

And you've been a butthurt troll right from the beginning.

Ok then you should not have made the claim initially. If you make a claim, expect to back it up with evidence. Since you can't/won't back it up with evidence then you are a liar.

I will also say that I took a dump this morning. I won't be digging up evidence of that for you to see however. Feel free thinking I'm a liar.

Taking a dump has no relevance to this at all. The point of it is that you were claiming to have mined early on, yet you have absolutely no evidence to provide to show that you did. Claiming to have mined a instamined coin in a thread talking about the instamine and defecating are two different things.

It is absolutely relevant to your argument. You're claiming that if I'm saying anything without backing it up with proof, I'm a liar. I just spelled it out for you using an example even you might understand how ridiculous your allegation is.


So yes, you are a liar.

Still a butthurt troll.

It is not relevant at all to this because you saying you defecated doesn't undermine anything. Anyone can claim to have been mining at the instamine to make it seem less nefarious, which is what you did. You claimed to have mined then, but when I ask for any proof of you having indeed mined then. You give none, therefore you are lying. I don't think it's that hard to understand is it?

Is it so hard for you to understand I'm not going to post proof of me mining 277 and 500 coin blocks? There's absolutely zero incentive for me to do so. Only downside.

I have to take that with yet another grain of salt. I simply can't believe what you say if you make such claims yet post no proof to back up said claims. The only reasonable conclusion is that you're lying.

Yes, that is the only conclusion a troll with an agenda could come to.

K, so trying to separate liars such as yourself from those who actually mined is trolling...
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If you have nothing to prove then you should not have made that claim in the first place. You made the claim that you mined then, yet you're not going to show any proof.

Surely I can tell what I have done or haven't done without getting put on trial? Especially if there's no way I can prove it to your satisfaction. And even if there was, proving it doesn't carry anything positive for me, only negative.


You're a liar from this moment henceforth.

And you've been a butthurt troll right from the beginning.

Ok then you should not have made the claim initially. If you make a claim, expect to back it up with evidence. Since you can't/won't back it up with evidence then you are a liar.

I will also say that I took a dump this morning. I won't be digging up evidence of that for you to see however. Feel free thinking I'm a liar.

Taking a dump has no relevance to this at all. The point of it is that you were claiming to have mined early on, yet you have absolutely no evidence to provide to show that you did. Claiming to have mined a instamined coin in a thread talking about the instamine and defecating are two different things.

It is absolutely relevant to your argument. You're claiming that if I'm saying anything without backing it up with proof, I'm a liar. I just spelled it out for you using an example even you might understand how ridiculous your allegation is.


So yes, you are a liar.

Still a butthurt troll.

It is not relevant at all to this because you saying you defecated doesn't undermine anything. Anyone can claim to have been mining at the instamine to make it seem less nefarious, which is what you did. You claimed to have mined then, but when I ask for any proof of you having indeed mined then. You give none, therefore you are lying. I don't think it's that hard to understand is it?

Is it so hard for you to understand I'm not going to post proof of me mining 277 and 500 coin blocks? There's absolutely zero incentive for me to do so. Only downside.

I have to take that with yet another grain of salt. I simply can't believe what you say if you make such claims yet post no proof to back up said claims. The only reasonable conclusion is that you're lying.

Yes, that is the only conclusion a troll with an agenda could come to.
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