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Topic: POLL [IOTA ]- ICO 2 -Do YOU want to buy IOTA at a reasonable price? OR BIG SCAM? - page 7. (Read 6730 times)

legendary
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@cryptohunter
Have you bought Iota at Ico?

If searching for gold/ gems would be easy, everybody would do it and it would not have value.

Nobody is going to spoonfeed you information, the Ico was 1 month on BCT, lot's of time, totally transparant.

Investing in general and especially investing in crypto is a risk. Never invest more than you are willing to loose.

I agree, the ICO was there all of us know about it. Actually this argument is pretty much the same as in the case of NXT. The NXT ICO was open, it was here for a long time but only twenty some people was interested enough to invest some BTC in it. During the beta testing they also gave away a lot of NTXs for testers, for a while it was also sold between 100-300 sats here on BTT. When it later went to the moon a big bunch of people started accusing them with ninja launch and talking about fair distribution.
legendary
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@cryptohunter
Have you bought Iota at Ico?

If searching for gold/ gems would be easy, everybody would do it and it would not have value.

Nobody is going to spoonfeed you information, the Ico was 1 month on BCT, lot's of time, totally transparant.

Investing in general and especially investing in crypto is a risk. Never invest more than you are willing to loose.
legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
The funny thing is this thread confirms that most think it's a scam from the nxt people. Nobody thinks its okay to demand 3000% who will put their name to the poll. The rest want a 2nd ICO. Ha!

You are surely anti iota. Who else would bump this thread other than someone trying to destroy the project before it's off the ground.?

Come on be gentle on them. Let them continue scamming in peace on their own thread.

Now I've explained this to you you'll surely not post on this thread again will you?? I mean you were just confused and didn't understand this thread looks very bad for iota?
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Yes we know
We know how confused you are
legendary
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So after begging, and begging, and starting new topics that were... you guessed it..... begging for Iota to have a second ICO, now you call it a scam.

Pathetic

Begging and suggesting can be confused. I can only try and help the IOTA ico seem to make an effort at some kind of fair distribution at ico price not 3000% mark up. I tried to help them seem less scammy after reading the poll results showing 50% classed IOTA as a scam already before release.

Oh how kind of you .... did you vote?

It seems the other (I Own Tons Assholes  owners) people who voted they wanted to by at 3000% for some reason rather than pay 30x (seems unreasonable) didn't want to leave their names.

I wonder why?

Please keep replying here on this thread. I'd like to keep you talking to me on here all day.
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 So after begging, and begging, and starting new topics that were... you guessed it..... begging for Iota to have a second ICO, now you call it a scam.

Pathetic
legendary
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strange I see 3 votes for

I would pay 3000% but i see no posting here of 3 people??

must be owners of IOTA I guess. If not post who you are when you vote, if you vote for option 2 - that you want to pay 3000%



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wha?

This coin hasn't even reached the exchanges yet.  Wait until there is some liquidity, the price will come down.  What you are hearing is hype. 5 desparate guys trading in a very illiquid environment.  General economic theory at work here.
legendary
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OPTION 4 - (WILL BE MANUALLY UPDATED HERE ACCORDING TO THE POSTS IN THE THREAD)

Option 4 = I THINK IT'S OKAY TO BE CHARGED 3000% MORE FOR IOTA than ico prices.


If you want to vote option 4 then post in the thread you want to go for option 4.



Sadly I had to reset the poll because people were NOT following the rules. It was not designed for iota owners to say they thought it was okay to sell iota for 3000% to other people who missed the ICO. People were voting and not posting on the thread. Now if peope want to vote in favour of paying 3000% need just post on the thread that you think it's okay. I will manually update it and add votes to option 4.



CURRENTLY 31 OUT OF 75 VOTERS CONSIDER IOTA A SCAM!! - let's help them change their image and be fair to everyone. NXT2 is not allowed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1393703.120


If you vote no  and you  don't mind paying 3000% over ICO then make sure add comment and post that you voted that way in the thread so we can see you're not already an I Own Tons Assholes  hoarder already. You meant to voting you don't mind investing at 3000% ico price not that you want others to give you 3000% interest on your BTC..

Do you remember NXT - you know the coin that was sold to a handful of people for NXT to nothing?? 21btc for the entire amount of NXT

They then sold it to you guys for millions and millions of dollars (1000's  X THE PRICE OF THE ICO)

Cool idea hey?

Now they have always been accused of terrible initial distribution  on this board. This board is all us crypto folk have. I don't blame them for not going out in the world and forcing people that don't know what crypto or even bitcoin is into giving them their USD for a share. That is unreasonable and unrealistic. However, surely they could have done a little better with the distribution than just a handful of different people. (We think they were different people anyway because they have different usernames on this board)

Time passes and not many people were involved in crypto back then...compares to now....


Now years later the same people involved with NXT want to try it all over again. They maybe dumped all those NXT tokens and want more of your BTC.


OK here comes IOTA. Seemingly great idea almost like NXT something - ahead of it's time.

This time though they surely won't try and keep it all for a very very small selection of this board. I mean they wouldn't for instance have such a small group of investors that they can again try and sell it to you for example 1000X  THE PRICE OF THE ICO.

I MEAN WE WOULD NEVER FALL FOR THAT AGAIN WOULD WE???

NOT BY  THE VERY SAME PEOPLE???



This is i believe exactly what I think they are gearing up to do. It is not even out and they want  30X ico and the pumping and hysteria has not set in yet.

They will tell you as all those who want to have 1000X their investment will tell you . That you are complaining because you did not get any!! You're butthurt and sour grapes.

THEY ARE 100% correct.

But you have reason to be. This was not like you had a reasonable chance to invest and chose not to.

Do you think you missed this ICO because you don't like the idea of IOTA?
DO you think you missed this ICO because you just didn't notice IOTA?
It's your fault right??


Wrong - if you are regular on this board you WILL see IOTA being pumped and pumped and pumped very soon.  You won't be allowed to miss the PUMP i can assure you.


If you are running an ICO on this board you will more than likely follow 1 of the 2 possible scams options.


1. The good tech scam - like nxt has desirable innovation.

The  Insta - ICO.

Quick mention - kept to their thread little or nothing on main board (in nxt day there was only the main board)
You will get no pumping during the ICO at all. You will not hear pumping from the few investors or devs. You will miss it if you are not searching for it. There will be no open ledger of investors like with NEM or any of those.

Now that the ICO is over and the tokens are concentrated in say 1% or less of the board members hands the pumping can start. Even better if it's not on exchange. The longer the tokens are kept off of the exchange the better especially if the hype may be larger than the product can deliver. Keep pumping with minimal release from the few hoarders.

Soon you can demand and establish a crazy price. Already IOTA is 3000% higher than ICO and not even released. I discuss the token only not the internet of things promised that apparently depends upon successful completion of a processor beyond the scope of intel and amd.

If the intial distribution was fair and everyone had a reasonable chance to buy in at ICO like they claim. Then how it is that now they can charge 3000% more? Did a lot of people suddenly have a change of heart?? didn't want to buy for 30x less but now they do? very strange since it's not out.

This is NOTHING. 3000% is not enough no.....they will have you pay 100000% if they can.

The pump hasn't even started yet. Be ready.


2. The NO tech scam

the second kind of ICO scam is where there is no tech nor innovation and the pump is during the ICO after all these people want lots of investors they are not hiding to hoard. They want BTC directly and now not later on. There is no later on their product is a sham. They get the BTC now and run.


Should we all have a fair chance to invest?

Should we advertise the ICO in sig campaigns and give rewards for face book and twitter to get some real good distribution going?

Since we are unsure of the people running it should the second ICO funds be held by in multi sig accounts by well know escrows and released to the IOTA team as they progress and launch a working product??


I Own Tons Assholes.

I had a chat with CFB in another thread where he mentioned the use of purchased hero BTT accounts.

I mentioned that I thought it could be possible that even the few accounts that did enter the IOTA ico could have been purchased. I mean these could be owned by just one person. Imagine reducing the distribution from tiny to miniscule.

Expecting him to say that would be terrible right ?? at least pretend that this kind of thing would not be good for the project??

He replied to me it would make no difference because BTT was not important???


The only way they can pull a NXT on you all again and force you to pay millions for what each of them paid 1000x less is if you let them release it with this kind of distribution and buy it for the levels they can dictate by totally controlling the supply.

Vote to have a 2nd ICO with funds held by escrows - I have no issue with them having more funds if they bring tech worth paying for at a reasonable level. Not being shafted by their crafty stealth insta ico into a NXT2 situation though.

Vote and have your say. However keep to the facts and don't make personal insults.

We are discussing the fair advertising and release of a second ICO.

If you think the distribution should be widened and would like to have a fair opportunity to invest at a reasonable level not 3000% higher... then vote for a second ICO.



After voting I would like to invite you to discuss things we can do on BTT to ensure wider  distribution and just all round fair play on this board.



If you vote no  and you  don't mind paying 3000% over ICO then make sure add comment and post that you voted that way in the thread so we can see you're not already an I Own Tons Assholes  hoarder already. You meant to voting you don't mind investing at 3000% ico price not that you want others to give you 3000% interest on your BTC..



Please in the discussion keep to topic and no swearing and profane language else it will be deleted. You should be able to express yourself without that.
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