Topic: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? - page 5. (Read 5228 times)

It's so tempting to post here too now, but I really can't get myself to read these walls of text. It always feels like an angry troll hitting his keyboard.

Maybe this will help: I have earned 4009 Merit until today. That's enough for 16 Supervotes for the DT1-election! Meanwhile, I have 17 users included on my Trust list. Several of them don't qualify for DT1 because they don't have enough users on their own Trust list. This means I give a supervote for all other users on my list, and I have Supervotes to spare! This means I can hand-pick users from my Rank up pipeline to enter them onto DT1! It's the kind of power theymos used to have before the changes to DefaultTrust, now handed to me
I'd should be exhilarated with power, if only I would care about it.
I expect a very long reply from ch nonetheless

yes in and out, I use you for slight pleasures on occasion, seeing how many ranty words I can get out of you. The energy you waste, how triggered I make you, how triggered the whole of DT makes you, Merit as well - all of it is fucking awesome to me.

I might type out 50 words to you, you hit me back with 5400..

also you are a Pajeet

we have hit the JACKPOT with this XLDIV ..... this new scammer supporting bitch of ours  is like xmas come early.

Well, you can surely see WHY some may be starting to believe you are our alt right?  I mean who else would REALLY present such a ludicrous and pathetic defense if they were not deliberately trying to drag these scammers through the mud whilst making up those kind of piss taking excuses and trying to divert with such hilarious comparisons and off topic garbage as if to make is seem totally RIDICULOUS to even attempt to defend their prior observable and undeniable scamming and other financially dangerous behaviors. Let's review just a few for old times sake hahahah ....

We have the xldiv police man scene that sums up his excuses to that point ..

start reading his moronic low functioning excuses for undeniable scammers here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52938521  OR just read our summary of his finest deranged slobbering and feltching scammer ass.

so far in the xlraelv police station.

alice = hi mr police man here is the video evidence and signed witness statements of others demonstrating the person living n the house next to me , punching me in the face, pulling me out of my car and stealing it whilst driving over my cat. He is a total scumbag.

xtraelv police man = well maybe they only did that because you kept moaning to us that they did that ??

alice = errr is that even possible? does that require some kind of time travel?

axtraelv police man = yes, now shut up with all the questions, anyway what I meant to say was  now that you called him a scum bag I can not really take you seriously you fucking bitch.

alice = you will ignore the video evidence and multiple witness statements and the fact he still has my car and my cat is dead? because i correctly described him as a scumbag?

xtraelv police man = same old accusations i heard before from you a min ago ..boring

alice = well some may say that is undeniable evidence, I mean even the thief does not deny it because he knows it is all recorded and 100s of people witnessed it, the cat is still there squashed and my car is gone

xtraelv police man = well what I meant to say is you have not reported a crime before so I can not believe you nor take your advice on what constitutes a crime can I now.

alice = well what would be worthy of reporting and how many things would I have to report before you can accept a errr report? I mean how do you make your first report? how would that even work? if you had to make a report before your first report? is that more time travel?

xtraelv police man = well for a start I can't discuss any of that with you at this time, however I will say the person you are reporting helped me purchase a cheap car just a moment ago, so he is certainly not a thief is he, if he gets me a cheap car why would I give one fuck if that looked like your old car? he is very helpful and nice. I am upset to even listen to your slander and defamation. There may be some punishment for those crimes let me look that up whist you are still here..

alice = wtf

xtra elv police man = watch the langue please or you will be arrested, that is a serious crime you are committing, just put the cuffs on as a precautionary measure, put the video over there in the garbage disposal first though, I don't like going near that its very dangerous.

alice = so you will do nothing?

xtraelv policeman = well I said i will arrest you right, you see me getting the cuffs out don't ya? you call that nothing? you heard of defamation?

alice = NO will you do nothing about the thief who stole my car and killed my cat even though you have undeniable evidence

xtraelv police man = yes, I do plenty of things for him, we help each other out, and ....well as my captain says we need to forgive and forget everything except whistle blowing and reporting crimes (both untrustworthy and financially dangerous to other citizens don't you know)... come along quietly please don't want you slipping and smashing your face into my delicate fist again do we , you've already done that 5 x in the next 45 seconds. See how bruised my poor hand is going to be.


Next the immediate self debunking and hypocritical - how to make yourself look retarded -xtraelv is a pro in this field..haha

WHINES about our lack of empathy for other after clearly demonstrating he has no empathy
WHINES about ad hominem attacks right after conducting ad hominem attacks haha

THEN says when we point this out we are.....wait for it......  WHINING  hahaha - you have to kind of love this guy right?


Claims the systems of control are working perfectly as they should be...

then does not dispute it works this way

He says, well that because you don't understand  IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK LIKE THAT ... haha. Well yes the design is fucked and according to the design it is and does work exactly like that.  Brilliant I have no idea why anyone has the right to criticize it then since it is supposed to

a/ be wide open to abuse

b/ reward abuse financially

c/ reward abuse by entrenching your power to abuse more

d/ reward abuse by allowing low function slobbering bums to feel they have some value

e/ crush free speech and create echo chambers



Next we move on to the You dare not fight me you chicken the-one-above-all , everyone can see how terrified you are to face me

2 fighters

above all - I will fight you anywhere any place including RIGHT NOW.

xldiv - I want someone to hold my hand.

above all - okay I'm willing to go ahead just you and me,  or theymos can hold your hand

xldiv - You make theymos do it or I will have an excuse not to fight. I'm counting on him not showing xldiv thinks praying and hoping.

above all - okay theymos is fine,  or else let's just do IT NOW YOU PUSSY.

Xldiv - See everyone he is afraid of me and trying to get out of the fight.

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha  okay xldiv you just get more stupid


Worrying sexual references xtraelv sees in this piece of text .. where his little care bears are telling him is is winning and still a hero even though he is getting totally beaten up in our analogy of the 2 fighters. We are not sure what he is even seeing there to make any sexual connection at all, then asking us if they are children bears or midgets?? err okay

here is the text taken in the context of fight in public where the bears are ring side cheering him on with his mommy

"look the fact he is not actually giving you the death blow and allowing you to survive proves he is a total wussy and knows you would kick his ass xldiv, you are still our hero " says the little  care bears from meta...haha


here is what xtraelv has to say repeated referring to that

"Ewwwww that sounds like you are having a wet dream. I hope you didn't make a mess"

"Your homo-erotic fantasies involving bears is witnessed" - points to that text

"Your homo erotica involving small bears witnessed by everyone on here. Were they midgets or underage"

"Refused to confirm whether the "little bears" were midgets or underage. "


Errr sorry xtraPERV  but the fight is clearly just me smashing your face in inside the ring ( that would be in the analogy us undeniably destroying your excuses and scammer supporting specious arguments.  The little bears are you little friends you are plastering all over the thread and you avatar cheering you on telling you that you are winning clearly whilst is is undeniable you are getting the shit beaten out of you. With us being merciful and keeping you alive.

Were does the sexual part come from in your mind? why are you asking if these bears are underage? homo erotica with little bears?

You mind is damaged .... have you been taking those vitamins lauda hands out at these debauched DT sex orgies. Did they use your moronic scammer supporting skull as a space hopper outside on the concrete or something. Lots of late night chats with tman and vod??

Kind of worrying us there a bit XLPERV. Your parents keep you locked in the basement right? away from any other vulnerable ....err I guess creatures.


Asked xtrelv 3 clear and simple questions and he replied with a lot of garbage unrelated derailing crap ... we tried to extrapolate the answers but said he didn't agree with what answers we have presented.

1. Do you or have you in the last 3 months included on your trust list  lauda, tman or nutildah and do they include or have they included you in the last 3 months?  Please answer in full

tman and nutildah and xldiv   ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER ON DT

2. Do you accept that the purpose of negative trust is to place a warning of " financially high risk" or  " scammer"  ( since those are the 2 messages you get at the top of your threads if you meet certain thresholds theymos has set here for negative trust (old system) or flags (new system)). This is the PRIME and central reason for the negative trust and flagging systems. These are clearly theymos's intentions since they are his own words on the warning banners?

We thought he was trying to say YES  Presumably then xldiv says NO because he claims he is not happy with our extrapolated answer but will not explain




3. Is someone that lies or intentionally  deceives others for their own direct financial gain ..  a scammer and financially high risk? yes or no?

we presumed he meant YES with lots of excuses and other blathering on.    Presumably then xldiv says NO because he claims he is not happy with our extrapolated answer but will not explain [/color]


still refuses to answer them with clear direct yes or no.


Reviewed the undeniable evidence below and we provided XTRA help demonstrating tman trying to silence and punish OG for giving his honest opinion to other victims of the CON ( auction)


Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this)

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19349060 "

after careful examination of the undeniable observable instances of scamming xtraelv-scammer-supporter still says...

this is not financially high risk behavior - no red tag
this is behavior that is acceptable for a DT default trust member
this is NOT scamming it is simply making COMMENTS on an auction.

So xtraelv says you can scam people, deceive them for direct financial gain and that is simply MAKING COMMENTS ( keep to using words only though)


Now xtraevil says he has demonstrated clearly we are JUST as guilty as he is.  He says where he has avoided giving straight answers yes or no regarding his undeniable support of undeniable scammers who SUPPORT HIM on DT  he can clearly demonstrate we also need to answer his made up giraffe kidnapping and killing fantasies, so that makes him all okay because we ignored his pathetic moronic spew...

He does not deny or dispute this is where we currently are.

We and every member here is able to clearly verify for themselves that we have...

Undeniable observable instances that undeniably demonstrate TMAN auction scamming  = YES
Undeniable observable instances of you supporting TMAN on default trust = YES
Undeniable observable instances of xtraelv-scammer supporter making ludicrous excuses for scammers = YES
Undeniable observable instances of xtraelv REFUSING to answer yes or no if he thinks Tman is scamming = YES

* this is not even taking into account

Undeniable observable instances of self confessed trust abuse from tman colluding and protecting other scammers from whistleblowers.
Strong implication and evidence of extortion involving tman and other undeniable scammers
Undeniable shared trust inclusions between these scammers and xtraelv the scammer supporter



Xtraelv seems to be suggesting he has the equivalent .....let us see ... errr

Any evidence of us kidnapping a giraffe =  NO

Not quite the equivalent that this idiot xldiv is trying to claim hey??

So you see in his mind it is now time to create a parody to demonstrate how guilty we are and he is of course NOT A SCAMMER SUPPORTER AT ALL.

Then wonders why people are perhaps starting to wonder why he is our alt??? hahahahaha

But wait, we may get more red trust for saying people have said  that. That is totally red trust worthy and is not just COMMENTS ... the COMMENTS defense and the fact people have asked us that is of no importance at all. Red trust is coming  NOM NOM NOM.

Some people may though say is adding yet ANOTHER red mark to one already so RED ..really clear evidence it is not an alt??  I mean I am not saying they should even wonder about that, but some MAY wonder.

I mean a shockingly pathetic, ludicrous and funny defense full of holes and well ...just time travel etc whilst ensuring all the details are presented over and over and over of their undeniable scamming before just saying  THOSE ARE JUST COMMENTS ..... would be a cunning plan wouldn't it.  I mean clearly demonstrating any attempt at a defense of such undeniable scamming is HILARIOUS and TOE CURLING. hahahah

Then again according to other DT members, (perhaps ourselves some believe)  we would not even know if he is one of our alts would we, I mean with the multiple personality disorders other DT members claim we suffer from  etc haha,  so although we strongly deny this xldiv scammer supporter is our alt, and would be ashamed of impersonating someone this fucked up, and disturbed .... you must decide for yourselves ....LOL

I wonder what xldiv should say now, to make the undeniable scammers suffer even more.... hmmmmm...... he must secretly despise them , garnering all this attention to them and their scams





Tman just popping in whilst we are on ignore and he is never going to reply to us again on meta...hehe

Just to reaffirm that the only explanation for presenting observable instances of his UNDENIABLE SCAMMING is that you must of been the victim of errr well as you can see the sort of family issues TMAN and his DEVIANT PALS are fixated on.  I may tman have been touched by some small toy bears at night? does that count ?

Maybe TMAN believes the very wholesome FAMILY experiences he was treated to or perhaps how he treats his own family is the same recipe for creating SCAMMER HUNTERS and it is UNDENIABLE SCAMMERS.  

But no explanation by TMAN regarding his own undeniable scamming is there? explain it all to us TMAN how it happened, let us get inside your scamming little mind.

We hope you are not paying (well apart from with mutual DT includes and allowing xtraelv to be part of the scammer gang) for this defense xlperv is presenting to the board. I had some input with the little bears we suspect...haha

as I said before you clown I value your opinion as much as I do that of a 2 year old having a tantrum, IE fuck all - you mean so little to me and most of the forum so why on earth would I try to discuss something with you? you are suffering from many many mental issues, the only thing I would engage with you about is trying to find out where these underlying issues came from. School bullying? uncle fucking? did your dad touch you at night?

come on Just spill it - what has turned you into this retard?

More evidence of dishonesty. Clicking the link shows I did not say any of that.


The voices in your head are not "people". .

Nobody with half a brain would think that you are my alt. Don't flatter yourself. Advancing such rumor is pretending to be me and that will get you a definite scammer tag.

I have more than enough to show your consistent manipulation, falsehoods, blatant bias, perversions and narcissism.

I also have enough material to make it into an entertaining educational circus that people will read for years showing the deceptive methods you use.

The difference between the fiction you write and I write is that I label it correctly as fiction (and parody). I get shitloads of merit that I don't need (already well over the 1000 needed for legendary rank)  and you are desperate to get merit and get fuck all.

I cannot believe some of the things you wrote in the wet dream of yours. WTF ! It is hilarious. You have no shame. You really do need some help.

I'm sure it sounded so much better in your head. You managed to shit on yourself from a great height there. The-One-Above-All pigeon pooper.

It appears you are certainly an acolyte of suchmoon. Following the same kind of drawn out self denigration in public until is just about managing to utter more and more ludicrous garbage, making themselves look more and more pathetic and retarded.

I mean just look at the what he is claiming. It has reached this point.


We have presented undeniable observable instances of tman scamming in his auctions  AND undeniable evidence of (by his own words) he is supporting him on to default trust (the most trusted members on the forum) he is also in his own words saying that they do NOT deserve red trust nor a flag. He is also refusing after reviewing the undeniable observable instance of tmans scamming to answer yes or no to if it is scamming or not. He seems to be claiming that if you scam people using words that is just "Comments".

He then claims (in suchmoon fashion) that him making up some strange " we have kidnapped and killed a giraffe " with ZERO evidence to support this strange allegation is all he needs to prove that we are being unreasonable and making connection that do not really exist. LOL


Look you low functioning scammer supporting dreg

We and every member here is able to clearly verify for themselves

Undeniable observable instances that undeniably demonstrate TMAN auction scamming  = YES
Undeniable observable instances of you supporting TMAN on default trust = YES
Undeniable observable instances of xtraelv-scammer supporter making ludicrous excuses for scammers = YES
Undeniable observable instances of xtraelv REFUSING to answer yes or no if he thinks Tman is scamming = YES

* this is not even taking into account

Undeniable observable instances of self confessed trust abuse from tman colluding and protecting other scammers from whistleblowers.
Strong implication and evidence of extortion involving tman and other undeniable scammers
Undeniable shared trust inclusions between these scammers and xtraelv the scammer supporter



Xtraelv seems to be suggesting he has the equivalent let us see ... errr

Any evidence of us kidnapping a giraffe =  NO

Undeniable evidence of us ignoring his stupid claim that of course has ZERO credibility since he has no evidence at all = YES



I mean this on top of all his observably retarded excuses we destroyed that were laughable , and his foolish and pathetic attempts to claim we were afraid to debate with him LOL after demanding it take place with or without theymos holding his fragile little paw.

Now he says, I will build a parody to demonstrate how crazy and foolish WE ARE...........hahahahahahhahhhahahahhaha

Xtraelv our new fav scammer supporter on bitcointalk.  Also even better he seems to have no shame and no lack of energy to keep humiliating himself and his scamming pals actions over and over whilst bumping our very important threads.

People are already suggesting xtraelv is our alt.  Hahahahahahahaahhaha  well ? that would be telling wouldn't it.


Tman = still ignoring us I see. Tman come out and tell us your side of the undeniable auction scamming. You seem to be happy to let xtraelv humiliate himself over and over in your defense ??  that's not very kind is it??

Tman why don't you tell us how you were not scamming at all..... give us the under cover agents story about simply locating attack vectors in the current auction systems here for the future protection of others. I want to hear that one. hahahahah

you are aware that opinions are the same as arseholes everyone fucking has one, just happens to be yours are boring and long using repetitive language and are far from unique.

Cryptocunter you are just the village idiot who people enjoy prodding on occasion for some mild amusement, the effort and time you take for your posts is laughable seeing how little they sway anyone - your words are as useless as a used tampon

Everyone can witness that The-One-Above-All saw my allegation. Refused to answer yes or no. Refused to confirm whether the "little bears" were midgets or underage.


He had ample opportunity to reply and the consequences were clearly stated if he didn't answer immediately in the format that I demanded. Therefore I present it as an undisputed, undeniable admission of guilt.

I will now set up a self moderated parody thread "exposing" this filthy pervert. Creating local rules preventing him (also known as "we" or "us"), his alts or his cronies from replying to it. It will be an edutainment guide named: "How to spot the fallacies of a pigeon pooper."

I archived this whole disgusting thread. All the sick perverted references and insults you made. So I have plenty of material - even if you shut up, make another alt or swallow the tampon.

Dirty turds (especially when on "official" dirty turd list by the self appointed coprophile) will be invited to make their faecal vocal contributions



This perverted testicle voyeur that "likes" little talking bears to "watch" is under false the impression there is more than one of me.

Sorry - there is no pussy and weasel - just me (human). Too busy stomping on your sexy fluffy slippers that you mistook for me.

Quoting entire post as it is , just to demonstrate the scared little pussy xtraelv  REFUSES TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER TMAN WAS scamming on that auction thread or not.

What a scammer supporting scumbag. There really can be no clearer example of trying to avoid, derail, divert, and detract from answering that simple question.

This is going to be a brilliant rep thread for us so much material here. It is almost like a nutildah like trap he has put himself inside.

There is NO ESCAPE now from the term scammer supporter. This filthy dirty scammer supporting piece of shit is clearly defending scamming and giving all scammers on this board the opportunity to ridicule and laugh at DT and all authority here on this forum.

The FACT you refuse to answer yes or no was tman scamming in that auction but STILL include him on default trust and still say his undeniable scamming does not require a tag or flag is DISGUSTING. We will see to it this follows you around as any honest member who cares to see honest members protected from such untrustworthy and financially dangerous individuals will do.

We will make sure he has his own thread containing ALL the observable excuses, and faux defenses he tries to use to protect his scamming DT colluders.
It will be kept updated and your deliberate and willful supporting and defending of undeniable scammers will be linked to every post where it is ON TOPIC and RELEVANT.  

We will soon come to the thread and debunk all your other specious and low functioning spew. You are going to become one of our favorite bitches here xtraelv scammer supporter and colluder.

 We have demonstrated you are willingly and deliberately supporting undeniable scammers and will not even deny it in public with any kind of reasoning that stands up to mild scrutiny.

Fine you are a CONFIRMED scammers supporter now. You will not deny he was scamming there and you support him on DT and claim he is one of the most trustworthy people here, you claim his undeniable scamming is not worthy or red trust of a flag even.

Well done xldiv you just destroyed your own reputation.  The xtraelv-scammer-supporting-Just-comments-defense. This can be deployed in tons of fun places where it is on topic and relevant.  Brilliant fun coming our way hahah

Sorry for not indulging your kidnapping giraffes theory, perhaps when you present observable instances that demonstrate that it is undeniable that I did kidnap a giraffe I may indulge you further. For now that avenue of derailing desperate garbage is being closed down.

Although you are now a observable scammer supporter, we will still come at some stage to the appropriate thread to crush your moronic blathering and slobbering for some merit or favor scraps from your idols here (we prefer scammers AND THEIR PERSONAL DEDICATED THREADS to corrupt moderation but if the pickings are slim and the cowards in dt are hiding away you may get some further public thrashings from us) . What a sad pathetic little scammer supporting dreg you are. I would be ashamed to have you as an admirer ...YUCK.  Then again suchmoobs can't be so picky so she is likely happy to have such an energetic little scammer supporters behind her. Just look out if she starts toppling backwards. That is dangerous for little weak pussy's like you. She needs a real man or beast wrestler.... hahah

FICTION YOU SAY?? we will present only independently verifiable instances of truth about you DON'T WORRY. The DT's would be all over us for presenting anything other than the truth..........oh wait...no that's not how it works, they scream defamation when you tell the truth or ask questions regarding their observable behaviors they don't even deny...hahaha  - -

Anyway thanks for confirming you support undeniable scammers and place them on DT.  It has been fun. Stay with us though because we like all the bumps and attention our thread can get.  Although we have a nice new thread to focus on now. I think you will want to join us there too so that produces the max warning to the max amount of honest members before you support scammers who will scam them.

xtraelv bitcointalks finest scammer supporter, the only one that will stick around and demonstrate without doubt he is knowingly and deliberately supporting financially high risk scammers scam bitcointalks honest members from their entrenched default trust positions. What a net positive member we have here.

1) Where did you prove it was Hilarious&co that marked it as bad ?
2) It is clearly stated that:
was actually good advise. You should learn to shut up. "Used tampon" should not be taken literally - it is an insult.

You have claimed he didn’t enforce rules - rules that are actually don't exist. (The invisible giraffe) You didn’t present any verifiable evidence directly implicating Hilarious. (no proof of killing)

The only thing you can prove is that he has publicly ridiculed and insulted you, yourself and your alt.
(insulting the cat)

The reason I used an absolutely ridiculous analogy is because you are dishonest enough to try and use it as anything other than an analogy if I used a more realistic example.

So enough delays - last chance to answer the questions so I can write a far more entertaining piece of fiction than what you are going to write :

Were you aroused when you buried the the corpse of the kidnapped invisible giraffe ? - yes or no ? (This is a yes or no answer question only ! Everything else will be ignored)

Your homo erotica involving small bears witnessed by everyone on here. Were they midgets or underage ? (Choose one or both of the two)

Failing to answer immediately will be considered an undisputed, undeniable admission of guilt.

Last chance to give your straight answer. Now review the auction thread thoroughly and the OGnasty account where tman confirmed it was his coin to him later,  and tell me is tman scamming there yes or no?

You have read the admission by TMAN RIGHT

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19349060 "

Have a long hard look at it.

YES OR NO? please see how crazy it is to deny it in public, and simply call it commenting. Please help yourself here.

Last chance or you will NEVER LIVE THIS MOMENT DOWN, it is far worse that the foxpooping and SS (well perhaps) it could compare to the suchmoron self debunking and ludicrous statements ... "I'll make you famous"..

JUST COMMENTS scamming defense will be synonymous with you, whilst crying for theymos to bail you out..... we almost feel guilty and actually do just a little bit. Stop forcing us to do this to you. Do you really want to be in the spot light of blatant deliberate scammer supporting FOREVER??

Let it all be over now, and you can go hold your head up and not be looking for us over your shoulder laughing in your face, where it is ontopic and relevant for the rest of your time here. You are simply constructing your own demise. Time to leave your admiration of bad boys and join the good guys. You know the ones that are scamming people for financial gain??

The " xtraelv ONLY COMMENTS" defense for all undeniable scammers ( ON DT ONLY OF COURSE) . You will remembered for this more than any other thing here period. Each time it will pull in tman and the rest of this. We are like the real default trust hahaha

This is simply for the good of all members here, we are protecting the honest members against scammers and scammer supporters.

We will ONLY present observable instances, when they are on topic and relevant.

NOT SCAMMING - THESE ARE JUST COMMENTS.

Come on supporting undeniable scammers is only a temp benefit, you are destroying your entire future here. This is all being recorded for us to pull up at any time we like.  You know we like ... So you think suchmounds is hot, you think hilarious and co is all powerful....we get it .... but is it worth it??

Is tman scamming there in that auction...YES OR NO.??  very last chance  at this answer. Consider carefully if that is JUST COMMENTS??

WE ONLY WANT YES OR NO - you have had a chance to give sensible direct answer you keep trying anything to avoid.

Now we just want the truth please.... you can come to your very own compilation thread later if that suits you better? the one where it is all about you , observable instances ONLY. Your quotes, your excuses , your own " ONLY COMMENTS DEFENSE " of undeniable scamming, not even denied by the scammer himself because it is there clear in black and white.

I mean there is yet another level left.... you must accept it meets the criteria of scamming there is no other real choice. Then as you have already started preparing the SCAMMERS CAN BE ON DT AND NOT HAVE RED TRUST ....because .... err reasons debate.... perhaps you have more up your sleeve for that part.

Stop forcing your face into our heel on this undeniable instance..... there is no worse position than freezing the debate here for you. Accept that and concede.
You are humiliating yourself by squirming at this part. There is no point defending a position like this. Move to another position you "MAY" do better there.

Just say okay okay tman was scamming there on that auction I admit it was more than JUST COMMENTING like anyone can he is a scammer... but but but....then you bring in the politician that is great at all those other things you were starting to introduce.... we would like to move on. The more material we have for your thread the better.  Don't want you giving up at this very early stage.

Do not run away now, that would be crazy after all of your hard work. You have more balls ( and less brains) than 90% of the weasels that would have bailed on this point by now and hit the ignore button. We are pleased you are not that kind of pussy and weasel. Full credits for trying your very best to defend scammers and support their scamming actions as default trust worthy. You are a scammer supporting hero no doubt. I have no doubt legendary scammer supporter is really more appropriate. I will lobby theymos to add that extra text on your account for your undeniable contribution to scammers. THE xtraelv ONLY COMMENTS DEFENSE.

You've repeatedly said that all along. If it is undeniable then why are we even talking ? You are wasting my time.

What is undeniable is that you did not keep to the agreement to get Theymos to be an arbitrator and used every excuse not to follow through with it.
 

Whatever. You were always going to do that anyway.

I'm sure you will arrange it in a false and defamatory way so it says what you want it to say and obscure what I actually said.




It appears you have taken it as a compliment. 


FYI - It appears that most of the references and information is probably too difficult for you to understand. I post it so anyone rational reading it has an understanding of the issues and logic followed.

If you vote for a politician to trust you don't necessarily agree with all of their conduct or decisions. You choose them because you think they can do the job well. Same applies with DT.

I've long ago realized that "The One Above All"  is just another way of saying "Angry delusional pigeon flying overhead with chronic diarrhea".

LOL  Tman was NOT SCAMMING on that auction folks, he was simply commenting.  hahahahahahahahhahahahha

Passing the BUCK TO SUCHMOON AND HILARIOUS AND CO.... that probably is NOT WISE.

scamming = lying or deliberately deceiving people for personal financial gain or attempted gain.

Now go read the entire auction thread and ALL of what OG nasty presented as undeniable observable instances as it REALLY HAPPENED.

Then tell me again this is NOT SCAMMING this is just COMMENTING on the auction.  

REMEMBER THIS IS TMANS COIN HE GETS HIS PAL TO AUCTION FOR HIM WHILST HE DECEIVES AND TRIES TO INFLUENCE THE AUCTION, REMEMBER OG AT THE TIME DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THIS IS TMANS SECRET AUCTION...  

Look how he tries to deceive as the natural price the auction is reaching the price HE WANTS IT TO..

"wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"  

record low price....I would be snapping this up if I did not have so many???  it's his coin the scamming little shit.

NOW LOOK at his reaction when a member gives their honest opinion on the price and the investment potential of TMANS coin he is PRETENDING he would buy  LOL FROM HIMSELF if he did not already have so many.

Now look at him trying to SILENCE OGNASTY just for giving an opinion that these types of coin TMAN is pretending he would buy from himself...lol if he did not have so many??

Og says he thinks people should really get rid of them since already they are overvalued.  HONEST ADVICE TO INVESTORS LOOKING AT THE AUCTION.

Tman says then goes into a frenzy of personal attacks and other nasty insults JUST TO SILENCE HIM AND PUNISH HIM FOR GIVING an honest opinion.

READ THE ENTIRE THREAD, with the full knowledge this is tmans coins he is getting his friend to auction for him. I mean this is undeniable SCAMMING.

Now we have that if you scam using words  YOU ARE JUST COMMENTING.

hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I'm clearly saying xtraelv is a scammer supporter and making ANY excuses he can ..... he says this is the behavior of someone that he claims is one of the MOST TRUSTWORTHY people on the board and not a financial danger at all.  That is just that single incident....without tman being strongly implicated in extortion , supporting other undeniable scammers and willing scam facilitators and ADMITTING TRUST ABUSING THOSE WHO DARE PRESENT OBSERVABLE INSTANCES OF THEIR SCAMMING BEHAVIORS.

It is undeniable now that xtraelv is a scammers supporter. He is now claiming that he is influenced by suchmoon and hilarious and co. So this is supposed to take the responsibility of being a scammer supporter from his hands??? is that right??

So the undeniable evidence of tman scamming there is NOT scamming and is just comments is that what you are claiming?? there is no attempted deception for financial gain there from TMAN you say xtraelv .... I want to hear you say it.

Tman is scamming there  - YES OR NO FFS.

Hurry up you cowardly little snake.

This is merely the first fun stage. We will make a compilation of your finest statements here for your own personal thread.  This is just the start.

Do not run away now, you have come way too far.  

Tman himself does not deny the scamming...... hahahahahha or does he??? where is the undeniable scamming little tourettes poet???

ONCE YOU ARE PROVEN A SCAMMER SUPPORTER that simply opens up a huge new debate on meta.

IF A DT MEMBER IS SHOWN UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE OF SCAMMING (EVEN THE SCAMMER DOES NOT DENY IT AND OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE EXPLANATION) and they willfully and deliberately refuse to tag or flag, and even insist on claiming they are the most trusted members on this forum. THEN WHAT action should be taken by theymos??? I mean surely he can not allow DT members to openly say " welll yes my fellow dt pals which mutually include me are undeniable scammers I do not refute that, but we will just allow each other to scam whilst punishing other members for crimes that are NOT UNDENIABLE and there is not concrete evidence. Whilst we mostly all make sure we take the highest paying rev streams here and crush free speech.

I mean you are not denying it is scamming and just comments made to deceive for financial gain are you? I mean is this the salty spittoon approach where you just now try to change the universally accepted definition of words??

Tman was not scamming by deceiving people for his own financial gain says xtraelv... NO scamming, just pure default trust worthy behavior. Perfect for the default trust CV.

I know , what if he was simply testing the auction process out?? Yes that could be it, he was looking for flaws and possible ways to scam people during the auction process here, and was going to reveal to others how it is done? kinda like the secret agents thing with the extortion??  that sounds kind reasonable right?? i mean it worked once??

Perhaps he is testing out the trust system??? this is it , he is infiltrating it and he lauda and owlcatz are giving red trust to whistle blowers for reporting on their scamming (which they are faking to make it all seem more real) then when you and others start supporting their scamming ways, voting them on to dt, and accepting their inclusions to secure the top rev streams............THEY ARE GOING TO DO A BIG REVEAL... super secret agents and pull the rug on all you REAL SCAMMERS AND FINANCIALLY DANGEROUS SCUM who would think to support and enable such scamming for your own ends.

This is brilliant secret agents scheme.....perhaps that is your next excuse?? although make sure you mention you were one of the secret agents too and fully complicit just to create a more convincing honey pot trap??

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhah

So your final word on this opening part of the analysis of your use of default trust is that you can deliberately deceive people for financial gain, and silence those that dare to give their honest opinions to other victims of the deception, to give the best chance of getting max gains of out of the CON... and so long as you only use words, then that is " JUST MAKING COMMENTS"  and not scamming at all in your opinion, and since suchmoon and hilarious are supporting undeniable scammers you feel that helps matters for you??

YES OR NO that is what you are saying??


Congratulations the first DT to claim that if you undeniably scam people using words, that is simply commenting when his DT pals do it.

Other members though... don't attempt this " just commenting or just using words" defense, xtraelv-scammer-supporter may not accept that moronic excuse.

How does it feel to be a scammer supporter and revealed like this piece by piece??  This is just the very start, as we heap on MORE undeniable evidence it starts to get even more fun (for us).

Don't run away at this point,  we need you to stay here and finish this, then after we come and you can help us humiliate you over your other "proven" points. We will not be without you from now on. Which time zone are you scammer supporting on these days, we must have someone here full time to help you help us.

The xtraelv and the " it is only comments " defense. That can be applied by undeniable scammers nicely I think all over the board. You can support them all on DT and protect them against red trust and flags. You will are super net positive for this forum.

Don't attribute things to me that I did not say. Learn how to use quotes properly.




https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19286369

People can read the comment and judge for themselves.
Commenting on an auction is not auction scamming.

If I had to tag every shill on this site I'd have no life left.

In some countries vendor bidding is allowed. (Although bidding on your own auctions I find scammy)

Some of the old DT's have some bad habits. By setting a good example those bad habits  -or those that continue with those bad habits will disappear over time.

Some of the old DT's also have an invaluable amount of knowledge and skill.

The only person running away is you. Your posts consists of insults and assertions of your preconceived ideas You don't answer any questions or directly reply to any points made.

You may produce walls of words but you don't participate in any discussion. You don't interact - you just throw words at people.

You don't understand the rules (proven)
You don't understand how the trust system works (proven)
You don't understand how merits work (proven)
You don't know how to look up information on this site (proven)

It is just plain lazy. You demand and expect people to act as your unpaid servants. Take initiative and learn how things work before complaining about them or participate in the conversation by listening. Stop ranting and read what I've actually said with an open mind. You might learn something.

You can continue with your ranting and raving but it is your loss. The only one you are deluding with your nonsense is yourself and perhaps one or two others.

You don't address any of the points I've made - including the guidelines set by the forum administrator.

You are talking at me. You should be talking to me and listening to me. That is how normal people communicate.

I believe my moderate views and rational discussion has resulted in others taking on some more moderate views as well. The people I respect the most on this forum and whose views are most in line with mine are Suchmoon and Hilariousetc. If you categorize me the same as them then I have no problem with that.

I've proven that you don't understand the forum rules and try to censor people.

It also appears that you are unable to justify your conduct or position given the guidelines provided by Theymos. So you are attempting to hide it by hurling insults and distracting from the reply. Literally burying the evidence in bullshit birdshit.

Wow, caps, bold, underlined, red text - I haven't seen cryptohunter so agitated in a long time. Goes to show how little attention is needed to keep him happy - just someone replying to him is enough. Doesn't even matter much what's inside those replies, he's gonna make it mean anything he wants.

So although you seem to have just avoided presenting what we asked for .... and thrown in a bunch of nonsense that we will take apart piece by piece AFTER this examination of your actions and behaviors that are clearly ENABLING, SUPPORTING, AND BENEFITING from UNDENIABLE SCAMMERS.

Now BACK TO WHAT WE ASKED YOU PLEASE... YOUR REASONING AND EXPLANATION behind you including on DT an Undeniable SCAMMER (with other undeniable financially high risk behaviors and abuses)

Why XLDIV will you NOT DARE to present an explanation of the observable and verifiable auction scamming and explain why it is NOT SCAMMING and why you will not say it is financially high risk, not give a red tag/flag  BUT WILL RATHER CLAIM HE IS ONE OF THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY MEMBERS OF THIS ENTIRE FORUM??

STOP RUNNING AWAY from this EXPLANATION WE ARE ASKING FOR.

HURRY UP SCAMMER SUPPORTER or you will be on the dirty turds thread and have your own dedicated thread soon detailing all of these stupid excuses and now the RUNNING AWAY from presenting your reasoning on rewarding scammers and rather than punishing them.

YOU ARE ENDANGERING OTHER MEMBERS by doing so.  KNOWINGLY SUPPORTING SCAMMERS is  VERY UNTRUSTWORTHY and FINANCIALLY HIGH RISK BEHAVIOR.

HURRY UP SCAMMER SUPPORTER.

xtraelv-SCAMMER-SUPPORTER ... that is soon how you will be branded. The evidence is undeniable.

Tman is undeniably an auction scammer - You are undeniably supporting him on DT and CLAIMING his undeniable scamming is not  SCAMMING AT ALL, and rather  that he should be rewarded with a DT position and no red trust at all.  I mean we have not even got started with the extortion, trust abuse and supporting other undeniable scammers.... also the small issue of them supporting you on dt and your actions. We want to take you step by step explaining your reasoning on each and every part of it all. So we can see why you claim no tag or flag is suitable and rather they are the most trusted members here.

ALL is UNDENIABLE the observable instances are there and fully verifiable by any member. Go research folks.

Any further attempt to just derail this to... homo erotica of small bears, giraffe kidnapping and burial, hilarious and co's marking as BAD posts that simply state " shut up you used tampon" , or ton of other shit you are trying to derail with will NOT WORK. But is good filler for your new thread.

We will keep asking you to present your explanation and reasoning on you believing scamming people in auctions is not financially high risk behavior and is rather a good idea to include such people on Default trust and CLAIM IN YOUR OWN WORDS those actions do not deserve a tag or any punishment

LOL

STOP RUNNING AWAY FROM OUR QUESTIONS AND MAKING THIS ABOUT OTHER MODERATION ISSUES or anything else you are trying to hide behind weasel.

Pathetic sneaky little scam supporting weasel thought it could talk it's way out of being outed as an dirty scum bag scammer supporter.

Now get back to telling us YOUR VERSION OF THE AUCTION SCAMMING ...... and how it does not meet your standards for red trust or any punishment but is obvious and natural behavior of someone who is the MOST TRUSTED on the entire forum. hahah

We can't wait. MAKE IT A GREAT STORY PLEASE >>> you best excuses, best convoluted reasoning, best bear pics, best derailing, best scammer supporting tactics so we can pull them all to pieces over and over. All good filler for the bumps on your own personal thread.... Yummy.

xtraelv-scammer-supporter  = our current fav scammer supporting bitch to slap around with observable and undeniable instances of his own scammer supporting actions.  Almost as good as nutildah. He is doing what a lot of scammers do, they try to defend their actions but actually end up clearly demonstrating it was deliberate and willful. Just like nutildah actually. Like lauda too, I mean tman was always going to fuck up anyway and leave no room for deniability. I mean notice how tman is here on this thread and is not even disputing his auction scamming..... hahahaha

HURRY UP.


At least you have not run away from the thread ( that would be terrible) but how much more you can humiliate yourself before you run away we are not sure.
How much more of a public thrashing can your scamming supporting mind take?

Confess now that  it is impossible for you to spin his undeniable scamming into anything but undeniable scamming, ...be sensible ..no amount of sidetracking or derailing will stop us pressing for this to be answered, then onto the next points we have ready for you. We can hardly wait.

Do yourself a favor , check the initial post, investigate ALL the observable instances and then try again. Perhaps start excluding undeniable scammers, red trusting them and making sure you don't get pressured or tempted into being a scammer supporter in the future.  There's a good little bear.

How about that? ....

Your accusations against Hilariousetc and Flying hellfish are as reliable as the accusation against you about kidnapping the invisible giraffe and starving it to death.

Photo of the missing giraffe:



Your homo-erotic fantasies involving bears is witnessed here:





WTF was going on in your head when you wrote that !!!???



Proof of pleasuring yourself:


Insults to cats here:


In the meantime - not one denial about the kidnapped invisible giraffe. You've had ample time to deny it and didn't- surely that is plenty of proof of guilt ! It must have pleasured you when you buried the corpse - you sick fuck !

Were you aroused when you buried the the corpse - yes or no ? (This is a yes or no answer question only ! Everything else will be ignored)

In addition to that you have tagged no scammers what-so-ever or excluded any scammers from your trust list. You are the most corrupt of all ! By your own logic you support every scammer that has ever been on this forum !


On a more serious note:

I debunked it here and proved you made untruthful accusations and attempted to censor comments you didn't like:

It shows a complete lack of understanding of the processes here:




Most of the people on your list were on DT already with the old system.
There are currently 100 DT1 of which 3 are excluded. There are many more DT2
So it hasn’t been “taken over”.


None of the people in the OP have any benefit from receiving merit. They all had Legendary or Hero accounts when merit was introduced.

Some of them are merit sources and by giving merit to people whose judgement they trust it is spread to other users via the sMerit system. The way it was designed.

A legendary account receiving merit = no benefit.
Receiving more than 1000 merit = no benefit to recipient.


That is way the system is supposed to work.  People vote for people that they trust. There were no instant changes but I worked hard to ensure that DT’s were endorsed in the Russian and Turkish communities. Local knowledge and native language speakers from different countries greatly assist in detecting scams and cultural understanding and diversity.
Both Tman and Lauda listened to what I had to say and both modified their viewpoints but
I also recognize that they also have the right to have a different opinion than me.

I have not seen any evidence that the majority of people (excluding spam and alt accounts) disagree with the selection of DT. Only a small minority voices disagreement. Some refer to themselves in plural format and some of them are alts.


What you are complaining about is exactly how the system is supposed to work.


I’ve never participated in a signature or bounty campaign. I don’t like signature campaigns and recently when I audited a signature campaign it became apparent just how prominent spam and bounty scammers are.

I imagine that a reputable bounty or sig manager will give preference to people who they know to be reliable posters.

Being a business they have the right to choose who represents them.  
Anyone can become a bounty manager.


That is because they don’t trust those people. Local rules you made prevent discussing those people individually.



There is a right and wrong way to approach a situation. If you are relatively unknown and use abusive and emotive language to attack a prominent forum member using a method that does not follow the normal protocols then it is likely that that person will be ignored or ostracised.
That is how social norms work. Those that yell and shout abuse at those that enforce the rules generally get cast out.

If you only slightly the energy and the effort you would apply here with your countless and always the same contributions for more important things would help the forum more.
Always whining and complaining the same.
In the time you write you could also report 10 real spammers in different boards.

But your contribution to the forum is - 100 or pointless, nothing more.

And back on Ignore , you are a waste of Time.

Typical shit post from this slobbering gambling sig spamming dirt bag.

TLDR = If this is too long of a summary for the last 2 pages of public humilation of XLDIV the scammer supporter then tough shit. Get back to spamming your gambling/mixing sigs elsewhere

xl divs pathetic excuses including the requirement of time travel and other such garbage = we crushed them.

xldiv was asked 3 clear questions apparently he is unhappy with the answers that we tried to extrapolate from his slobbering and moronic excuses, sidetracking and  irrelevant garbage. We thought he was saying what we have put in RED  he is unhappy with that apparently so his answers are in BLUE now.

1. Do you or have you in the last 3 months included on your trust list  lauda, tman or nutildah and do they include or have they included you in the last 3 months?  Please answer in full

tman and nutildah and xldiv   ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER ON DT

2. Do you accept that the purpose of negative trust is to place a warning of " financially high risk" or  " scammer"  ( since those are the 2 messages you get at the top of your threads if you meet certain thresholds theymos has set here for negative trust (old system) or flags (new system)). This is the PRIME and central reason for the negative trust and flagging systems. These are clearly theymos's intentions since they are his own words on the warning banners?

We thought he was trying to say YES  Presumably then xldiv says NO because he claims he is not happy with our extrapolated answer but will not explain




3. Is someone that lies or intentionally  deceives others for their own direct financial gain ..  a scammer and financially high risk? yes or no?

we presumed he meant YES with lots of excuses and other blathering on.    Presumably then xldiv says NO because he claims he is not happy with our extrapolated answer but will not explain [/color]



XLdiv says presenting undeniable observable instances that are independently verifiable  = claiming someone stole and killed a giraffe when all the evidence they have is that insulted a cat.

XLdiv also is fully aware of the auction scamming of tman which he seem to not deny took place, is aware of the strong case of extortion but says he believes tman was just pretending to extort but was really under cover agent, is aware of the admission of tman for trust abusing whistle blowing on his scamming pal and DT include lauda, and is aware that Tman includes another confirmed scam facilitator nutildah , further he is aware TMAN includes XLdiv himself and has a clear motive for supporting scammers.  However, he says Tman is has not been financially high risk, does not deserve red trust or a flag, but rather is one of the most trusted members of the forum and should be on default trust.

If that is NOT what he is saying then we welcome XLDIV back here to detail which parts he DOES NOT AGREE WITH NOW...

OH YEAH, XLDIV HAS RUN AWAY because he claims getting his specious excuses and arguments correctly called out for scammer supporting and double standards garbage they are   is like being bested at chess by a pigeon apparently.

TL;DR: verbal diarrhea. I muted him a long time ago so I'm guessing here.