NOW he comes crying about ad hominem straight after his own derailing ad hominem gender and identity crisis speculations and fungi jibes. What a total idiot and embarrassment.
So after stomping xldivs mind into the dirt in public and pulling part all of his pathetic low functioning blathering and excuses for his friends undeniably dirty deeds and making fun of them to the degree he simply abandons them and moves to the next one.
You were boasting about it. Now you are whinging that I pointed it out ? You, yourself and I - please make up your mind !
FAILING TO MEET OUR CHALLENGE MEANS YOU ARE AFRAID UNDER SCRUTINY YOU WILL BE FOUND TO BE CLEARLY CORRUPT .
non sequitur
Failing to take action when there is no obligation to act is not proof of anything. Corruption requires "Mens rea".
The ONLY arbiter we would accept is THEYMOS
I accept Theymos as arbitrator.
However I see some issues for you.
1) Theymos has already outed you as Cryptohunters alt.
You
(cryptohunter) might've had some case for the trust system being broken if you had handled your initial trust issues with rationality and patience instead of absolutely losing your mind and throwing lies around, and even now I could imagine your red trust eventually being cleared if you were able to attain a stable mindset.
2) It is up to you to convince Theymos to judge it
and to prove he will be judging it. He is your suggestion. I accepted. Theymos decision will be final.
3) Theymos is on DT1 and has not tagged any of the people you complain about.
4) If you back out - it breaks the agreement that I just accepted.
Watch how we pull this 4 merits worthy post to pieces as we have done with every other post xldiv has created here. As we have noted in meta (when challenging scammers their supporters or the status quo in any way) find the merited posts and you find the net negative garbage.
So, clearly he has this the wrong way around (not surprising)
He WHINES about us having no EMPATHY and we simply demonstrate he is full of shit and is either lying or lacks empathy.
He WHINES about ad hominem attacks and we simply demonstrate he is launching ad hominem attacks
he is complaining first in both instances.
LOL, well that is the point, you claim that there is no obligation we have said the only accountability DT's have for clear double standards (blatant corruption and collusion) except to each other. What a sham of a system. Lol at claiming you do not understand that giving negative trust to an account seller on one hand but then including on DT an account seller and self confessed willing scam facilitator for pay ( who also includes/included other proven scammers and trust abusers on DT) is totally double standards and corrupt. Haha well unless you do not include nutildah on DT and in that case you can simply exclude him from DT and give him red trust.
Corruption requires "Mens rea". I hope bones does not hear you saying that.
Us saying we don't want nor require a 3rd party to judge the debate but would accept theymos does NOT obligate us to get theymos onboard with the idea at all. We said we will prefer to just have an open public debate. If you insist on having a 3rd party then we would accept Theymos.
We have no idea why if we are only going to be presenting observable instances and making straight comparisons why you need to hide behind a 3rd party. This is going to be fully transparent and public? there is no way to cheat is there lol?
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Theymos has CLAIMED that he believes we are cryptohunter. You say outed as if he has proven that the same person publishing these posts is the same person submitting posts from the cryptohunter account. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. Although it does of course bring into question WHY theymos decided on dive in on a thread of a member that has no scam accusations or pose no financial danger to any members and try to out them in the first place. Whatever server side information theymos has he has as he was intended to have. I mean we turned up in meta using the same pet names as only he gave people, claiming to be his stand in, and posting in a very similar posting style right? haha ... ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN ALTERED if we were not immediately wishing to be recognized as cryptohunter himself or a friends of his.
Other friends are possibly posting away happily on tor or other non related ip's on different hardware in different posting styles.
Further more the "accusation" by theymos that cryptohunter on being trust abused went and started spreading LIES has been debunked as false. The thread we created calling theymos to present the observable lies WAS DELETED. We let it go since we are not trying to pick a direct fight with theymos as we are grateful to him and this forum. We considered his FALSE statement as we considered his prior FALSE statements like dark is not a scam etc as a lack of proper research rather than a deliberate and dishonest attack. We hope now he takes some time to investigate and verify for himself that ALL of cryptohuters claims and evidence are 100% correct and fully verifiable. We are VERY critical of theymos's systems of control, we have VERY critical of his lack of proper research, we are NOT critical of his intentions nor of his politics in general since his posts/views are very aligned with our own.
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Besides which, everything inside those dotted lines are IRRELEVANT. If theymos provably and undeniably had demonstrated we were the satan himself. This would not mean that we can not present observable and fully independently verifiable instances here for public examination and have them compared to OTHER observable and fully independently verifiable instances here for direct public analysis. There needs be no deciding judge, the public can judge (not meta board scum (not that theymos falls into that category) and they can look forward to hearing you XLDIV explain...
" well yes, some people selling an account need to have red trust because they are clearly financially high risk even if they considered it harmless to do so, BUT my friend nutildah who was screaming for months that he was certain that selling an account was clearly EVIL and certainly facilitating scamming and that he was going to start his own thread hunting them down and making them pariahs THEN SAYS IF YOU PAY ME 0.3 BTC i will (by my own clear admission and own definition) become EVIL, willingly facilitate scamming. Then when people consistently point this out in a few years when I am busted, I will go back and edit the details of the evidence of that clear wrong doing that demonstrates I am clearly far more financially dangerous than just some bozo who sees nothing wrong with selling their account."
that is the stand alone THEN if you bring in that he was including on DT other PROVEN scammers who were in return including MR EVIL SCAM FACILITATOR on DT you start to see how your claims of the " bones defense " that you did not realize this is clear double standards and that you just happen to be colluding with these people and you yourself being included on DT by these same individuals and clearly a beneficiary of all of this collusion, double standards and back scratching.
You see these people are not just going to have to be judged on their own undeniable scamming and willing and deliberate scam facilitating for pay, you must consider clearly that they are COLLUDING WITH and supporting OTHER undeniable scammers and financially dangerous individuals on to DT.
What makes them EVEN MORE dangerous to the board on top of those other clear points is that they are now in positions of TRUST and control. Therefore can leverage that do do EVEN MORE damage.
You don't need theymos here to hold your hand. Take your public thrashing that we will hand to you like a man. Stop being a little weasel trying to GET OUT OF IT by blaming it on theymos not coming and being judge, this is clearly what you are counting on.
Hiding behind theymos's lack of willing to sort all of this out (hiding) is only making you look MORE guilty of employing clear double standards and being corrupt.
What have you got to hide??
Look we already started helping you with some of your weaker ones.. like account sellers, account buyers, people that say are deleting all negative posts regarding their project and not answering scam "accusations", people claiming other members are mentally ill (did you not just do that btw?) in your words makes them worthy of negative trust,
I mean I look forward to comparing these to undeniable instances of scamming, highly probably extorting and shady escrow, undeniable auction scaming, and undeniable instances of willing and deliberate scam facilitating for 0.3btc and editing the evidence, multiple instances on single members who all have colluded together with DT inclusions ...
I hope you start to see that you threshold for giving negative trust, and your decisions to give TRUST INCLUDES is going to be thoroughly analysed blow by blow and at each point you will need to explain your actions and reasoning.
As I have said we are looking forward to it greatly. Even better if THEYMOS comes to have a good old read give his opinions which again will be analysed in public. If not then man up and if you are confident these people in the initial post are not financially high risk and don't meet your high standards for negative trust but do deserve your TRUST INCLUSIONS....they you have nothing to worry about do you? stop being a little scared girl and come and face us for public debate.
Can't wait
***since we are never afraid of the correct course of action and to be fair... We will add that after examining his negative trust allocation (sometimes we can be a bit lazy on looking things up if we are not motivated to especially be interested in someone, we thought he had previously trust abused us, but that was some other more serious scumbag) his weakest negs do not even compared to red trusting whistle blowing like these other pieces of shit. However, still you must not be allowed to employ selective enforcement or double standard and get away with it. AND if you are adding them to DT then you have even more to answer for.
HURRY UP and get on with it.
Theymos we ask you hold his hand if he insists but even if NOT we want him to present his clear reasoning on every comparison and drill down on it for open and public scrutiny. There needs be no judge the members now and in the future will be the judges. If theymos says sure undeniable scammers, auction scammers, willing and deliberate scam facilitators also implicated strongly in extortion, shady escrow and undeniable trust abuse to silence whistle blowers are NOT AS BAD AS SOMEONE WHO BOUGHT OR SOLD AND ACCOUNT or said some people are mentally ill ....... then that does not make it true and I think the objective reader will still say that is bullshit (not current meta gang of course). But by all means have theymos here holding your hand if you want. We do not mind and do not care. We welcome it since he should also give HIS REASONING, not just spout out something observably incorrect then run off.
Let's go.
*** yes there is some spelling/grammatical errors.... don't have time to check every single word over... If you are unable to piece it together then likely your opinion and contribution or lack there of will not be crucial or missed. Just put your feet up and get back to the tourettes poetry appreciation thread. haha