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February 21, 2023, 09:02:38 AM
ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?
There's a lot of other factors to prediction that human intelligence will consider in addition to statistics available at his reach before making his prediction on the outcome of a game especially when betting on football unlike AI that would grant prediction based on advantageous stats from both team which has proven countless times that the team with the best stats doesn't always win. No matter how develop and improved the AI is it can't be compared to human intelligence so am not sure am going to give room for AI to be doing predictions for me in my gambling. Maybe other areas but definitely not depending on it in gambling.
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February 21, 2023, 08:53:02 AM
Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

I tried asking ChatGPT on this, but it won't answer as it is just a model, but you can analyze things like Garcia's previous wins, score boards, and anything else. It won't really tell your prediction, but you can gather data and compare both. meaning it is just giving you information, and you are the one who decides which to bet on or your prediction. But if this were utilized or optimized for gambling, then for sure it would be helpful, but for now, this kind of information is being censored by them.
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February 21, 2023, 08:45:41 AM
We also evaluate the historical data when making predictions about the results of the matches. If we manage to give the right data to the AI technology, I think we can get the best predictions about the match results. Of course, we will not always get the best results from him, but I think we can get close to the best results. I see such developments as positive developments.
I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.

Can help in providing details about players and teams, it will give percentages or chances of winning, but we all know that in gambling risk always present, even AI gives you 99.9% of chance to win that .1 percentage can still messed up with you. Though in someway, this information can add up while trying to sort your advantages and your potentials.

Gambling with AIs might help as long as you equipped yourself with right knowledge about the game that you are picking to bet.
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February 21, 2023, 08:02:51 AM
According to what I have seen of Chat, GPT cannot predict events, its programming indicates it, however the company that is developing it is creating a new version, I imagine that it is improved and that it has more options, what intrigues me is if You can make predictions, if this is the case it would cause people to go crazy, because games of chance and sports will be something that will give them a lot of use, for the good of many things, I think that you will not be able to make predictions,

This AI will obviously develop a prediction feature in the future since it’s natural language processor. It can be feed by a lot of data from the sports event and it can give a prediction based on the team stats. There’s no guarantee it will give you an accurate prediction but you can assure that it’s prediction is based on the statistics which bookmaker is using to provide odds on the sportsbook. This AI prediction is the best to spot error odds given by bookmaker since AI will never missed the analysis of data feed on it unlike bookmaker that doing the odds analysis based on the programmer setup.

but in the same way everything is a beta version, if they are working on this new update I think they will be able to do it until 2022, since it has information until 2021.

I believe you messed up on the year here bro. It’s already 2023. I believe only the accuracy is what being upgrade on the current version since the AI works properly with the basic Q&A when it was feed by data. I think it’s ability to browse the web to search for data and determine what’s fact and hoax is the main challenge for the developers on this current version.

Nevertheless, ChatGPT will not do magic for sportbook industry since it will just give the same pick which bookmaker marked as high potential winner. Also I’m sure sportsbook industry will be close incase an AI can really predict an accurate outcome since casino will not gonna let players bankrupt them.

I know, you have said it, only that the information that ChatGPT handles for now is until 2021, it is updated, but with respect to its information it is up to that year, it would be good if it could have information until 2023, I think that OpenIA does not It has been set like this, in fact for some countries the chatgpt is completely blocked and there is no way to enter, you just have to be in a country that is not prohibited and enter with a phone number from that country, if you have a digital number the Chatgpt recognizes it and does not let you enter or register, I have a friend in Spain who is already offering a 45usd plan from ChatGPT for having ChatGPT professional version, and I think he can't enter now, I don't know if it's because of something else or because of the number of users there are.

I don't know if in other countries it is still in beta mode or they are already demanding payment, but I think that since the gpt has not integrated many things, it may be that it lacks updates from now on, because according to the articles that I have read, they have it. prohibited in some schools in Spain, which means that children use it to do their homework.And if that is so, how can teachers do with this advanced tool? Personally, I still do not trust AI detectors because they are in the Beta phase, and I have noticed that some people in their way of writing are similar to AI, that generates controversy, because AI imitates even thoughts very well a human being when he is very logical and knows a lot about a subject.
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February 21, 2023, 07:29:00 AM
Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).

Hard to reply to this because you'll only get data points that in isolation won't provide any statistical significance to see if AI actually helps or not.

But that's how the human mind works, we are hooked to stories.

If someone tells you a story about how well the AI predicted one scenario, you'll believe it works great.

If someone tells you a story about how bad the AI predicted one scenario, you'll believe it doesn't work at all.

The thing is that our minds are not great to deal natively with statistics. We need math for that.

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February 21, 2023, 02:09:21 AM
Sorry if I'm a bit curious about this, but I just want to ask a question.

Did anybody here really tried to use AI (like ChatGPT, or any other) to predict the outcomes of certain sport? Is anybody here who are relying on AI predictions on sports? Like in Basketball, or Football or even in Boxing. A follow-up question. If yes, what is the accuracy of it? How many of those prediction are right?

My apologies about my curiosity, but I just want to know since I'm also involved into gambling (just recently).
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February 20, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
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I first off don't believe legitimate true AI really even exists, as there are truly no self learning programs yet (like you see in the movie Her or iRobot), that being said it can definetly help you make a decsion if you're stuck between which teams to pick, programs can run all sorts of numbers to try and help predict the outcome.  This is basically no different than Saber Metrics, which is highly used in Major League baseball, so much so it's in fact changed the game. Coaches and teams rely on this data to do all sorts of stuff these days. It doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps...the movie Money Ball explains how this started.

Yes, it's true.

The current AI is not a general artificial intelligence. It's simply a great conversation generator based on some training data.

This means that you should take any inputs you get from chatGPT (or similar) with caution, as many of the things it says are not even factual.

The problem is that it looks and sounds as if the thing actually knows what it's talking about, because it sounds authoritative, and mixed with actual facts.

Lots of fake news will be generated with this.
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February 20, 2023, 07:23:15 PM
I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.

To be honest, I've never tried using Al, so I can't speculate much about how artificial intelligence technology can be used as a reference for predicting the outcome of a match. as we know, artificial intelligence technology can actually help us solve complex problems, including making our work easier.

However, I really doubt if AI can be applied to predict a sports match, let alone to be a reference for gamblers. because IMO, sports are more complex, cannot be predicted accurately, there are no exact calculations like an algorithm. in fact we can only guess, even after a series of analyses. maybe, if AI is used to find all the latest information related to sports. I'm sure it's very helpful.

I first off don't believe legitimate true AI really even exists, as there are truly no self learning programs yet (like you see in the movie Her or iRobot), that being said it can definetly help you make a decsion if you're stuck between which teams to pick, programs can run all sorts of numbers to try and help predict the outcome.  This is basically no different than Saber Metrics, which is highly used in Major League baseball, so much so it's in fact changed the game. Coaches and teams rely on this data to do all sorts of stuff these days. It doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps...the movie Money Ball explains how this started.
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February 20, 2023, 05:30:44 PM
I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.

To be honest, I've never tried using Al, so I can't speculate much about how artificial intelligence technology can be used as a reference for predicting the outcome of a match. as we know, artificial intelligence technology can actually help us solve complex problems, including making our work easier.

However, I really doubt if AI can be applied to predict a sports match, let alone to be a reference for gamblers. because IMO, sports are more complex, cannot be predicted accurately, there are no exact calculations like an algorithm. in fact we can only guess, even after a series of analyses. maybe, if AI is used to find all the latest information related to sports. I'm sure it's very helpful.
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February 20, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
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As far as I know the AI is still having trouble generating the hands of people and soccer players, but I think that if the developers spend a little more time on this, and this issue will be resolved. And the faces of the generated people really are very harmonious and look real.

I'm afraid to even imagine what will happen when the AI will start looking for information on their own.

Yes, at the moment AI can't draw fingers. But the current problems do not matter if you see a trend and it is obvious to everyone. Today they do not know how, but tomorrow they will do better than any person, such is the reality.
As for the collection and evaluation of data, on the contrary, I really look forward to it. It will be very interesting to get a new point of view on what people have a certain consensus on (useful action in football for example), I think there will be many surprises.
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February 20, 2023, 03:04:33 PM
We also evaluate the historical data when making predictions about the results of the matches. If we manage to give the right data to the AI technology, I think we can get the best predictions about the match results. Of course, we will not always get the best results from him, but I think we can get close to the best results. I see such developments as positive developments.
I believe that AI can help you to predict outcomes but we should remember that in online gambling it is also run by algorithm, i think the accuracy of the AI is not that high in terms of this, and casinos might changing their algorithm now or using another strategy so the result will not be same 100% to  this predictions of the AI. We can also say that with the use of AI we can see some patterns but these patterns cannot be our assurance.
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February 20, 2023, 02:46:11 PM
The technology used on that AI program is something into a highest level.

That's the reason it can give predictions and speculations close to being accurate because it has lots of sources used to form an analyis.

In gambling related, if it's used as reference, nothing wrong on doing that as long as not totally relying all our bets with it.
Yeah, there is a strong AI wind right now that is getting bigger and bigger, people are acting as if this is such a normal thing because AI is looking better than ever, but the reality is that we just cracked a few ceilings and have a bit better AI and it's nowhere near the level where it can predict outcomes of games.

You can believe in that as much as you want, you can think that it is possible, but it is just not possible at all, it never will be, you will never know this result at all. Maybe a percentage of who may win could be given, but even a team with 1% chance to win could end up winning, it's not zero, it's 1% and that means there is a chance for it.
We can believe that AI can give us good predictions, but they never hold guarantees that they can be the final outcome. It’s still a trial and error method, so never make it a point that all your bets will be based on the answers given by AI machine. Those are merely predictions. It’s still best to use our human intelligence especially when risking our money in gambling. Although gambling should be more fun, but having more fun means gaining profits too aside from being entertained.
There were no statistics or numbers which does prove out that using AI on predictions could give out some good result or winning rate but pretty much sure that there are people who are already making use of it
just to prove out by themselves that it could really be that effective.Just like on what most people been saying that its not something that could really be relied upon.We dont know if it is really that something
worth on trying into because we know that strategic type of approach in sports betting is more sensible and have sense if human being are the ones who do make up their decisions
on where they would gonna bet and not into some AI where information is really just been stored up.
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February 20, 2023, 02:31:56 PM
The technology used on that AI program is something into a highest level.

That's the reason it can give predictions and speculations close to being accurate because it has lots of sources used to form an analyis.

In gambling related, if it's used as reference, nothing wrong on doing that as long as not totally relying all our bets with it.
Yeah, there is a strong AI wind right now that is getting bigger and bigger, people are acting as if this is such a normal thing because AI is looking better than ever, but the reality is that we just cracked a few ceilings and have a bit better AI and it's nowhere near the level where it can predict outcomes of games.

You can believe in that as much as you want, you can think that it is possible, but it is just not possible at all, it never will be, you will never know this result at all. Maybe a percentage of who may win could be given, but even a team with 1% chance to win could end up winning, it's not zero, it's 1% and that means there is a chance for it.
We can believe that AI can give us good predictions, but they never hold guarantees that they can be the final outcome. It’s still a trial and error method, so never make it a point that all your bets will be based on the answers given by AI machine. Those are merely predictions. It’s still best to use our human intelligence especially when risking our money in gambling. Although gambling should be more fun, but having more fun means gaining profits too aside from being entertained.
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We also evaluate the historical data when making predictions about the results of the matches. If we manage to give the right data to the AI technology, I think we can get the best predictions about the match results. Of course, we will not always get the best results from him, but I think we can get close to the best results. I see such developments as positive developments.
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February 20, 2023, 07:44:02 AM
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I also see this one to happen if in case AI will be features then casino owners will also take the advantages of using the same system to prevent bigger losses and suffer from bankruptcy, they will find ways for sure, they've got developers who also have that same knowledge to work with this emerging technology.

What do we expect from them, just letting gamblers to see a good advantage? For sure no! they will also do things that will let them to continue being in the upper hands.
There is bound to be technological competition between players and casino owners trying to earn money from gambling. And there is a possibility that players can win more matches because players can have more choices of matches to bet on. Casinos will try to develop technology that can prevent AI from helping players to get more information.

And it's very interesting to see it happen in the future after AI technology has been developed better than today. And maybe the casinos will still manage to keep an advantage over gamblers trying to win big bucks.
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February 19, 2023, 07:10:06 PM
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Due to the recent success of neural networks in areas (drawings, music, programming, etc.) where they were considered incapable of succeeding, the letter AI is now attracting everyone's attention  Wink
By the way, let me try to guess - your example is about processing statistical information? It seems to me the most obvious, because knowing the "digitized personality" of an athlete/team, you can more accurately predict its results.

Yeah, I wouldn't count on that information too much.

It's well known that current AIs basically hallucinate, so they will tell you facts with a straight face, making it sound all official, but in reality it contains lots of information that is simply made up.

I wouldn't rely on that kind of information, specially because it's hard and time consuming to fact check everything.
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February 19, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
AI generates answers I think based also on the indexed information by search engines so if it's possible AI may also collect from the sports pickers which the AI will search polls on sports forums not just depending on the bookmaker's odds.

But still, it's not a prediction that will give 100%. There are still upset fights that are unforeseeable by anyone. What would be surprising if the AI also gives you a calculation or cheats of how to win more money when you bet on different platforms.
When there are such limitations are still possible, I am not sure why this much hype is going on everywhere on all the products which are AI driven. When I tried openAI and I asked about future events, I got answers like future events are not covered. So, when these bots are running with the help of database, expecting predictions is complete foolishness and nothing else.

Honestly I do not have any plans to use any AI bots for my sportsbetting; I still believe into my own skills as per my past history and performances.
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February 19, 2023, 12:41:56 PM
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As far as I know the AI is still having trouble generating the hands of people and soccer players, but I think that if the developers spend a little more time on this, and this issue will be resolved. And the faces of the generated people really are very harmonious and look real.

I'm afraid to even imagine what will happen when the AI will start looking for information on their own.

This AI thing has been going on for a long time and things have been happening in the background that we will never even get to know in the short term, the news is viral, but that does not indicate that this is new.

By the way, who could win the dunking competition 2023 NBA Slam Dunk Contest (AllStars NBA); and it didn't hit the player who won, although in fact, it player was a complete surprise.

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February 19, 2023, 12:35:05 PM
Due to the recent success of neural networks in areas (drawings, music, programming, etc.) where they were considered incapable of succeeding, the letter AI is now attracting everyone's attention  Wink
By the way, let me try to guess - your example is about processing statistical information? It seems to me the most obvious, because knowing the "digitized personality" of an athlete/team, you can more accurately predict its results.
Was plenty surprised when a lot of AI samples generated realistic images. Not realistic drawings, but realistic images. I wouldn't have doubted it was a photo taken by someone else really if I didn't see that it was just AI-generated, I feel like just a few months back I doubted how AI can do this and that but now they've pretty much done a lot already comparatively speaking.

Also, I'd be plenty surprised if there was some sort of method that didn't need statistics to generate a guess. Generally speaking, most predictions made by people often rely on data, it can come from a lot of sources though and some may be incomplete or not but that's basically the basis for everything. Tbf I reckon an AI built on top of how bookmakers provide their odds can probably give out semi-accurate predictions already.

This was inevitable as the AI makes its generations of (whatever) better and better. For example, it is quite difficult to distinguish a fully generated person from a photograph of a real person.
As for predictions based on data, the real breakthrough will happen when the AI itself begins to collect them, and not just use the data sets provided by people/game protocols, etc.

AI generates answers I think based also on the indexed information by search engines so if it's possible AI may also collect from the sports pickers which the AI will search polls on sports forums not just depending on the bookmaker's odds.

But still, it's not a prediction that will give 100%. There are still upset fights that are unforeseeable by anyone. What would be surprising if the AI also gives you a calculation or cheats of how to win more money when you bet on different platforms.
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February 19, 2023, 12:28:34 PM
^

As far as I know the AI is still having trouble generating the hands of people and soccer players, but I think that if the developers spend a little more time on this, and this issue will be resolved. And the faces of the generated people really are very harmonious and look real.

I'm afraid to even imagine what will happen when the AI will start looking for information on their own.
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