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Quote from: blockman on February 26, 2023, 05:24:13 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 25, 2023, 04:37:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 25, 2023, 03:41:31 PM

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).

You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets. Tongue

Well regarding on accurate team to win maybe AI can really give the exact answer with that since the game result still unknown and maybe the unexpected result will came since sometimes their are luck factor need to consider even if the team roosters is lacking due to injuries of their players.

Maybe the least those AI can give is all the data's needed by people about the latest inputs about the teams and this could give us a basis if which one of then is good to bet or not. Injury reports is important and its really important to ask this since AI can generate answers regarding to this matter. But at the end of the day its up for us to listen or not since the main purpose why we bet is to enjoy, so good luck to anyone seeking for ways to win and think AI is the answer to increase their chance to win.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 26, 2023, 06:10:18 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 26, 2023, 05:24:13 PM

You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets. Tongue

maybe for curiosity sake, you can use this to test how reliable it is when it comes to bets. but using only small funds and see where it goes. but if it is serious bet with large money at stake, i won't use this app. still it is best to bet using your own instincts especially if you know the sports very well. they have limitations as to how much data they are being feed into.you may know some recent injuries of the athletes or missing athletes in the team that may contribute with the performance of the team that this AI doesn't have yet in their system.

No problem with that and everyone is free to do their own tests and experiments with that. And if it's good that it worked then you may proceed and keep doing it.
But if you've found nothing and frustrations, errors, and losses then that's the time to lose your optimism with it. We all are looking for ways to make our bets easier and absorb as many predictions as we can. Anything that seems to be helpful, we're too open with that but if it's not bringing good cause, better to leave it.

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Quote from: blockman on February 26, 2023, 05:24:13 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 25, 2023, 04:37:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 25, 2023, 03:41:31 PM

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).

You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets. Tongue

maybe for curiosity sake, you can use this to test how reliable it is when it comes to bets. but using only small funds and see where it goes. but if it is serious bet with large money at stake, i won't use this app. still it is best to bet using your own instincts especially if you know the sports very well. they have limitations as to how much data they are being feed into.you may know some recent injuries of the athletes or missing athletes in the team that may contribute with the performance of the team that this AI doesn't have yet in their system.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 25, 2023, 04:37:06 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 25, 2023, 03:41:31 PM

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).

You're right, that's the thing that it does and it just merges with all of the data set that's been collected whenever it's been asked the same questions and predictions again and again.
I think that we're still far from the top that it can where it can really predict things based on the data and news that it will search quickly. I'd just appreciate what it can do right now but won't be asking them on how to decide on things like my bets. Tongue

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 26, 2023, 01:42:22 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on February 26, 2023, 02:56:56 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 26, 2023, 02:50:51 AM

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

Exactly, AI can provide past performances but still not secure to win. Those are data that can be used to base your prediction, but the actual execution still depends on how you understand the game. It's useful in terms of trying to sort every opportunity and advantage from the player or the team that you wanted to support.

Along the way, if AI can really predict, then you are right with the tipsters. They will not be needed as AI already replaces them.

Yes, no matter how many informations would be stored out then it would be still really that stored on library which it would really be that helpful on some areas but it would be totally that not precise
for you to rely on predicting on future results which it isnt really that recommended but i dont know if there were people who do make use of it.

Its true that if this thing does works then all of us would really be that using it.Do we really think that it would really be that allowing for it to happen? with those bookies around?

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 26, 2023, 02:56:56 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 26, 2023, 02:50:51 AM

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

Exactly, AI can provide past performances but still not secure to win. Those are data that can be used to base your prediction, but the actual execution still depends on how you understand the game. It's useful in terms of trying to sort every opportunity and advantage from the player or the team that you wanted to support.

Along the way, if AI can really predict, then you are right with the tipsters. They will not be needed as AI already replaces them.

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Quote from: traderethereum on February 25, 2023, 10:39:02 PM

Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.

If the person is smart yes because they are curious and they are the type of person who wants to perfect everything even though we know that it's kinda unlikely. There are average type of person who is already contented on the sources they have but if that can't provide them the results that they are looking for, that would be the time they will drop it and look for a new alternative.

AI are great to deliver data which have already happened and they can base their predictions there. We humans will do the same before predicting so in order to speed up things, we will only use AIs. Double-checking might be needed if we are doubting or if it's our first time of using it.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 26, 2023, 02:56:56 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 26, 2023, 02:50:51 AM

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

I would not call it useless since betting on AI relies on the previous data and information. Such would be the basis on why the AI would be able to predict the outcome of a certain gambling activity. For example, if you use AI in predicting outcomes in sports betting, the AI would be able to use various information/data that would at least help and support your decision to whether to bet on Team A or B.

The only problem is when you completely rely on AI to predict outcomes. A person must definitely use predictions of AI as a supplementary tool rather than the main tool in checking your bets.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 26, 2023, 02:50:51 AM

But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

You're right. AI might give you the right stats, but it's not enough to make the right prediction. The purpose of AI is to give us information about the past, not the future or make predictions for us. Therefore, you are right, it's useless if we just base our bets on AI alone.

If AI is so accurate, then we would not see those people called paid tipsters. They would just vanish, knowing they are useless since AI has taken over their jobs.

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Quote from: traderethereum on February 25, 2023, 10:39:02 PM

Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.

In the end AI's result is completely useless because you will bet based on your own prediction, so there's no reason to use AI to predict the result. Actually there are a lot videos, forums and articles were discuss about betting tips for the recent sports event. At least you're know where you get that prediction and the result, when the bet goes different, you can avoid him. But in AI there's no way for you to know the original source or people behind the predictions.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 25, 2023, 05:04:25 AM

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And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

An essence of being wise, right? Maximizing the usages of AI while still working with other sources of information before deciding where to bet, it's truly a human desire to find more edge to have better outcome, but in terms of AI, still not that accurate as there are factors that AI can't predict as early as the game is not starting yet, injuries and the coach decision to rest and sit their stars.

Something that AI can't provide for you when you run the check. It's still you as human who can decide which player/team to bet
that have a good chance of winning.

Humans will search and keep looking until they can find something that can satisfy them even though they have used AI, but if that doesn't satisfy them, they will keep looking.
The superiority of AI might be able to get results quickly, but for now, it may not be able to provide accurate results, so we still need to look for info from elsewhere.
We should not leave the final decision to AI because AI can only suggest what they find and that is why our judgment can determine which one we choose.
And always re-examine what AI finds to find out whether the info it provides is valid or a scam because right now, AI can't sort it out.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 25, 2023, 04:41:11 PM

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It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

The thing is that AI can generate false information, and can also read information on the internet that is false, so it's not really too accurate to make predictions.

Also, it's usually trained with older data, from months or even years ago so it's also not up to date with the latest news, which are the most relevant to make a prediction.

I don't think a general AI like chatGPT is great for this, but maybe some specifically trained one could help a bit.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on February 25, 2023, 04:41:11 PM

Quote from: Fortify on February 25, 2023, 03:17:25 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

AI will use the data available over the specific time period to predict the outcome of the match. At times this can have coincidence with the outcome of the match and when the outcome doesn't favour we should have the mind to accept it rather than thinking we should've predicted it than going for the AI.

The best AI can do is help as an information source. While analysing the past history of teams and player performance it isn't easy, it takes time and we need to watch carefully. With AI the work can be made effective and based on the same we can make the prediction.

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Quote from: Fortify on February 25, 2023, 03:17:25 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

It is been feed up by information into its library which means that it is really that accumulating on whats been able to accumulate and it is really just that not really reliant if you are really that basing your predictions

and betting positions on what AI had suggested because its never been that recommendable but if you do see that it is really that relevant or effective to yours then its your call.

It is really just that people cant really have the easiest way because if it does really work then lots of people would be making use of it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 25, 2023, 06:56:14 AM

I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events

and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

I wonder what will be the advantage of this (or any other) AI if it uses the same set of data as the rest? Maybe it will be more efficient by 0.01% consistently, but we will never notice such a small difference. As I already wrote, only that AI will make breakthroughs in forecasting that will collect data itself (and even most likely will determine which data is important).

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 25, 2023, 06:56:14 AM

I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events

and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

With data and facts given on it, that's a good answer from it. Soon, we'll see people that will totally be dependent on chatgpt or any other ai tools that are certain going to ask for some predictions for certain sports.
As these ais are being developed to become better overtime with the data that it's gathering through their users, no doubt that soon we might really see it become.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 19, 2023, 07:28:43 AM

~ What do we expect from them, just letting gamblers to see a good advantage? For sure no! they will also do things that will let them to continue being in the upper hands.

There is bound to be technological competition between players and casino owners trying to earn money from gambling. And there is a possibility that players can win more matches because players can have more choices of matches to bet on. Casinos will try to develop technology that can prevent AI from helping players to get more information.

And it's very interesting to see it happen in the future after AI technology has been developed better than today. And maybe the casinos will still manage to keep an advantage over gamblers trying to win big bucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in my opinion it's not the bookies, it's the bettors who with their bets affect the odds. Bookies set the odds only initially, and after that the odds are changing all the time depending on how much money was staked on this or that outcome.

I just asked ChatGPT a question about predicting sport events

and it appeared more optimistic than I expected.

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Quote from: traderethereum on February 25, 2023, 02:42:28 AM

And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

An essence of being wise, right? Maximizing the usages of AI while still working with other sources of information before deciding where to bet, it's truly a human desire to find more edge to have better outcome, but in terms of AI, still not that accurate as there are factors that AI can't predict as early as the game is not starting yet, injuries and the coach decision to rest and sit their stars.

Something that AI can't provide for you when you run the check. It's still you as human who can decide which player/team to bet
that have a good chance of winning.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

It's hard to think that an AI, based on old historical data, would be able to predict the outcomes of current matches. I would imagine player quality could increase and decrease by quite a large margin in a two year span. It does feel like there is some sort of algorithm that you might be able to suggest to it, or see what what suggestions it would churn out but you might have to spoon feed it data like current player lists or team configurations. You can bet that gambling companies are also seeking to use these AI programs to improve their offerings as well and they have a lot more resources to fund such research. I don't think anyone can profit on it, but maybe if it was using more up to date info it's possible.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 23, 2023, 01:42:55 PM

It is not impossible, AI can be used by gamblers to collect as much information data regarding the teams that we are analyzing. obviously, this is very helpful, and can shorten our time when trying to analyze a match that will take place. well, related to the information obtained from this source of artificial intelligence technology.

Of course, we should not immediately believe it or it can be said to swallow information whole without first looking for the validity of the information. We can use Al according to its function, but not to predict the results of a match. So, I don't think this is a matter of making us lazy to learn, but rather to find all the information we need, especially the latest information. after that, we can conclude based on the analysis that we have done. so basically, all decisions are again in the hands of the gamblers.

But it has become a habit that when we can get something easily, we become passive and don't do as much searching as before. Moreover, if the search carried out by AI can provide the results we want, we will rely on AI for our analysis.
It's human nature not to bother when you get comfort and will continue to use it.
And I don't think we should be like that because what we place in sports bets is our responsibility, our money is at stake and we also have a risk when placing those sports bets.

That is true for majority of humanity, but not for everyone. Same goes for news as well, we are given all these news we see, and then we take it as information, but news is not information anymore, plus media learned giving the same information from different angles, one making it look bad, one making it look good, and it is the same story.

This means that we are mislead, and yet we believe it, at least majority does. But, there are still people who go into detail and learn more about it and figure out what's the reality, and those type of minds would end up checking AI if they want to, but they will also check the data that backs it up to make sure at the same time.

And by trying to find more news besides using AI to find other news, it will give us more information where we can find out what's going on out there.
That can also be our consideration in choosing a team with a big chance of winning.
And we can also compare which news provides more genuine or fake information because nowadays, a lot of fake news cannot be accounted for.
Only wise gamblers can use AI properly while they keep looking elsewhere for the info to support their research.

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