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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 236. (Read 465769 times)

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Going through in order Smiley

poolwaffle, can you pls explain the issue with workers?
as a test I set up 8 workers for my rigs and hash reported dropped to 2mh
took away workers and went to normal.

I don't know of any issues with workers like that.  Can you email me what you were using for worker names?  Perhaps its an invalid character or something?

Can anyone explain what requested work restarts are?

I mostly use old cards like 5850-s in my rigs. I have around 2.5-2.8MH. I tried out middlecoin but my profit was really bad. Since they changed to 1024 diff it was worse. I had lot of work restarts and around 5% rejects.

Then I found waffle with vardiff. Worked like a charm. Around 1% rejected and no restarts. Since diff is changed to 512 I'm getting a lot of restarts again and reject went up to 2,5%. My profit went down.

Anyone can explain why is that?

Restarts are a normal thing.  It means there is new work (compared to the old work you were working on), this could be because there are new transactions we want to include in a block, or we switched coins.  You're most likely getting the exact same number of them as before, just that with fewer shares submitted (512 difficulty instead of whatever you were before), you see them more often.  They're perfectly normal, and are to be expected.

As for the 5% rejects, that seems high, what is the reasons returned for them?


I use the following pattern:

BTC_off1
BTC_off2

BTC_garage1
BTC_garage2

and so on just incrementing numbers.
When I set that no hashrate reported dropped dramatically.

Please advise.

Again, please email me the actual worker names you were using (all of them if possible) so I can check on them in the database.
sr. member
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now pool working great thanks waffle
efficiency incresed to almost 70% from 35%
and profit per mh returning Grin Grin
newbie
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Going through in order Smiley

poolwaffle, can you pls explain the issue with workers?
as a test I set up 8 workers for my rigs and hash reported dropped to 2mh
took away workers and went to normal.

I don't know of any issues with workers like that.  Can you email me what you were using for worker names?  Perhaps its an invalid character or something?

Can anyone explain what requested work restarts are?

I mostly use old cards like 5850-s in my rigs. I have around 2.5-2.8MH. I tried out middlecoin but my profit was really bad. Since they changed to 1024 diff it was worse. I had lot of work restarts and around 5% rejects.

Then I found waffle with vardiff. Worked like a charm. Around 1% rejected and no restarts. Since diff is changed to 512 I'm getting a lot of restarts again and reject went up to 2,5%. My profit went down.

Anyone can explain why is that?

Restarts are a normal thing.  It means there is new work (compared to the old work you were working on), this could be because there are new transactions we want to include in a block, or we switched coins.  You're most likely getting the exact same number of them as before, just that with fewer shares submitted (512 difficulty instead of whatever you were before), you see them more often.  They're perfectly normal, and are to be expected.

As for the 5% rejects, that seems high, what is the reasons returned for them?


I use the following pattern:

BTC_off1
BTC_off2

BTC_garage1
BTC_garage2

and so on just incrementing numbers.
When I set that no hashrate reported dropped dramatically.

Please advise.
full member
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Is there any reason to mine with separate worker names, after we've got d=512 constantly?
When workers are numbered my total hash rate in the list of miners is wrong.

P.S.
Seems to me today is the good day
member
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No you can't. If I remember correctly it was for variable diff. only.
So that each of your rigs could have different variable diff.
Correct me if I'm wrong...
newbie
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Something is wrong with stats. I've now put all worker names and on 10MH+ can see only 2mh (!!!)
Shall I remove the worker names?

i'm using BTC_workername

Huh

poolwaffle, can you pls explain the issue with workers?
as a test I set up 8 workers for my rigs and hash reported dropped to 2mh
took away workers and went to normal.

Thanks,

Can you see each worker reporting separately, or you just see single worker @ 2 MH?

I cannot see the each worker, can I? (correct me if i'm wrong)
Total for btc address dropped.
sr. member
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24H = 54% LTC+DOGE Huh  Huh  Huh

http://wafflepool.com/stats

It is no wonder that the weak profits.
I'll go to some other place where the admins know what they're doing.
Soon here that falls below 1gig, again, I see.
Is there a pilot in the plane. Smiley


edit:
Here's a list of amateur Smiley

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Smiley



And as explained multiple times, to multiple people.  That list is blatently wrong in some regards (block rewards), in some regards slightly wrong (delayed), and in some regards correct (coins we can't mine - low difficulty).  I'm extremely confident in our profitability calculator, its not like its hard to multiply two numbers.
newbie
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24H = 54% LTC+DOGE Huh  Huh  Huh

http://wafflepool.com/stats

It is no wonder that the weak profits.
I'll go to some other place where the admins know what they're doing.
Soon here that falls below 1gig, again, I see.
Is there a pilot in the plane. Smiley


edit:
Here's a list of amateur Smiley

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Smiley

sr. member
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but careful please with too many unexchanged new coins as one might dump the price if you flood the market with them alltogether ^^

We calculate our price based on the unexchanged amount (depth), as well as our hashrate compared to the network (assuming the other percent of the network will dump their coins as well).  This gives us a conservative estimate as far as depth goes.

Some of the issue currently is that our Cryptsy API isn't working properly (getting unauthorized errors for trading).  Nothing has changed on our side, so we've got a ticket into them to see whats up...
sr. member
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but careful please with too many unexchanged new coins as one might dump the price if you flood the market with them alltogether ^^
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i have diff=1024 and it works very well!! rejects are 0.3% and 1.45 Mhs
Qxw
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What is going on with eu server.
Reject rate rised from average 0.5% to 10-20% and even more.
Lot of stales, lot of duplicates, lot of job not found... etc...
Problem is in server end, not my rigs (only 8MH/s now on waffle)
Specially it looks that this is with some coin.
Previously I have not find this with waffle.

After 12 hour watch, rejects <0.1% with my one test rig with eu.waffle.

Changes what have made looks really perfect. Nice to see that wafflepool is in good hands.

also vardiff off is very good. Fixed 512 is ok and very welcome change also with this amount of miners.

It looks like many pepoles do not understand this diff / vardiff case at all. There is lot of misunderstooding  in this. Partially due to lot (and more) disinformations around of forums.

But I hope wafflepool admin keep his head calm. Poples who know - I mean know - mostly they do not rant about this at all.  Who do not believe this, he need refresh lessons of statistics.

This image is one nice example.
More short time variations but nothing else  and no any negative effect.  Just do not spend your time and stress and disturb your mind with looking every minute and hour your hasrates. Well adjusted good machines do not need human watching all over time. Leave them do work and just "Do not disturb your employees when they are working."

(This image is not from my test rig! This is from MisterWill link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5287138  )



What is loosed after change to fixed 512 diff. Just nothing or...  On the contrary - it may produce more (profit) for all of us. Even for low hashrate miners.



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Because new coins were added that cant be auto-changed to BTC.

I think this diff=512 is good, just have to be a bit more patient with the stats.
Even more so if doing changes to your cgminer.conf.

member
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hi poolwaffle,
why the unconverted is more than converted?
sr. member
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Please change vardiff back lower... at least to 128!

I have 25 workers all around 40 kHash/sec. Noticed a drop in shares since the 512 hardcode.

edit: after looking this over my shares are pretty much the same. I do have more variance though. see http://imgur.com/ZIk5lHL

This is the exact definition of variance.

Happy to hear the server load has improved without vardiff.  I eventually realized that variance doesn't hurt my payouts at all, so this is a welcomed change.

My suggestion to appease the less knowledgable who are complaining about variance: provide 2 hashrate messurements - 5min window and then a full N period window. Look at share count over the entire N period, calculate hashrate based on time between rounds and total shares.  Then lay it out like:

Instant Hashrate: xxxMH/s (will fluctuate)
Average Hashrate: xxxMH/s (takes 10 shifts to be accurate)

Keep up the solid work.

Yep, we'll end up moving to a longer timeperiod displayed (30min most likely).  The issue is (like an idiot), I have stuff spinkled throughout the codebase that expects miner hashrates to be saved in the DB as 5min values.  So if I change it to precalculate 30min values, somewhere in the code, we'll be seeing values way off.  Just gotta dig through and find them all before I can switch Smiley
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Happy to hear the server load has improved without vardiff.  I eventually realized that variance doesn't hurt my payouts at all, so this is a welcomed change.

My suggestion to appease the less knowledgable who are complaining about variance: provide 2 hashrate messurements - 5min window and then a full N period window. Look at share count over the entire N period, calculate hashrate based on time between rounds and total shares.  Then lay it out like:

Instant Hashrate: xxxMH/s (will fluctuate)
Average Hashrate: xxxMH/s (takes 10 shifts to be accurate)

Keep up the solid work.
newbie
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Please change vardiff back lower... at least to 128!

I have 25 workers all around 40 kHash/sec. Noticed a drop in shares since the 512 hardcode.

edit: after looking this over my shares are pretty much the same. I do have more variance though. see http://imgur.com/ZIk5lHL
legendary
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The problem I have with 512 diff is that my internet connection is not stable enough for my 280MH when using my pc and 420MH when away

I need about 2 minutes to work on a 512 diff, but if my internet is not stable I loose those shares in the ashes.

 [01:54:11] Accepted 4a7939d3 Diff 880/512 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [01:56:18] Accepted 01b931a4 Diff 38K/512 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [01:58:34] Accepted 6c67debc Diff 605/512 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [02:00:31] Stratum connection to Pool 0 interrupted
 [02:00:31] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 512
 [02:02:28] Stratum connection to Pool 0 interrupted
 [02:02:28] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 512
 [02:03:11] Accepted 732c3c06 Diff 569/512 GPU 0 at Pool 0

When using vardiff its OK because I did not loose that much high rate shares. So the variance for me is not balanced with the time, but its going down with the time. I got random disconnects and will lose high value shares.
I cant fix my internet connection as the whole family is using the Internet, and also the ISP provider is kinda sucky.

Go into your router at home and look for qos settings. Try prioritizing port 3333 (tcp). At least your upload will get there. Download u dont control.
newbie
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Hi All,

I just joined Wafflepool yesterday. But until now, I can't see my hashrate display on miners stats page. I have 6Mhs in total. My 3 workers report accepting shares and finding new blocks but I can't see anything on Wafflepool.

All I see are these since yesterday and now. My hash: 9343cd7e. Could somebody help to explain to me?

Hash Rate: 0.00 kH/s
Blocks Found: 1 (show last 10)

Bitcoins sent to you: 0.00000000
Bitcoins earned (not yet sent): 0.00000000
Bitcoins unconverted (approximate): 0.00000000
click to see coin balances

Coin    Converted    Confirmed    Unconfirmed    Approx BTC Value
Total             0.00000000


Recent Payouts
Date    Amount    TxnId


Recent Shifts
ID    Ended                Shares (yours / total)    Blocks Found
7443    OPEN                    0 / 84189674                    21
7442    2014-02-22 00:48:51    0 / 100208101                    25
7441    2014-02-22 00:37:21    0 / 100016628                    11
7440    2014-02-22 00:25:41    0 / 100575219                    13
7439    2014-02-22 00:13:56    0 / 100257273                     7
7438    2014-02-22 00:02:12    0 / 100488699                     4
7437    2014-02-21 23:50:27    0 / 100034031                    15
7436    2014-02-21 23:38:37    0 / 100844526                    17
7435    2014-02-21 23:26:56    0 / 100169725                     3
7434    2014-02-21 23:15:06    0 / 100330493                     3


Earnings Log
Time    Coin    Amount    BTC
newbie
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Thanks for all your support and participation here, poolwaffle. 

Is this your 'official' support forum?
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