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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 29. (Read 465710 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 254
So since I cannot wait to rejoin Waffle, I'm just walking through the concept of auto switching and wondering if this is what it takes:

1). Logic to determine which protocol is most profitable using the standard X11 = 5.5x, X13 = 4x, if we assume X15, Nist5, and Keccek won't be thrown into the mix
2). Additional ports to receive the switching clients
3). Ports are shut down based on the logic in item #1, and only the most profitable protocol remains with a port open, and the miner simply uses pool switching as the way it moves from one to another

I know there is a lot on the backend that needs to be introduced, and in a custom package, that is pretty complex I imagine, but I just wanted to know if that was the basic concept on how it would be handled.

My 50 rigs no have been diagnosed with split-algorithm complex, which is actually a good thing, but it would be better at Waffle!

This is almost exactly what we'll do.  The biggest thing unaccounted for is how to handle users who either prefer (electricity, etc) a specific algorithm (aka, add +25% weight to x13), and users who have cards that switch at rates outside our standard (eg, having a card that does X13 at 6x instead of our calculated 3.4x).

Doing the first part (algo switching) shouldn't be too terribly difficult, some tech additions (turning on/off ports), and some minor switcher logic (choosing which port to open).

Doing the second part (per user config of weights) is a lot tougher, and will likely get pushed back for a while (no one else is doing that yet either, so its not like we're playing catchup) Smiley
newbie
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Primer10

my cgwatcher reports an average between 12-12.9M/hs steady all day long, but my graphs and current stats  on wafflepool show peaks clear up to 18Mh/s and valleys down to 8Mh/s,  i have noticed that the higher the hash rate shown on wafflepool the higher my reject rate is.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Well so much for the KEY coin 550 blocks I don't see any recent ones now Sad
Reward must have switched to 150 now and no longer our most profitable Sad
Congrats to those who stuck with X13 for the awesome but too short bonus Smiley (I did)

EDIT: yep that's it, now only paying 150 blocks ...

Someone was renting a lot of hash power too to point there as it was very profitable elsewhere.

So since I cannot wait to rejoin Waffle, I'm just walking through the concept of auto switching and wondering if this is what it takes:

1). Logic to determine which protocol is most profitable using the standard X11 = 5.5x, X13 = 4x, if we assume X15, Nist5, and Keccek won't be thrown into the mix
2). Additional ports to receive the switching clients
3). Ports are shut down based on the logic in item #1, and only the most profitable protocol remains with a port open, and the miner simply uses pool switching as the way it moves from one to another

I know there is a lot on the backend that needs to be introduced, and in a custom package, that is pretty complex I imagine, but I just wanted to know if that was the basic concept on how it would be handled.

My 50 rigs no have been diagnosed with split-algorithm complex, which is actually a good thing, but it would be better at Waffle!
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
is it just me? Anyone noticed their x11 (maybe x13 too) hashrate graph is quite wild, fluctuating with quite a big variance (like +/- 1mh/s)?

I am using 2x 750ti with ccminer reporting 5100kh/s.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
Well so much for the KEY coin 550 blocks I don't see any recent ones now Sad
Reward must have switched to 150 now and no longer our most profitable Sad
Congrats to those who stuck with X13 for the awesome but too short bonus Smiley (I did)

EDIT: yep that's it, now only paying 150 blocks ...

So many posts while I was asleep Smiley

Yeah, we jumped on Key within a few minutes of it being exchangable on bittrex, so got in there pretty early, very nice spike in profits indeed Smiley

Hi All, Hi WP.
I think you, WP should fix this - www.wafflepoolmonitor.com/index.php shows what hidden coin WP mining now  Smiley
That was keycoin on X13 Smiley So if you want to hide it, dont show it on www.wafflepoolmonitor.com.

I don't actually own/operate that site, they're just using our API, but it looks like I'm obviously not scrubbing it somewhere along the way.  I'll see where I missed it Smiley
Edit: Fixed, thanks for the heads up Smiley
full member
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If you rented out a building to someone, you would want to know what they are doing or else you could end up with some kind of  child porn business that could ultimately effect you. I know totally different subject but same principle.

This is a terrible analogy -- Owning the building does not grant you rights to the IP that is developed on the premises.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
I honestly don't think poolwaffle should be asked to show everything behind the scenes to miners. There is zero reason for him to publish what he does to everyone. In fact you could consider his profitability code to be proprietary and no company is going to release proprietary data for free. He provides a service that he is paid for and we are not paying him for his source code, simply his ability to generate profit for our equipment. It's very unreasonable to expect someone to go and spend a lot of time creating something and then give it away for nothing. When you purchase commercial off the shelf software, you are purchasing a license for use, not a license for the release of the source code. I feel that this is a similar situation.

wasnt asking poolwaffle to give his source code.simply to display 2 numbers that should already be apart of the profitability formula.

and yes when my equipment and time are involved and it involves any kind of finances, then yes i do want to know what the profitability is and how it is achieved.If you rented out a building to someone, you would want to know what they are doing or else you could end up with some kind of  child porn business that could ultimately effect you. I know totally different subject but same principle.

I have a great idea for you, go open your own pool!
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Well so much for the KEY coin 550 blocks I don't see any recent ones now Sad
Reward must have switched to 150 now and no longer our most profitable Sad
Congrats to those who stuck with X13 for the awesome but too short bonus Smiley (I did)

EDIT: yep that's it, now only paying 150 blocks ...
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
and yes when my equipment and time are involved and it involves any kind of finances, then yes i do want to know what the profitability is and how it is achieved.If you rented out a building to someone, you would want to know what they are doing or else you could end up with some kind of  child porn business that could ultimately effect you. I know totally different subject but same principle.

You know the profitability, as you know how much you are being paid.
You have no right to know how it is achieved, that is the IP of the pool owner.
If you invested $X in a mutual fund, would you expect them to describe exactly the methods they chose to determine how much of which stock they bought? No, you would get a broad description of how the fund worked, and no view of the details, as they are what give fund A a competitive advantage over fund B.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Hi All, Hi WP.
I think you, WP should fix this - www.wafflepoolmonitor.com/index.php shows what hidden coin WP mining now  Smiley
That was keycoin on X13 Smiley So if you want to hide it, dont show it on www.wafflepoolmonitor.com.

Thanks

LOL thanks for the confirmation on our guess Smiley
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
Hi All, Hi WP.
I think you, WP should fix this - www.wafflepoolmonitor.com/index.php shows what hidden coin WP mining now  Smiley
That was keycoin on X13 Smiley So if you want to hide it, dont show it on www.wafflepoolmonitor.com.

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
What coin is WP mining right now?

KEYCoin?

The block rewards don't seem to add up.

I dont want to waste my mining power on this.
Could be KEY ... I have seen 250 blocks earlier and 550 blocks now ...
Code:
if(pindexBest->nHeight < 400)
    {
        nSubsidy = 500 * COIN;
    }
        else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 700)
    {
        nSubsidy = 450 * COIN;
    }
        else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 1000)
    {
        nSubsidy = 350 * COIN;
    }
        else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 1300)
    {
        nSubsidy = 300 * COIN;
    }
        else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 1600)
    {
        nSubsidy = 250 * COIN;
    }
    else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 2000)
    {
        nSubsidy = 550 * COIN;
    }
    else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 2100)
    {
        nSubsidy = 150 * COIN;
    }
    else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 3000)
    {
        nSubsidy = 100 * COIN;
    }
    else if(pindexBest->nHeight < 4000)
    {
        nSubsidy = 50 * COIN;
    }

If this is true, the bonus we are seeing right now will end soon Sad Mine it while reward is at maximum!!!
newbie
Activity: 35
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legendary
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Merit: 1723
What coin is WP mining right now?

KEYCoin?

The block rewards don't seem to add up.

I dont want to waste my mining power on this.
hero member
Activity: 526
Merit: 500
Its all about the Gold
I honestly don't think poolwaffle should be asked to show everything behind the scenes to miners. There is zero reason for him to publish what he does to everyone. In fact you could consider his profitability code to be proprietary and no company is going to release proprietary data for free. He provides a service that he is paid for and we are not paying him for his source code, simply his ability to generate profit for our equipment. It's very unreasonable to expect someone to go and spend a lot of time creating something and then give it away for nothing. When you purchase commercial off the shelf software, you are purchasing a license for use, not a license for the release of the source code. I feel that this is a similar situation.

Agreed. I've tried all the different multipools out there and I always come back to WP. Not only is the profitability great, but my payouts line up with what I expect which can't be said for many other multipools.

hence my proposal for a universal wide display of those 2 numbers, not just for waffle pool but for all mining pools.
hero member
Activity: 526
Merit: 500
Its all about the Gold
I honestly don't think poolwaffle should be asked to show everything behind the scenes to miners. There is zero reason for him to publish what he does to everyone. In fact you could consider his profitability code to be proprietary and no company is going to release proprietary data for free. He provides a service that he is paid for and we are not paying him for his source code, simply his ability to generate profit for our equipment. It's very unreasonable to expect someone to go and spend a lot of time creating something and then give it away for nothing. When you purchase commercial off the shelf software, you are purchasing a license for use, not a license for the release of the source code. I feel that this is a similar situation.

wasnt asking poolwaffle to give his source code.simply to display 2 numbers that should already be apart of the profitability formula.

and yes when my equipment and time are involved and it involves any kind of finances, then yes i do want to know what the profitability is and how it is achieved.If you rented out a building to someone, you would want to know what they are doing or else you could end up with some kind of  child porn business that could ultimately effect you. I know totally different subject but same principle.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Sign of X13 hidden has forked, could any find a profitable X13 coin worth around 0.00015000 btc?
Similar pattern when were mining forked Judge earlier.
I've been trying to identify new coin too ... but if it is forked, they are still getting exchanged and paid to earnings so exchange would be on fork too ...
full member
Activity: 202
Merit: 100
Sign of X13 hidden has forked, could any find a profitable X13 coin worth around 0.00015000 btc?
Similar pattern when were mining forked Judge earlier.
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
PW added another hidden coin that is skyrocketing profits Smiley  Would not be getting converted and payouts on this coin if it was forked, so enjoy while it lasts Smiley

Lesser conversion rate than estimated is fine, but renting additional rigs for the ride would have been a pitty on a fork.
Thanks Smiley
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
Quick question: profitability X13 has spiked skyhigh recently. Don´t want to rain on anyones parade, but is this just a lucky streak or is the pool mining on a fork?
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