Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 28. (Read 465769 times)

Yep still getting interrupted and had been working fine for weeks.

C:\cpuminer-multi>minerd.exe -a x11 -o stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:3331
-u 1HANJQygp3jHuzutceBgMT7wfCgEug6h4L_Q6600 -p d=0.008 --threads 4 -q --no-redir
ect --no-longpoll --timeout 30
[2014-07-17 11:06:23] 4 miner threads started, using 'x11' algorithm.
[2014-07-17 11:06:23] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://uswest.wafflepool.com:33
31
[2014-07-17 11:06:24] Stratum detected new block
[2014-07-17 11:08:24] stratum_recv_line failed
[2014-07-17 11:08:24] Stratum connection interrupted
[2014-07-17 11:08:24] Stratum detected new block
[2014-07-17 11:10:24] stratum_recv_line failed
[2014-07-17 11:10:24] Stratum connection interrupted
[2014-07-17 11:10:24] Stratum detected new block

I've tried lowering diff to 0.004 and 0.002 and still not working.

X13 working just fine, just having probs with X11 and all on same ISP connection ...

I don't see anything on my side.  SEA server has a tiny bit higher load than normal (but still working fine).  Nothing on the graphs showing a noticible drop in hashrate, and no alerts went off...  Are you still seeing it?

Is WP under DDoS attack?  I'm seeing a huge amount of "stratum connection interrupted".
None of my X11 miners are getting shares accepted and diff keeps reseting to 0.160
I've tried uswest, useast and same problem

he probably hasn't seen the dark days of middlecoin when after a 12 hour graph freeze all you got was "database has problems and needs to catch up. " and this explanation came once every 5 problems and it always seemed to happen when profitability was high... all for 4% fee, good old times lol

This has been explained hundreds of times, it is called variance and is quite normal  ... read the thread LOL.

My graph always looks wild. I was as low as 4.5 M/h and as high as 16.3 M/h (with X11)
The graphs for me always look like this regardless of how many times I switch settings or update drivers...
I was always curious if that was normal or just my dumb luck

Agreed, and to be quite honest, PW already publishes more data than any other pool I have mined at.

You're lucky I'm not the pool owner, I'd tell you to take your one Nvidia card elsewhere. I wonder if you realize how annoying you come across? Of all the pools I've been a part of, I can't point to a single other one that has someone behind it that is as up front as Pool Waffle. No idea how long you've been in the game, but trust is a rare thing to give out in the world, and very few earn it, but I have to say I have always been impressed by Waffle.

I appreciate the explanations that he gives when things do go wrong, it's amazing how much good communications goes towards loyalty... And of course his results have been stellar back to when he quickly implemented the switching of Doge coin when the "random" block reward was over a certain size.

Try using d=N in your password, where N is difficulty. Lower difficulty == smoother graph, just don't overdo it.

http://wafflepool.com/faq

As always, an eloquent, well explained response

Nobody is forced to mine here & if one disagrees with the policies, there are plenty of new multipool startups to head over to.

Right, and what I keep saying is, I'm still not hearing any reasoning behind it other than "I'd like to see it".  To which my answer is still "the way we come up with those numbers is essentially our 'secret sauce', and publishing them can only hurt us".  Gains from our (WP users/me) side is literally you going "well I got to see them", and a few other miners going "yep. those are numbers", and the downside is more competition and giving away recipes.

Some things we publish because of the potential for me doing something nefarious, for example, we publish all of the blocks we find, which can easily be matched up to the work we send for miners, and you can easily see I'm not skimming blocks (a large number of other pools don't publish this info).  We certainly have no requirement to publish anything, but I try to publish as much as possible to make sure everyone understands I'm being as transparent as possible (within reason), and that we're all on the same team.

We publish our profitability numbers once they're earned, but publishing the stuff that got us to the conclusion that it was worth it just gives away too much, and really doesn't show anything exciting to miners.

tldr; "I want to see it" isn't a valid reason.  If there is a serious concern (an actual exploitable situation), please bring that up, but otherwise, the "just because" doesn't outweigh the (marginally) worse competitive position.

X13 - the last day has been like the good old days of scrypt. Glad I didn't bounce my miners over to Nist5 for longer than a couple days, was a lucky break.

That's not how it's done in real life though, is it? Renting out a building does not give you access to business details of the tenant. Typically you would have a lease contract that clearly defines responsibilities and liabilities of each party, including some kind of a statement regarding illegal activity. The rest is up to who has better lawyers.

None of which is relevant to a mining pool. If you don't trust the pool operator or don't like the general uncertainty of this market - you move on. If you can find any pool or other crypto-related business that would be able to provide the information that you are looking for - let us know. I'm genuinely interested in how it would look like.

I will not attempt to argue with you because I can see you point and it is valid to some extent (though your analogies definitely need work  ).  My best recommendation for you is to stop trying to get wafflepool to show you even more of what happens behind the scenes and find a different pool that does (If you can find one).  If you don't like something, no one is forcing you to mine here.

If you were a owner of a house or a commercial building , would you want to know that your tenants were not jeopardizing your property due to criminal actions?

i wasnt asking the pool owners to so called rights , but i was asking them to simply display the numbers they should already have in their profit formula.

to an extent i do have a right to know how its achieved, as if it was a criminal act, i would not want to participate in it nor have my mining time and equipment usage go to waste if they got shut down or confiscated the pool funds.

once again im not asking the pool owners to describe the methods, but i do want the hard line profit numbers. as in terms of how much stock they bought, thats pretty clear as you can view how much stock they bought and at what price, as in the same if they sell your stock, they show you what price they sold it at as well.method i can care less as long as it can not effect me by criminal actions or by seizure due to criminal actions.

Just because im being paid, does not mean its the correct amount. If that was the case we could trust the lovely IRS to just pay us a refund based off the info they received from our jobs or just take some or all of our income in event we owed and do so without even letting us see the numbers and reason. Or letting our employer just give you a check every week based off something on their end  and not reflecting the true hours and true rate of pay you agreed to when you got hired.

Here is the NH implementation: https://nicehash.com/multialgo/#finetuning

Since it's based on the password, authorization will fail on all ports except the one that's most profitable ATM. This works not only with sgminer5, but with some additional scripting with other software (with some loss of performance due to slower switching of course), so even though it's quite hacky it's still a decent stopgap solution.

In addition to allowing to set custom multipliers, they also allow to set the power cost, and exclude certain algos - e.g. if I don't have my rig set up for X13 I can set f4=0 and the pool will authorize me on the next most profitable algo.

Right, it means it wouldn't be closing ports at all, they'd all be open, it just probably wouldn't be giving out work on the ports that would normally be closed (and also based on those weight factors).  I assume sgminer sees those as "down" or not giving work fast enough, and ignores them (otherwise, what would it work on?).  So that shouldn't be too tough actually.

Again, haven't started the implementation, but been thinking about it a good bit

What I'm doing is using custom variables that are being set in the password field to control my own formula as to how I want to mine. So I can give my own custom defined weight to each algo, or I can use the defaults. Then the pool is taking those and applying them. In thinking that through, that means the port opening and closing simplicity is not there, as some will be mining different coins based on custom settings, so I'm not clear how they are doing that (keeping in mind I have no knowledge of the backend of a pool, but just was trying to better understand it).

For me, I'm fine with using default calculations if it speeds up implementation and makes it easier on the back end. Based on your past, I would certainly trust your profitability calculations, as I have on a per coin basis, this simply makes a multi-pool even more multi.

Nicehash even if it's not really a pool like waffle mining coin but rent hash is already doing that, you can define f= and c= as your factor and cost

Something like p=x;fx11:4;fx13:6 and pool accept or reject connect