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We have had different analyses about the implication of population on the economy of a nation. Some economists will argue that the reason for the underdevelopment of most countries is because of overpopulation. Hence they are advised to cut down the population through diverse means like birth control and so on. In other countries, economists are also predicting economic woes because of underpopulation. These nations have been advised to increase the birth rate through diverse means. Some nations are giving citizens diverse welfare packages to increase the number of children they have. Some are encouraging immigration to fill the gaps created by the labor shortages.

A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

One of the major reasons why these overly populated countries are underdeveloped is because of the economic limitation these developed countries implemented. Like even when a country is capable of creating weapons, they are sanctioned not to do so because developed countries reserve the right to create these weapons.  There are lots of things that normal people do not know, even if the country wanted to do things that can help their country progress, the limitations implemented by powerful countries deprived them of these rights.  So instead underdeveloped country can only serve as laborer while developed country takes the joy of utilizing natural resources and technologies for their own benefit.
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Population is the important one for the country,it can be used in both positive and negative ways.China is the most populated country in this world,but the Chinese government using the population for their economic development.Some of the under developed countries think the population as the largest burden to them.Because the undeveloped country economy will be worst one compared to the developed countries economy.It’s very important one to use the population to help the country economy development.

That means that the Chinese state has an unusual way of developing its economy through the number of population they have had for a long time in this world, due to the fact that not all countries in the world have been able to do the way that the Chinese state has done in developing their economy within the country. So it must be admitted that China has had a very unique way of developing their economy for a long time and I am also not surprised by this because I see Chinese people with simple appearances but they have more assets in this world.

Maybe they (Chinese citizens) always save 80% of their income to arrange a better future for their children and grandchildren in the future so they will always be stingy on things that are not important in order to be able to save more and not afraid to invest in valuable assets that are well known in this world so that Chinese citizens always look more prosperous when compared to citizens of other countries whose population is not as large as China's. In your opinion, what other influences can affect the country's economy besides the population of the population in the country?
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It is true that in countries with excessive population, if governments fail to effectively create employments for their youths because of short-sighted economic policies and corrupted autocratic system. Un-employed people may involve in criminal activities, a concerning situation may arise resulting in wide-spread hunger and country becomes unliveable. Consequently compelling people to migrate to developed countries for their survival and better prospects.
Even if that's not entirely true - but I believe part of it is. Countries with high populations will find it difficult to develop due to limited employment opportunities. The government cannot create jobs for its people so that this country will become a country with a lower economic status compared to others.

Most of them choose to work in other countries regardless of educational background - but it has become a good trend to rid the population of the unemployment rate. Such a country will exist as a third world country among the global community - but the government will not escape its responsibility to provide jobs. For most of the unemployed who are still having trouble finding work.
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Population is the important one for the country,it can be used in both positive and negative ways.China is the most populated country in this world,but the Chinese government using the population for their economic development.Some of the under developed countries think the population as the largest burden to them.Because the undeveloped country economy will be worst one compared to the developed countries economy.It’s very important one to use the population to help the country economy development.
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Honestly speaking, a population of a country is its strength, but at the same time if you can't pull off the perfect strategy for caring, educating, and empowering the people, they'd become a liability. Look at Iceland and countries with low population for example, they are prospering not because their resources aren't getting dried up easily, for one Iceland is living in the far north which I didn't have to tell you, is comparably shitty when it comes to resources. They succeed because they know how to care for the people and educate them, so when they actually go out there and find work they don't go to other countries to enhance their economy, they work straight for their homeland where they become powerful tools of the workforce and the economy.

Compare that to a country like the Philippines, who's one of the most populated countries in Southeast Asia, they aren't flourishing no matter what, even though resource-wise they are the most rich out of all countries arguably. They stay stuck in the third-world due to poor governance and stone-age outlook at looking out for people. I kid you not when I tell you that they still don't have a concrete subject for Sex education which further increases their rate of teenage pregnancy and HIV cases.
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This is quite an interesting matter and it is that the impact that the population of a nation can have on its economy, goes even far beyond the number of people who inhabit it or their demographic relationship. Factors such as the social culture and the level of training of the citizens of a country are highly influential, of course they are aspects that have been forged throughout history and extremely difficult to change, since the collective psychology of habits in the masses is something extremely difficult to control. Beyond this, as you mention, the amount of population is still relevant at an economic level and various predictions point to scenarios that are not very favorable for countries with either overpopulation or, in the opposite scenario, with low population growth. In my opinion, this particular problem can be solved with adequate distribution and fair treatment for the common interests of the nations that have this type of problem through agreements or treaties of a similar nature, which is not an idea very far from what you you expose here.
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

A country's population has no negative impact on its economy unless the administration of that country does not know how to handle such a population and put it to good use for the country. As you stated above, how would developed nations fill vacancies and obtain inexpensive labour if they do not have people from other countries to fill such positions?
 
The world is changing, and we have seen that computers can now accomplish many things, but this does not negate the need for humans in such sectors.  Many undeveloped countries cannot stop population growth, hence the population will continue to expand. It is now up to each country's government to make good use of its people in order to attain cheap labour.
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The large population does not necessarily have to do with economic backwardness, as we can take China as an example of the opposite case, China has the second largest population in the world and despite that it has good economic progress. On the other hand, there are countries that have a very small population and are very developed.
Agree with you,  population is not the factor to determine country growth. If country has lot of opportunities for labours and country has big resources then I think population play important role in progress of country. India and China are top populated country and both have very good economics status. China is well devolped while India is still in devolping stage.

Any country which government loyals with their citizens and have a broad vision in global trading, technology, Education , resource management and other factor which is beneficial for citizens could devolp their country in advance level. Economic crisis may hit them for some time but it will not last for long time
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With regard to the question, there can be two ways: the first is good by encouraging citizens to increase offspring and reproduction, and the second is evil by trying to keep poor countries backward and spread wars and chaos so that young people in these countries are forced to emigrate and work in developed countries.


It is true that in countries with excessive population, if governments fail to effectively create employments for their youths because of short-sighted economic policies and corrupted autocratic system. Un-employed people may involve in criminal activities, a concerning situation may arise resulting in wide-spread hunger and country becomes unliveable. Consequently compelling people to migrate to developed countries for their survival and better prospects.
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The large population does not necessarily have to do with economic backwardness, as we can take China as an example of the opposite case, China has the second largest population in the world and despite that it has good economic progress. On the other hand, there are countries that have a very small population and are very developed.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
With regard to the question, there can be two ways: the first is good by encouraging citizens to increase offspring and reproduction, and the second is evil by trying to keep poor countries backward and spread wars and chaos so that young people in these countries are forced to emigrate and work in developed countries.
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We have had different analyses about the implication of population on the economy of a nation. Some economists will argue that the reason for the underdevelopment of most countries is because of overpopulation. Hence they are advised to cut down the population through diverse means like birth control and so on. In other countries, economists are also predicting economic woes because of underpopulation. These nations have been advised to increase the birth rate through diverse means. Some nations are giving citizens diverse welfare packages to increase the number of children they have. Some are encouraging immigration to fill the gaps created by the labor shortages.

I everything we do, we should always clamour for a balance. Under us not good and neither is over good. But the irony is the question of the yardstick used to measure the under population and the over population.
  • Is there a standard set by WHO, which should be regarded as the standard population?
  • Do we neasure the population of a country in relative to that of the neighbouring country?
  •   Do we measure the population of a country base on the land mass?
  • Or we measure based on the percentage annual increase in population
If we have a standard, we can now judge if a country is over populated or under populated.
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 Overpopulation is consider as both beneficial as well as disadvantage but it will be due to the circumstances and how the government handle the situations whether he is handling properly or don't provide equal opportunity to them.

 This can be true that larger population can be weakness because those countries which possess over population are underdeveloped while developed countries has controlled population. I think it is something difficult to control population as its not in our hands.

 If population is under control then providing facilities for them is easy and one cannot provide equal opportunities to over population. On other hand overpopulation is also good in term of needs when there is need of young individuals in war or anything other so population is the only way who plays an important role in country's success.
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How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
Your solution of exporting worker isn't a viable long-term solution because of brain drain in the developing nation which in turn causes their economy to suffer because there's not enough workforce there that can do specific roles. I don't have much knowledge about nations that are underpopulated, the only one that I know of is Japan and the only solution that I can see in their current situation is for the politicians to stop creating policies that cater more to the aging population and make their immigration more relaxed for people that want to live there.

To my best understanding of this topic, I think that the only way that we can combat the problem of overpopulation or underpopulation is a combination of creating a comprehensive and effective reproductive health, economic and labor policies, I believe that with this 3 factors being focused on, we might be able to alleviate if not solve the pressing concerns of both an overpopulated and underpopulated country. My other solution would be that of promoting works that aren't popular with the current generation which in my country is agriculture sector, putting some workforce in that area and making sure that it's a worthy endeavor getting in that sector will probably help with immigration and labor.
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Forget about increasing or reducing the population, it doesn't work, they are just litmus test as far as I'm concerned and it has different results per country. Once the foundation/system is wrong, it's a problem, the country can't get it right with either increased or reduced population.

I wouldn't agree that it doesn't work if it can be implemented exactly as intended, and China's One-child policy is a prime example that such a thing is possible. Despite all the controversy surrounding the policy, it is estimated that from 1979 to 2015, about 400 million less children were born in China due to the measure.
Here we go again, when policy is inside policies, people tend to be confused about what worked. I thought of China while posting, and if anyone says that it's population control that helped China then the person misrepresents it. Any country that gets it right has nothing to fear about population, the management of the situation to their advantage through the right leadership and policies is the answer. This can only explain why countries like Canada are looking for more immigrants, you should know that an increase in population is never a problem, but the system the increased population would meet. If the system is positive, the increased population will help, if it's negative, then it becomes an issue.

As for China, this was what they tried to curb as they weren't getting the system right then while the population was becoming alarming, they averted a disaster. As of today, their big number even helps more since their system is working fine, the population increase would only have been an issue if they follow suit their former bad economic path, and now experts are concerned about looming issues if their population drops much as too much ageing population is never good for an economy.

Finally, what helped China to achieve their present status is mainly attributed to "good leadership and human resources." Also, their weaker currency compared to top countries aids further in the good trade balance which helps their GDP. Their ability to produce substandard products and render services cheaper than many top world countries goes a long way in helping their economy, this is even as their huge number contributed to this success, not otherwise as you indicated.
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China and India are most populous countries in the world and are one of big global powers. Clearly they both have utilised there population as there strength rather then a weakness. Also there are countries like Switzerland,  who have very small population still they are very much developed. So population alone is not a criteria for success or failure. You need to have a road map about how to proceed in right direction.
The strength of each nation depends on many reasons. If we take into account the population, then its contribution to the development of the economic power of the state will determine not the number of the population as a whole, but the number of able-bodied population compared to the disabled. Then the development of industry in the country and the education of the population are of great importance. Indeed, in countries where the majority of the population is employed in agriculture with a predominance of manual labor, even their enormous efforts will be generally ineffective. Therefore, everything in the state must be balanced, depending on the location of the state, climate, soil conditions, historical employment of the population, and many other reasons.
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In a way population has an impact regarding the economic status of a country. However, it mostly comes down to the way government officials handles the overpopulation or underpopulation state of a nation. For example, countries like China and India shows that despite their known overpopulated country they are still able to boost their economic status, whereas other countries that are reaching peek overpopulation are simultaneously facing the problem of poverty.

I think population is not a sole factor to determine economic outcome of a country, there are other factors that play crucial role in shaping up the  economic trajectory of a country irrespective of population size, such as good governance, consistent and efficient economic management. Politicians often sell dream of prosperity to win elections, but achieving it requires more than just a large population. It is important for people to work hard with clear goals in mind, develop necessary skills and produce goods those not only meet local demand but also sellable in international markets to earn foreign exchange for the country. China and India serve as good examples that have mastered this strategy, earing foreign exchange through their export oriented  approaches. Achieving prosperity through exportable surplus is a successful economic model that other countries can follow in achieving their economic milestones for sustained growth and development.
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In a way population has an impact regarding the economic status of a country. However, it mostly comes down to the way government officials handles the overpopulation or underpopulation state of a nation. For example, countries like China and India shows that despite their known overpopulated country they are still able to boost their economic status, whereas other countries that are reaching peek overpopulation are simultaneously facing the problem of poverty.
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Western developed countries suffer from underpopulation and reduced births in general, as newer generations tend to have fewer children than older ones used to, which is going to hurt their economies in the long run due to the increase in the aging population. Underdeveloped countries in Africa or Asia, on the other hand, suffer from overpopulation, which isn't helping their state and is happening due to a lack of education and protective measures. Even though India and China, which previous users mentioned, are supposedly two of the largest superpowers, the majority of their people are suffering from poverty and poor living conditions. There needs to be some balance in terms of birth control. The earth is overpopulated, but at the same time, the Western world is suffering from underpopulation and a decreasing number of births.
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If the country has a very large population, then it can create its own separate economic zone.  To do this, it needs to develop its industry and agriculture as much as possible, as well as stimulate domestic demand.  Over time, it will become a regional power (and possibly a leading world power).  

A country with a small population should enter, on mutually beneficial terms, into an economic zone centered on a country with a large population.  Such a country should fit into the chain of cooperation with other countries.  

No country can exist alone.  

At the same time, countries with large populations have a chance to become the center of the economic zone.  

Countries with small populations have no such chance.

If a state pursues the right economic policy, it does not matter how much population it has. Of course, the larger the population, the greater the economic and military potential. If the population is small, such a state can be swallowed up by a larger one at any time. Although Switzerland is small, its economic potential is quite large
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Access to education and free/fair markets are what's required to sustain an economy on a fundamental level. Government corruption usually affects the latter. African countries are overpopulated relative to their GDP which accentuates poverty. Given the lack of education, there's no economic activity. India had problems with this too, but they were able to grow their economy to overcome their population growth by educating their population and having a capitalistic economy with emphasis of free enterprise.

Population reduction (not overpopulation) is catastrophic: https://apnews.com/article/japan-birth-rate-record-low-population-aging-ade0c8a5bb52442f4365db1597530ee4

Japan will eventually run out of healthy young workers to subsidize the older and retired workers. You need population growth in order for an economy to survive, just not overpopulation of an educated populace.
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