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October 04, 2023, 12:51:00 PM
Yes. It cannot be denied that if we compare the impact of a large population on a country's economy, ranging from unemployment, mismanagement, gaps in access to basic services and lack of sustainable development of natural resources, this is a complex problem that has positive and negative aspects of course.

Well, I think what is needed is independent efforts from the community in terms of creating new jobs, let's say self-employed activities and of course don't expect too much to get a job from the government. I think this mainshet must exist and get a helping hand from the government to encourage it so that there are young cadres who after graduating from school do not have to become civil servants in their country.
The problem is so complex and cannot be solved properly by the government, in the end the people have to find their own way to solve this problem and I agree that there is a need for independent efforts by the community to get out of this problem. Waiting for the government to solve it will be hopeless because it is impossible for government to reach a large population, especially for some people who live far from urban areas where the economic cycle is quite slow.

In developed countries, civil servants are not a dream job because working for the government does not make them free to reach a level of financial maturity. Building your own business is much more promising than hoping to work in the government. This mainshhet must be developed so that people do not expect too much help from the government.
It's simple really, people need to start understanding that although the government holds a responsibility to govern and protect the country and its people, we have our own individual responsibilities as well. No matter how many projects, help, and assistance the government provides, if an individual refuse to help themselves and take an action then it will always result back to where they started--nothing.
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October 03, 2023, 08:40:15 PM
Yes. It cannot be denied that if we compare the impact of a large population on a country's economy, ranging from unemployment, mismanagement, gaps in access to basic services and lack of sustainable development of natural resources, this is a complex problem that has positive and negative aspects of course.

Well, I think what is needed is independent efforts from the community in terms of creating new jobs, let's say self-employed activities and of course don't expect too much to get a job from the government. I think this mainshet must exist and get a helping hand from the government to encourage it so that there are young cadres who after graduating from school do not have to become civil servants in their country.
The problem is so complex and cannot be solved properly by the government, in the end the people have to find their own way to solve this problem and I agree that there is a need for independent efforts by the community to get out of this problem. Waiting for the government to solve it will be hopeless because it is impossible for government to reach a large population, especially for some people who live far from urban areas where the economic cycle is quite slow.

In developed countries, civil servants are not a dream job because working for the government does not make them free to reach a level of financial maturity. Building your own business is much more promising than hoping to work in the government. This mainshhet must be developed so that people do not expect too much help from the government.
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October 03, 2023, 09:40:34 AM
The population had good impact in some country like China,the goods of China was in all the countries.All of us know the exact reason for this,the china using their population for the productive purpose.Even though the country economy was based on the communist based,the government satisfy their people by the good economic benefits.The china was the powerful economy next to the United States was the remarkable one.The china total strength is their population,the government used it in correct manner.

Countries like China are developed countries and the system is working over there I won't dispute the fact the population is productive and has been of serious use to the country, because of that same population other countries go to China to establish their business in China because labor is cheap so its a point of attraction to many. and even the population being a blessing in disguise also has its own disadvantage because even now the china government have laid down polices to control birth. With that population, the government's ability to provide housing and other services will be made more challenging. They even had land issues, so the only thing they could do in terms of agriculture and housing was to start going vertical.


While I don't believe that China's population is a burden, it still needs to be controlled. One thing that surprises me the most is that despite having such a large population, they are among the most powerful nations in the world. Their functionality is extremely impressive when compared to other nations' talk of technology, and they are even among the top nations in terms of health, and herbs.
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October 02, 2023, 11:52:02 PM
If a large part of the population of a country is lazy then this population will be the biggest concern for that country, that country will have to go through many problems with this population. But if the population of a country is skilled, then their population will emerge as a blessing for that country. Now those who want to go to developed countries with the expectation of a job, if they are skilled, then they do not have much problem in getting a work permit in that country.

So being skilled is very important nowadays, if you don't have the skills then you will have a lot of problems to get a job. Therefore, if the population of a country is skilled and talented, then that country gets a lot of acceptance globally. So countries that currently have high birth rates should make their population a strength by making them skilled.

The two biggest populated countries of the world are China and India. Both are doing good in terms of growth with China leading and India trying to catch up. Moreover there are also cases where country is less populated like Switzerland but still one of most developed country of the world. I think population is not relevant, as long as you have plan to execute in right direction no one can stop you from going up.

Yes, but Switzerland is not well suited for comparison with average states, because there were no any wars there, and there are very few such states in the world. Plus, Switzerland has been making money throughout history without knowing crises. The same applies, for example, to the state of Liechtenstein. In general, if the state has a large population, then this is good, the main thing is that the government is engaged in education, and then the country will have a lot of working hands ready to move the economy forward.
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October 02, 2023, 11:17:36 PM
A large population for some countries is a positive thing because a large population can be used as a subject for development, the economy will develop if the number of workers is large. A large population, if accompanied by adequate population quality, will be a driver for economic growth. On the other hand, a large population combined with low quality makes that population a burden on national development.
A large population can also prevent a country's economy and development from developing quickly because it will be difficult to develop competence human resources, especially if the country is a poor country. The quality of a country's population will be seen from the education they receive and the jobs available. For poor countries, this is far from expected because the government's focus must be on building human resources first.

Yes. It cannot be denied that if we compare the impact of a large population on a country's economy, ranging from unemployment, mismanagement, gaps in access to basic services and lack of sustainable development of natural resources, this is a complex problem that has positive and negative aspects of course.

Well, I think what is needed is independent efforts from the community in terms of creating new jobs, let's say self-employed activities and of course don't expect too much to get a job from the government. I think this mainshet must exist and get a helping hand from the government to encourage it so that there are young cadres who after graduating from school do not have to become civil servants in their country.
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October 02, 2023, 08:26:09 PM
A large population for some countries is a positive thing because a large population can be used as a subject for development, the economy will develop if the number of workers is large. A large population, if accompanied by adequate population quality, will be a driver for economic growth. On the other hand, a large population combined with low quality makes that population a burden on national development.
A large population can also prevent a country's economy and development from developing quickly because it will be difficult to develop competence human resources, especially if the country is a poor country. The quality of a country's population will be seen from the education they receive and the jobs available. For poor countries, this is far from expected because the government's focus must be on building human resources first.

So in my opinion it doesn't have a significant negative impact on the economy in a country with a large population, it's just that the government needs to increase its quality human resources with quality education evenly and be able to master technology so that it can help the country to achieve development targets.
Whether the is negative or not depends on the leaders of a country, whether they are able to develop human resources or not, the availability of job opportunities can also be seen to what extent the government can develop. Poor countries definitely have far fewer human resources and it is difficult for them to develop skills because the education rate there is very small.

However, if it is mismanaged it will really make the situation worse. The large population and its high growth rate have consequences for the difficulty of finding work, high food prices, education and health costs and many social problems due to the large number of unemployed and so on.
Governance depends on the vision and mission of the leaders we have. If a leader comes from ideas and concepts, perhaps this will be easy for them to develop, but if leaders are born from the opposite, it will be very difficult for them to develop human resources. Many other problems will arise if the population is too large and the country is classified as poor, even worse if the country does not have natural resources that can help the government in building human character, development and a sustainable economy.
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October 02, 2023, 12:14:18 AM
The two biggest populated countries of the world are China and India. Both are doing good in terms of growth with China leading and India trying to catch up. Moreover there are also cases where country is less populated like Switzerland but still one of most developed country of the world. I think population is not relevant, as long as you have plan to execute in right direction no one can stop you from going up.
Not many countries with such a large human population can catch up with what China has done. It takes advanced thinking from a leader to get their country out of the pressure of decline. China is trying to control and dominate the world economy through trade routes and the products they create and currently they almost control the Asian market. India is far behind compared to China, but they are slowly trying to implement a strategy like China, by offering products and industry to several Asian markets in particular.

Population is not very relevant which can prevent any country from getting out of economic problems, but a large population can also hinder the country's economic growth because a large population can make it difficult for the government to increase the source of income for the country. If the leader has a concept in managing the country then population size may not be very relevant which can affect the decline of the country.
A large population for some countries is a positive thing because a large population can be used as a subject for development, the economy will develop if the number of workers is large. A large population, if accompanied by adequate population quality, will be a driver for economic growth. On the other hand, a large population combined with low quality makes that population a burden on national development.

So in my opinion it doesn't have a significant negative impact on the economy in a country with a large population, it's just that the government needs to increase its quality human resources with quality education evenly and be able to master technology so that it can help the country to achieve development targets.

However, if it is mismanaged it will really make the situation worse. The large population and its high growth rate have consequences for the difficulty of finding work, high food prices, education and health costs and many social problems due to the large number of unemployed and so on.
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October 01, 2023, 10:18:49 PM
The two biggest populated countries of the world are China and India. Both are doing good in terms of growth with China leading and India trying to catch up. Moreover there are also cases where country is less populated like Switzerland but still one of most developed country of the world. I think population is not relevant, as long as you have plan to execute in right direction no one can stop you from going up.
Not many countries with such a large human population can catch up with what China has done. It takes advanced thinking from a leader to get their country out of the pressure of decline. China is trying to control and dominate the world economy through trade routes and the products they create and currently they almost control the Asian market. India is far behind compared to China, but they are slowly trying to implement a strategy like China, by offering products and industry to several Asian markets in particular.

Population is not very relevant which can prevent any country from getting out of economic problems, but a large population can also hinder the country's economic growth because a large population can make it difficult for the government to increase the source of income for the country. If the leader has a concept in managing the country then population size may not be very relevant which can affect the decline of the country.
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October 01, 2023, 10:41:38 AM
This is what I am saying, a country that can make its population efficient, that population will become the wealth of that country. India is currently trying its best to utilize its population properly and they have been quite successful. To keep a country in balance, youth is needed for which the birth rate is an important factor, if the birth rate of a developed country continues to decrease regularly, then at some point the number of old people in that country will increase and the working youth will decrease. So population and birth rate are very important in determining the future of a country.

There are developed countries (like Germany and Japan) where birth rate is very low and government is trying to increase birth rate by giving incentives to families. Skilled labor from developing countries find such countries ideal place for immigration. Birth rate is a real issue specially in developing countries of south Asia and Africa. The government can only afford a certain level of population based on its available resources. 
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The two biggest populated countries of the world are China and India. Both are doing good in terms of growth with China leading and India trying to catch up. Moreover there are also cases where country is less populated like Switzerland but still one of most developed country of the world. I think population is not relevant, as long as you have plan to execute in right direction no one can stop you from going up.
This is what I am saying, a country that can make its population efficient, that population will become the wealth of that country. India is currently trying its best to utilize its population properly and they have been quite successful. To keep a country in balance, youth is needed for which the birth rate is an important factor, if the birth rate of a developed country continues to decrease regularly, then at some point the number of old people in that country will increase and the working youth will decrease. So population and birth rate are very important in determining the future of a country.
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September 30, 2023, 03:04:06 PM
The population had good impact in some country like China,the goods of China was in all the countries.All of us know the exact reason for this,the china using their population for the productive purpose.Even though the country economy was based on the communist based,the government satisfy their people by the good economic benefits.The china was the powerful economy next to the United States was the remarkable one.The china total strength is their population,the government used it in correct manner.
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September 30, 2023, 02:39:49 PM
If a large part of the population of a country is lazy then this population will be the biggest concern for that country, that country will have to go through many problems with this population. But if the population of a country is skilled, then their population will emerge as a blessing for that country. Now those who want to go to developed countries with the expectation of a job, if they are skilled, then they do not have much problem in getting a work permit in that country.

So being skilled is very important nowadays, if you don't have the skills then you will have a lot of problems to get a job. Therefore, if the population of a country is skilled and talented, then that country gets a lot of acceptance globally. So countries that currently have high birth rates should make their population a strength by making them skilled.

The two biggest populated countries of the world are China and India. Both are doing good in terms of growth with China leading and India trying to catch up. Moreover there are also cases where country is less populated like Switzerland but still one of most developed country of the world. I think population is not relevant, as long as you have plan to execute in right direction no one can stop you from going up.
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September 30, 2023, 01:42:01 PM
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I realized and have experience that a country will be powerful if it has consumate people with creative mind but its also true that if a country possess larger population but all of them are lazy then such larger population will have no significant for country.
If a large part of the population of a country is lazy then this population will be the biggest concern for that country, that country will have to go through many problems with this population. But if the population of a country is skilled, then their population will emerge as a blessing for that country. Now those who want to go to developed countries with the expectation of a job, if they are skilled, then they do not have much problem in getting a work permit in that country.

So being skilled is very important nowadays, if you don't have the skills then you will have a lot of problems to get a job. Therefore, if the population of a country is skilled and talented, then that country gets a lot of acceptance globally. So countries that currently have high birth rates should make their population a strength by making them skilled.
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September 30, 2023, 01:29:31 PM
How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.

This is the beauty of having a steady growth of population, the government is able to send people abroad to work without worrying about the shortage of manpower.  The country is able to make a profit from these laborers through taxes.

The population needs to be literate in order to see them as a potential help. So country with a booming population should not neglect the literacy of its constituents.
The main problem in this developing nation is not education because many of them are educated. In fact, most of the people that are migrating to Europe and America are professionals. Many of them are health and IT professionals. One of the reasons why people are migrating is because of a lack of employment opportunities. Others are due to security issues and natural disasters. I have spoken to some of my countrymen who left for some developed nations and they informed me that life is not easy in these countries. Some professionals who leave our shores have to work as laborers to survive because they can't find good jobs. If the government creates better employment opportunities and improves the security of the country many people will prefer to remain in their homeland.
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September 30, 2023, 01:10:06 PM
The importance of population to a country is well understood in countries where the birth rate is falling and the number of working people is decreasing. Then those countries have to bring in skilled manpower from other developing countries to keep their country running. In the coming days, countries with high skilled youth population will be able to benefit more economically, as countries with low youth population will have no option but to hire skilled manpower from other countries.

Therefore, all countries will want to hire skilled people in the employment sector, as a result of which the skilled people of a country will make that country important to other countries in various ways. So the population of a country affects many things including the economy of that country.

exactly you can only realize the benefit when you don't have something but if you possess all the things then you cannot realize its advantage same is the case with population that if a country's population is increasing then they consider it as unfavourable but if they don't have much population then they desire to have more people to work for brightening the future of a country.

In some countries where there are lots of people have no extra seats for job and unemployment increases therefore individuals from such countries go towards others countries to earn passive income to make their life.

I realized and have experience that a country will be powerful if it has consumate people with creative mind but its also true that if a country possess larger population but all of them are lazy then such larger population will have no significant for country.
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September 30, 2023, 12:48:13 PM
The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.
I don't know about that part that burden only goes to the women. Although we're living in a society, it's a shared responsibility for both married couples.

But I don't know about much of their culture in terms of being in a family and how it goes but with that problem that many of them don't want to raise a child is also alarming.

In Japanese culture women took on the most responsibility for raising their kids. And I think this fact is true for most of the nation as well though we saw in some countries that husband and wife share this responsibility. Also men don't have the care and patience mentality of women to properly raise a child. Japanese women work as much as men do so it's logical to think this burden can be heavy on them after working equally outside of home.
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September 29, 2023, 12:27:53 PM
Population can be an economic weakness or strength it all depends on how they put those number into good use or how those high number can become a liability to the country.

In a country which have a high number of population and the country happens to be industrious and their citizens are entrepreneurs and they focus mainly on developing their self and don’t depends on what the government is bringing to the table rather they even create job opportunities for them self and make life easier, in situations like that you will see that the population is not in any way causing any damage to the country economy but instead they are going to boast it with their little effort.

But in situations where the more than half of the population is over dependent on what the government will bring to the table and don’t deem it necessary to make an establishment for them self you will see that in such a case those number have turn out to be a liability to the country which will cause damage to the economy strength.
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September 29, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.
Governance in the country is still quite problematic and errors in managing many things may be one of the factors causing poverty to still be rampant. The large population factor could be one of the causes because it is impossible for the state to be able to reach many people for welfare issues. This problem cannot be used as an excuse for leaders because this is guaranteed by law and leaders have an obligation to ensure that poor people have a decent life. Leaders must have a poverty alleviation program by providing employment opportunities and must also provide education that expecting assistance from the government forever will not get them out of trouble.

Poor people cannot be made spoiled by being given life support forever by the government because it will make them lazy to work, on the contrary, it is the government's job to provide access to decent work so that they want to work.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
The government must provide education regularly and consistently, so that people have the skills and train human resources to be better prepared to face life. Expecting foreign workers will not make society itself more independent and on the contrary it will actually increase unemployment more and more.
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September 29, 2023, 08:28:39 AM
A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.

I like your point regarding the people who are getting married, migrating and etc to have a plan or know what the value they can add to the country for its betterment. Although it is true that the government holds a responsibility in this context, we cannot take away the fact that we, as the people of our country we also have to take responsibility of our actions and decisions that results to various effects to others. If we continuously be mindless and disregard the effects of our actions and decisions, like getting married and having children, then no matter how much effort, resources, and opportunities the government provides for us then most of it will be nothing.
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September 29, 2023, 02:34:32 AM
A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.
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