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September 29, 2023, 10:45:39 AM
A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.
Governance in the country is still quite problematic and errors in managing many things may be one of the factors causing poverty to still be rampant. The large population factor could be one of the causes because it is impossible for the state to be able to reach many people for welfare issues. This problem cannot be used as an excuse for leaders because this is guaranteed by law and leaders have an obligation to ensure that poor people have a decent life. Leaders must have a poverty alleviation program by providing employment opportunities and must also provide education that expecting assistance from the government forever will not get them out of trouble.

Poor people cannot be made spoiled by being given life support forever by the government because it will make them lazy to work, on the contrary, it is the government's job to provide access to decent work so that they want to work.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
The government must provide education regularly and consistently, so that people have the skills and train human resources to be better prepared to face life. Expecting foreign workers will not make society itself more independent and on the contrary it will actually increase unemployment more and more.
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September 29, 2023, 09:28:39 AM
A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.

I like your point regarding the people who are getting married, migrating and etc to have a plan or know what the value they can add to the country for its betterment. Although it is true that the government holds a responsibility in this context, we cannot take away the fact that we, as the people of our country we also have to take responsibility of our actions and decisions that results to various effects to others. If we continuously be mindless and disregard the effects of our actions and decisions, like getting married and having children, then no matter how much effort, resources, and opportunities the government provides for us then most of it will be nothing.
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September 29, 2023, 03:34:32 AM
A lot of criteria affect the success of a country seeing how countries like Japan, and  Korea are developed with their small population and countries like China are also developed with their overpopulation. I think it all boils down to the activities of the citizens and not whether they are large or small.

Any good leader would be able to influence people whether they're plenty or little. The education of the masses and the distribution of resources also matter a lot. There are underpopulated countries as well as overpopulated countries that have high poverty rates. Of course, such countries, don't need any additions as their resources are already limited. They just have to work on the people, their education, and their effective productivity.

People who want to add to the pop of little countries through marriage, immigration, and so on should be people who are ready to add value. And another thing about this population thing is that it's very possible to have overpopulation and the labor force is still small. Maybe most of the citizens are children or aged people.
What would one do in a situation like this? Obviously, you can't reduce the population and you also can't increase the population, cause resources are limited already.

So this comes down to the government using efficiently their human resources efficiently.
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September 29, 2023, 02:46:53 AM
Population will not be a source of economic strength or weakness if employment increases there is a risk of population explosion due to the changed situation due to the global corona pandemic. Therefore reproductive health related programs in the country should be strengthened and innovative activities should be included in the ongoing programs. Population growth is closely related to poverty by limiting the country's population growth rate and increasing the education rate and employment opportunities along with poverty alleviation, the large working population of the country should be turned into a public resource and the salary of each employee should be increased in the field of industry.
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September 29, 2023, 02:32:43 AM
I think they will have to pay for more labor and it will definitely be high quality and expensive. I think those in developed countries don't have a lot of population but technologically or progress in many aspects of their country they are always superior even with that small population. So there's no harm in paying more for better quality than paying cheap for mediocre quality. it would even damage the salaries of industrial employees.
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September 29, 2023, 01:00:49 AM
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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.
On the one hand, it can really help the economy if the population has the potential to work and if the population cannot work, of course this becomes a burden for the government because they need to train their people to be able to work so that people's purchasing power increases. I think this can help the country's economic growth.
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September 28, 2023, 06:15:38 PM
How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.

This is the beauty of having a steady growth of population, the government is able to send people abroad to work without worrying about the shortage of manpower.  The country is able to make a profit from these laborers through taxes.

The population needs to be literate in order to see them as a potential help. So country with a booming population should not neglect the literacy of its constituents.
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September 28, 2023, 05:38:13 PM
And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.

This can be because of the environmental conditions in there. I have heard that someplace on the earth people don't have much desire for sexual activity. There can be other reasons as well like for the Japanese.
The desire for intimacy is gone because of their work ethics and that's affecting most people there and that's why they're seeing the problem to keep on rising if nothing has happened to solve it.

The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.
I don't know about that part that burden only goes to the women. Although we're living in a society, it's a shared responsibility for both married couples.

But I don't know about much of their culture in terms of being in a family and how it goes but with that problem that many of them don't want to raise a child is also alarming.
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September 28, 2023, 05:38:03 PM
How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.
The ultimate question is,  will globalization truly unit the world and making it becoming a global village?

This have been the most questions that are frequently asked in many quarter and this question of the impact of. The globalization on the economic development of all nations around the world to cooperate and operate as one continual point is what make Globalization most suit after a developmental tool they have helped the world cooperate and operate within the same framework
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September 28, 2023, 05:04:43 PM
Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.
And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.

This can be because of the environmental conditions in there. I have heard that someplace on the earth people don't have much desire for sexual activity. There can be other reasons as well like for the Japanese. The cost for marriage and raising kids is expensive due to their economic stagnation. Also they have a culture of working equality for men and women and for the baby care part, most of the burden goes to women only. So many women want to avoid marriage as they think there will be too much pressure on them.
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September 28, 2023, 02:27:43 PM
Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.
The importance of population to a country is well understood in countries where the birth rate is falling and the number of working people is decreasing. Then those countries have to bring in skilled manpower from other developing countries to keep their country running. In the coming days, countries with high skilled youth population will be able to benefit more economically, as countries with low youth population will have no option but to hire skilled manpower from other countries.

Therefore, all countries will want to hire skilled people in the employment sector, as a result of which the skilled people of a country will make that country important to other countries in various ways. So the population of a country affects many things including the economy of that country.
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September 28, 2023, 01:45:12 PM
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A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Population greatly influences a country's economy, with the increasing development of technology, developed and developing countries that have a population shortage do not need to worry about labor, they can ask for productive labor from other countries, and also use technology. Apart from the two above, developed and developing countries can also employ women to fill the shortage of slots in each employment sector.

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September 28, 2023, 01:35:35 PM
Even the most populated countries like China, India, and others have already developed, and they are still creating other things that will make their citizens enjoy their way of leaving. To me, overpopulation cannot affect the development of a country if the government in such a country is doing well, but in a situation where the government is corrupt, they don’t care about their citizens.

You can see that even if there are resources available, they don’t care to make use of these resources in such a way that they create job opportunities for the citizens, and I believe job opportunities are one of the ways that we can say a country is developing when everybody is working. And that is what the Chinese government is still doing. With their very large population, are we going to say they did not develop? Nah, mate, so if a government uses available resources in a nation to create other ways of earning, there will be no poverty.
As per the international laws and criteria, both China and India are categorized as developing countries and aren't developed countries, although China's growth rate is way higher and it is more developed as a nation than India and there is also a difference in unemployment and literacy rate between the two countries. If we talk about population or overpopulation, it actually does make a difference when it comes to developing a country and providing the best services and amenities to the citizens.

A country with a popular of 63 Million people will be easier to manage and develop than a country with a population of 1.4 Billion. I know that natural resources and the abilities of the authorities to produce wealth and increase the GDP of the country matter in this but the population does have its effects.
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September 28, 2023, 09:15:34 AM
The fact that nations rich in resources are nevertheless having difficulty providing basic necessities is both funny and depressing. Picture yourself in possession of a gold mine, but without the means or expertise to extract the precious metal. Indeed, it is what these nations are doing. It reminds me of how early Bitcoin critics also failed to recognise the currency's potential. They choose to go the "easy" road of outsourcing rather than investing in their own people. It's a sign of a failing economy if its residents are leaving in droves for other countries in search of better prospects

But relying on outsiders without investing in your own human capital is a dangerous game to play. It may be too late to fix things when these quick cuts eventually fail
That is the reality of what happened and the government failed to carry out its power function in the country, so that even though they have abundant natural products they are unable to make their people prosperous. This is also a form of government that has failed constitutionally and they do not have a good vision at all to help their people. Human resources must be formed and trained in such a way, this aims to enable them to process their own natural products and government encouragement is also an inseparable part because with support from the government the people can more easily access these resources.

It is not too late if the government has the desire to train human resources, because natural products will still be available for some countries that are rich in nature. In-depth study is needed regarding this issue because depending on external work will increasingly make people in their own country lose the opportunity to work.
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September 27, 2023, 09:48:41 PM
How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?
What is happening in those developed nations is that the native populations of the countries are decreasing, while they are importing labor force from foreigner countries, especially from third world countries from Asia and Africa. The Europe like we have known along the centuries and decades doesn't exist anymore. Nowadays globalization and miscegenation have taken place with total strength and it seems the whole world will be prettt default, without any different characteristics among the people from different regions, countries and continents. If it's good or bad will depend on the point of view of each of us. The question is if such changes are functional or disfunctional for the respective societies where changes are taking place.
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September 27, 2023, 07:23:04 PM
Excess population is mostly responsible for the underdevelopment of a country. As overpopulation is a major problem, the government has asked for some measures to be taken in taking children. According to the government, two children are enough.
I do not know if you mean a specific country in your statement, but I would like to answer you in general that countries such as China and India are not included in your conclusion. The increase in population can represent a tremendous force if the state's policy is able to contain the expanding population. Here I mean the ability to provide jobs through adopting free market policies that allow for job creation and increased rates of economic growth.
The population explosion in China is no longer a problem after the authorities were able to contain the matter, so that human energy became the state’s capital.
I would like to remind you that countries that suffer from an inflation in population do not suffer at the same time from population aging and always have a young group capable of more production and achievement.
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September 27, 2023, 06:51:03 PM
Over population can bring harm to a country and in some cases can play an important role for the development of that country. But what we need to emphasize is that the population of a country that is educated and work oriented who acquire technical skills will turn into wealth even if the population of the country is large. But if the population growth alone is not used in production or any other activity then the population growth of the country can have a fatal effect. In China, over population is encouraged. They have been able to transform their population into manpower. More population is considered as a tool for their development.
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September 27, 2023, 06:23:53 PM
Some economists will argue that the reason for the underdevelopment of most countries is because of overpopulation. Hence they are advised to cut down the population through diverse means like birth control and so on. In other countries, economists are also predicting economic woes because of underpopulation. These nations have been advised to increase the birth rate through diverse means. Some nations are giving citizens diverse welfare packages to increase the number of children they have. Some are encouraging immigration to fill the gaps created by the labor shortages.
If we lay our focus on population, we might forget the common issue that is been shared by either the underdeveloped or developed nations here.
It’s almost impossible to have a balanced population in a nation as, nations are sure to take either side but, what is shared in common between either side having economic challenges is, production.

This is where the problem lies as it is the sole thing that boosts the economy of a people and in turn, state.
When a nation isn’t overly producing what it uses or consumes, it becomes an issue to their economic growth as, they tend to do more of import than export.
A producing state or nation is a rich nation and with good governance, it’s easy to have the state thrive but, the reverse is often the case with most leaders having selfish interest in seeking generational wealth and as such, makes life difficult for citizens.
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September 27, 2023, 06:15:57 PM
The population of the world is increasing drastically and if something is not done, it is going to lead to over population which could lead to insufficient supply of food and amenities. We need to take up birth control make sure that we don't keep borning without having any plans for them.

When it came to population control, I believe in what Elon musk has to say about it which is (population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming). While we think the world is getting overpopulated, we're neglecting the fact that the earth is capable of withstanding any population we humans can produced. There are so many lands that aren't occupied yet. We don't need birth control because popular is a economy strength instead of weakness. Looking at countries that's doing well has a lot of contributions from the population they have. Other nations with similar population are beginning to understand the strengthen they have in population like India also improving in their economical strength. Some countries in Africa are also begining to understand the strength they have in their population and with time they'll be able to utilized the man power they have and become a strong economical power nation.

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Population without advancement I'm technology of a country is a total waste of time. There is need for a country to develop there economy just like we are seeing I'm China right now. The economy advancement of China is growing faster and in the nearest future  it might be the large economy in the world with no competition.

This is because they understood the power of population, China embraced their population and also technology advancement but other countries in the third world countries haven't embraced technological advancement like Nigeria that has the population but lack the technological advancement. The world is going digital and if your country isn't adopting technology it will be difficult for them to advance in the digital world. I don't see a reason why population will be a country weakness unless they're still leaving with the mindset of the stone age like most third world countries. If your countries get the technological equipment that the European countries have they'll be better than most countries that we think are world power because they will now have the national resources and the human power to utilize them.
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September 27, 2023, 05:33:50 PM
Manpower is a strength for a country if most of them are not old people and kids. We saw a country with a huge landscape with no manpower. They have the land and resources but no manpower to use it. With proper management and great manpower, a country's economy can be boosted. Vietnam can be a great example of that. Look at Chinese companies working all over the world for infrastructure development and other mega projects.
And this is a problem in Japan now.

Despite that they're a super country and one of the most advanced and high GDP globally, they're suffering this problem. Japanese people, most of them don't want to marry.

They just wanna get stuck into their jobs until they get old and no plans of getting married. AFAIK, it's the same in South Korea as well while the issue there is people find it expensive to raise kids.
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