I'm fine with being wrong on this trivial topic if that is the case. I don't feel being wrong about this would undermine my other comments, although it might distract some from them...
You were making all kinds of points to attempt to normalize the idea about the greatness of hardforks as compared with softforks and attempting to assert that bitcoin had done it a lot in it's history, therefore, no big deal blah blah blah and some more bullshit characterizations.
In other words, the burden is still on you to describe with facts and/or logic concerning how a hardfork today would be a prudent or necessary course of action in bitcoin in spite the conceded fact that a hardfork had occurred one time in the past under a specific set of circumstances that do not seem to be the circumstances of today, right?
I don't recall making any points about "the greatness of hardforks", nor is the "burden still on [me] to describe with facts and/or logic concerning how a hardfork today would be a prudent or necessary course of action". Surely you're aware that some 500 million words of text have already been expended on that topic, with no solution in sight?
Perhaps the burden is on YOU to propose another way forward (other than a hard fork executed in a manner similar to the March 2013 fork, but as a planned event rather than an emergency), now that Segwit has failed.
@Foxpup: troll harder.
I am not proposing anything, therefore I have no burden.
I am saying that seg wit is only a couple of months into its having gone live, so it is quite early to call it a failure. Seg wit has a lot of innovative features, so it has decent chances to be activated either in its current form or maybe somewhere down the road within a year or longer in some variation of its current form.
Regarding a hardfork, whether emergency or not, we do not currently have any emergency, so there seems to be no need to hardfork at the moment, and if an emergency comes, then such a consideration can be accounted at such time.
In other words, if nothing happens and seg wit is not activated, and bitcoin just keeps working like it is with a 1 mb hard limit, that is not an emergency, as far as I can tell, and bitcoin will be fine with that particular set up, even though it seems that activating seg wit would be the better course forward (but of course requires a certain higher level of consensus than it currently seems to be signaling)
At least at this time imho. Befuddling.
I will hedge my investment in